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June 02, 2009 – Comments (22) | RELATED TICKERS: COOL , AZZ , FUN
What company gets media time/founder recognition/Industry kudos etc and yet has done little for shareholders value for a long period of time. I am debating several companies but would like your opinion.
Sirius Satellite Radio. Mel Karmazin is a pompous you-know-what and has driven that company into the ground with his arrogance. SIRI will never turn a profit yet analysts always seem to find "hope" in their quarterly reports. Being the only satellite provider left still doesn't make you the best Mel! This is a bankrupt company masking itself as the deal of a lifetime.
UltraLong
GE.
Oh man, UltraLong, you hit it on the head... I am really tired of hearing about Sirius.
Why GE?
Google. Because I like to illicit responses.
(BWEN) Broadwind.They are a Wind Mill company.. Need I say more?Seriously? These silly Wind Mill farms have to use Natural Gas when there isn't any wind to keep the turbines going... Defeating the entire purpose of "Going Green." They break down and require tons of cash to perform maintenance...They are highly expensive to install (4-6 of them = $1 - 10 million at least).BROADWIND is way overpriced.
Overstock (OSTK). Byrne makes for some funny CNBC moments talking about Sith lords. 10 years of losses. Enemies lists. Cyber attacks.
Repros (RPRX)Twenty years of losses. See Goldmining Experts' article at Seeking Alpha for the full story.
MSFT in my belief is the most overrated company in America in my belief and opinion.
They failed search,travel, isp, music,cable beaten by google, travelocity,aol,etc.This with a huge talented team and the cash for organic or inorganic growth.
This company is a 1 trick pony namely an operating sytem whose popularity is more due to an imposed monopoly in my belief.Is it me or do they continually present the future they will never invent and preventing small companies from inventing it?
If they properly used their resources wouldn't they be at a AAPL's 140 by now? Instead- unless I am reasding it wrong- they have now a mountain of cash now and they are assuming debt?
MY opinion all..J
P.S.It is nice that Gates is giving away a good portion of his personal money through philanthropy.
I've always considered Pfizer to be highly overrated as an investment vehicle. The strongest points in its favor were always its dividends, but then the dividend got cut, and beyond that the stock just doesn't move. I mean it does nothing beyond trade in its extremely limited range, its most successful drugs (Lipitor, Zoloft, Norvasc, Celebrex, Viagra, Lyrica) are all great, but they're also already matured products and due to come off patent protection in the next several years, and their pipeline is looking pretty threadbare and really has looked that way for several years now. I know people like this stock because they consider it 'safe', but sheesh. A little capital appreciation would be nice along with all that safety.
FYI Varchild, I worked in the wind industry for several years and never saw any Natural gas, or any other energy used during calm times, other than the power to keep the computers running. The turbines simply turn lazily or stop, and the energy is simply drawn from another source. Modern turbines are almost as cost efficeint as other traditional sources, not quite, but almost.
I am seing here that the diversified "do-everything" companies are usually the most overrated. It distracts from their core business.i.e GE ,MSFT, pfizer.
SEAN Pfizer imho has no pipeline since the 90's so patents expired. They also finally sold their Listerine and other consumer products to J & J. I think for years their CP lines and the Warner Lambert merger acted as a distraction to their R&D. My two cents anywho
> Why GE?
Well, the question was which company gets a lot of recognition but doesn't provide shareholder value. I think GE has been steadily declining since 2000. While they are in every business book and recognized for their management practices they were unable to adjust to the times. They dabble into everything while not in any business segment they are excellent. Wasn't it their motto - to be N1 or N2 in every segment, otherwise it is not worth it?
If the question was which company is most over-hyped, I would've saif GMCR or PALM.
and they failed "operating sytem"!!!
All of them because most of their growth comes from the destruction of the USD. No inflation = No growth, they are all overrated because so much of their earnings are simply the product of a giant shell game.
Rick's Cabaret because you never get to take home what is on display.
WMT - Walmart - Comes to mind. For all of the attention they get, the stock hasn't done that well over the past 7 - 10 years and I'm not sure shareholders will get a great return going forward.
And add to the fact that Wal Mart doesn't donate a cent of their profits to charity. I'd gladly place them 2nd on the list behind Sirius.
@ catoismymotor LMAO. Whats on display at RICK's could require in the least a shot if you could take them home. I guess the same goes for any public-listed adult entertainment.
@, portefeuille Are you correcting my grammar or are we agreeing? lol
@ BTShine yeah I think the only growth Walmart could do would be inorganic and overseas.They are failing to be agressive in that arena.There is a " not-in-my-backyard" attitude in many small towns in America and big union towns like NYC have no Walmart's within city limits because a lack of compromise.
@UltraLong NOT A cent to charity. Wow ! I wonder if It is since Sam Walton death or always. He seemed a charitable person. I know many Chinese companies do not give to charity because of the tax code.
Nothing wrong with the grammar, we agree, I just thought you, in comment #8 above, did not include their "core competency" (operating system) in the list of their failures.
Google. The only thing they have done right is paid search. Everything else they have attempted to do has ended with mediocre or no results.
People worship the founders like they are gods. Remember theglobe.com? It won't be that bad but I still think they are overrated and overhyped by the media.
portefeuille IMHO yeah there are many better operating sytems that do not require a patch a week and Vista has been a colossal failure.Financially the have had success by convincing individuals and businesses to use PC's and being the only visible OS.This will change soon and computer people love linux or the mac.
mikejw (73.92) Yep unless Android or something else takes off in the next 2-3 years they are starting to go down the MSFT route.
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