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September 23, 2009 – Comments (11) | RELATED TICKERS: SPY , QQQQ , DIA

On CAPS alone today there are about 10 players calling the market top.  In the blogosphere in general the top calls are everywhere.   Of course its many of the same people that have been calling tops the whole way up but a 20 point reversal when we are this far away from the moving averages on the S&P makes it a pretty easy target.  I think I agree with the consensus here even though I usually love to be a contrarian.  The last retail sheep has probably already bought at this point.

Unlike the other internet folks though I can be honest on how wrong I had this market because I have nothing to sell you and no agenda...  I started dumping longs at 850 and got aggressively short at 888.   We went higher at first, then back below 900 and when we broke back above 900 I covered everything and went 100% cash as posted here in my last post in early July.  I thought I was covering the at THE top selling FAZ in the 5’s  (before the 10-1 reverse split) and SRS around $20, not to mention all the put positions…  Thank god I did what I did….Had I been stubborn and NOT covered I would seriously be broke at this point. (with the money I traded with at least)

Brings me back to a saying I have heard many times…  “Its not how many times you are right or wrong its how long you STAY wrong”

Of course I have done the check of how much money I would have made had I held all the longs I bought in the 600’s and 700’s all the way up to 1080, but I take solace in the fact that my 401K is up this year and up over the last 3 and 5 year periods…  Not too many people can say that.   It is because I had the balls to buy this market near the bottom like mad when no one else was buying and I knew NOT to be in during 2007.

Going back in time to when the market was in the high 800’s this spring and EVERYONE was saying to short the market (including yours truly), I remember vividly listening to and interview with Robert Prechter.   One of those Fast Money idiots asked him “Is it time to sell this bear market rally”.

His response was classic….   “As long as you are calling it a bear market rally it is not time to sell it yet, when you start arguing that it is NOT a bear market rally THEN it is time to sell”.

How true did that turn out to be.   As I have been out of this market for months watching it go higher and higher every day I saw more interviews and now if someone says it’s a “bear market rally” they now get laughed at by the same people.

I could go on and I have seen many things I wanted to blog about over the last few months but my life has been very busy recently and I have not gotten around to writing a blog.  

One thing I did want to blog about is how the Stagflationists have the winning ticket in the “What will happen to the market in 2009” sweepstakes.

I remember back in October 2008 when I posted:
“I’m the last man alive in the stagflationist Alamo”

This is what I had to say then:

I realize we are in the middle of the biggest deflationary panic in my lifetime.  I also realize every single stagflationist has had their CAPS score go below zero, mine is right there.
Stagflation is “an economic situation in which inflation and economic stagnation occur simultaneously and remain unchecked for a period of time.”
This is exactly what we are getting in the longer run.

In November I reaffirmed my belief in Stagflation with:

“The speed bump on the road to inflation” and said you needed to buy

SLW at $3.70
AUY at $4.75
GDX at $ 21.35

http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/ViewPost.aspx?bpid=107406&t=01001808419327792238


I also called the bottom in oil at $33.50

http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/ViewPost.aspx?bpid=121461&t=01001808419327792238

Anyway, the point of all of this is I was ranting about stagflation when it was NOT cool to be ranting about stagflation  (late 2008) and stagflation is EXACTLY what we are getting.   Official unemployment near 10% (with real unemployment near 20%) yet even with the economy at a standstill Gold is over $1000 and Oil is in the 70’s.   Plus the dollar gets the crap beat out of it every day and is back near its all time lows.

Of course if the market is to reverse here like it seems it might we are going to get a pullback in oil and gold and the dollar will rise…   But we have seen the lows in these commodities and the high’s in the dollar.  Stagflation is here to stay and although I may have been “the last man alive in the stagflationist Alamo” the Alamo held!

Anyway, I will try to muse about my market and more importantly my economic thoughts on a bi-weekly/monthly basis like have been for the last few years again in the upcoming months.

11 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On September 23, 2009 at 11:01 PM, ChrisGraley (99.72) wrote:

Wow! I posted just about the same thing a few minutes ago!

Stagflation after a deflationary turn in the market it is!

I'm more of a conspiracy nut right now though, so it's good to get valuation from someone that doesn't have the same nutty ideas.

