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Current short watchlist

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October 19, 2009 – Comments (11) | RELATED TICKERS: TFSL , MGP , GBE

Here's my current short watchlist, about 400 stocks.  They are ranked 1 to 5 with 5 being the best current short, based on valuation, bankruptcy risk and momentum.  The ones in bold are current real life shorts or puts.  The list is still very much a work in progress. Please add your comments on the stocks below and suggest others.

I included some which may not be shortable right now.  A lot of the latest IPOs for example are really overpriced. Also .OB stocks - now that I have an Interactive Brokers account, I may be able to locate some of the pump and dump shares.

Keeping a list also helps me find puts.  I just enter 50 stocks at a time into the Options Oracle screen and it spits out well-priced put possibilities.

MORTGAGE BANKS
FREDDIE MAC (FRE) 2
FANNIE MAE (FNM) 2


INT’L BANKS
BANK OF AMERICA (BAC) 3
CITIGROUP (C) 2
JP MORGAN (JPM) 2
ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND (RBS) 2
BANK OF IRELAND (IRE) 2
CANADIAN IMPERIAL BANK (CM) 2
CREDIT SUISSE (CS) 2
DEUTSCHE BANK (DB) 2
UBS (UBS) 2


REGIONAL BANKS
*TFS FINANCIAL (TFSL) 4
FIRST HORIZON (FHN) 4
COMERICA (CMA) 4
CAPITOL FEDERAL (CFFN) 4
KEYCORP (KEY) 3
AMES NATIONAL (ATLO) 3
CARDINAL FINANCIAL (CFNL) 3
MERIDIAN INTERSTATE (EBSB) 3
SVB FINANCIAL (SIVB) 3
CLIFTON SAVINGS BANK (CSBK) 3
FIRST FINANCIAL (FFBC) 3
HOMEFED (HOFD) 3
ZIONS BANCORP (ZION) 3
ESSA BANCORP (ESSA) 3
ORITANI FINANCIAL (ORIT) 3
KEARNY FINANCIAL (KRNY) 3
NORTHFIELD BANKCORP (NFBK) 3
HOME BANCSHARES (HOMB) 3
BROOKLINE BANCORP (BRKL) 3
DANVERS BANCORP (DNBK) 3
BENIFICIAL MUTUAL (BNCL) 3
CITY NATIONAL (CYN) 3
CHEMICAL FINANCIAL (CHFC) 3
PRUDENTIAL BANCORP (PBIP) 3
VIEWPOINT FINANCIAL (VPFG) 3
INVESTORS BANCORP (ISBC) 3
PEAPACK GLADSTONE (PGC) 3
ROCKVILLE FINANCIAL (RCKB) 3
SIGNATURE BANK (SBNY) 3
FOX CHASE BANCORP (FXCB) 3
PARK NATIONAL (PRK) 3
K-FED BANCORP (KFED) 3
HEARTLAND FINANCIAL (HTLF) 3
SANDY SPRING (SASR) 3
CAPITAL CITY (CCBG) 3
INDEPENDENT BANK (INDB) 3
PENNS WOODS BANK (PWOD) 3
UNITED SECURITY BANK (USBI) 3
CENTER BANK (CNBC) 3
INTERNATIONAL BANK (IBOC) 3
SC BANK & TRUST (SCBT) 3
S&T BANK (STBA) 3
M&T BANK (MTB) 3
PACWEST BANK (PACW) 3
NORTHWEST BANK (NWSB) 3


IB
ARLINGTON ASSET (AI) 3
GREENHILL (GHL) 3
GOLDMAN SACHS (GS) 3
PIPER JAFFRAY (PJC) 3
FBR CAPITAL MARKETS (FBCM) 3
LAZARD (LAZ) 3
JMP GROUP (JMP) 3
KBW INC (KBW) 3
BROADPOINT GLEACHER SEC (BPSG) 3


PE
GLG PARTNERS (GLG) 5 - Bankruptcy risk?
FORTRESS INVESTMENT GROUP (FIG) 4
OCH-ZIFF CAP MANAGEMENT (OZM) 3
CHIMERA INVESTMENT (CIM) 3
BLACKSTONE (BX) 3


MONEY MGMT
COHEN & STEERS (CNS) 4
GAMCO INVESTORS (GBL) 4
US GLOBAL INVESTORS (GROW) 3
FRANKLIN RESOURCES (BEN) 3
JEFFERIES GROUP (JEF) 3
MSCI (MXB) 3
AFFILIATED MANAGERS (AMG) 3
JANUS CAPITAL (JNS) 3
T. ROWE PRICE (TROW) 3


FINANCIAL SERVICES
FIRST CASH FINANCIAL (FCFS) 3
DOLLAR FINANCIAL (DLLR) 3
AMERICREDIT (ACF) 3
VALUELINE (VALU) 3
MOODY’S (MCO) 3


INSURANCE
ERIE INDEMNITY (ERIE) 4
KANSAS CITY