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#2) On September 23, 2009 at 11:13 PM, RVAspeculator (98.67) wrote:

Yea....  it's a common consensus right now and that is the only thing that bothers me like I was saying in my post.

76 on the dollar is important.   If it closed well below that we are probably testing the lows on the dollar and going even higher.   Im thinking 76 will hold but the government could announce a plan any day that would blow everyone out of the water.   Of course that is the way this market has been since 2007...  :)

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#3) On September 24, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Tastylunch (99.66) wrote:

People forget the market is designed to go up and that's it's default direction. The amrket will spin news however it cna bullishly no matter how stupid it sounds.

In order for the market to top there usually needs to be am obvious catalyst.

FWIW i feel your pain

nice post.

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#4) On September 24, 2009 at 12:39 AM, RVAspeculator (98.67) wrote:

Tasty...

Thanks for posting and reading.   Your blogs have been on my favorites list for a few years now.

The pain would have been a lot worse if I had been short from 900 to 1080...   Basically all that is REALLY hurt a bit is my stock ego....  but only a bit...   :)

I agree with your sentiment... up is the default direction over the long term.  Inflation is a powerful force...   in the short run it's not so powerful but over the long run it is what makes bears job so hard.

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#5) On September 24, 2009 at 6:41 AM, OffProfile (47.78) wrote:

One thing I've learned during the last few years is that it's almost impossible to correctly call market bottoms & tops for individual investors, so why would you even want to try. The market isn't rational and will never be. It's as much dominated by greed and sentiment as it is based on real fundementals and macro-economics.

I've have taken some profits in the last 2 weeks, but I will always stay invested for at least 60% of my total investment portfolio, firstly because I believe in their long-term potential and because you need to cover all the bases. Although not everything is in stocks. Besides stocks some is in high-yield, REIT's, corporate debt and Ishares emerging market funds. 

If the market moves up to 11.000 great! If it moves back down to 8500-9000 fine too, good opportunity to buy a few more stocks on the cheap. Then I'll go back to 80%. If we do go back into recession in 2010 or 2011 you'll be happy to still have some cash in reserve and some extra cash we've saved up in the meantime. I wouldn't put much more money to work at these levels unless you stumble upon a great stock which still has good price-to-book valuation.  

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#6) On September 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM, jstegma (99.72) wrote:

Great post.  I think people are getting used to the idea that these market levels are dangerous.  When talking heads are saying "Dow 10,000 by the end of the year" it's just not that compelling to buy in a 9750, especially when the Dow was less than 7000 six months ago. 

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#7) On September 24, 2009 at 10:00 AM, chk999 (99.99) wrote:

Sorry, but there is no Sanity Claus

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#8) On September 24, 2009 at 10:03 AM, outoffocus (24.98) wrote:

Sorry, but there is no Sanity Claus

Wow that was so good it almost sounds like I said it. =P

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#9) On September 24, 2009 at 10:14 AM, outoffocus (24.98) wrote:

Of course if the market is to reverse here like it seems it might we are going to get a pullback in oil and gold and the dollar will rise…   But we have seen the lows in these commodities and the high’s in the dollar.  Stagflation is here to stay and although I may have been “the last man alive in the stagflationist Alamo” the Alamo held!

Its not that you were there only stagflationist.  Its just in the whole inflation/deflation argument, the stagflationists are drowned out.  Some of the other stagflationists here include TMFSinchiruna and Binve.   I shake my head sometimes when I read these inflation/deflation blogs because according to the writer it is either one or the other.  What they fail to realize is that they both have such strong arguments because they are both right.  I was right there with you buying when the commodities bottomed (buying ABX when gold was in the 700s and DBO when oil was in the 30s).  So if you think you are alone in the stagflation theory, look behind you and see you have a small chorus of stagflationists trying to get their say in the loud shouting between inflationists and deflationists.

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#10) On September 24, 2009 at 8:55 PM, RVAspeculator (98.67) wrote:

outoffocus....

I remember you being on the same page as me back then.  I think you are right, the deflationists and hyper-inflationists drown out the truth. 

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#11) On September 27, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Strnj1 (87.62) wrote:

Sanity??

Fear and Greed, gentleman...

The market will continue to go up until they can spin enough fear for those in it to make another exodus...

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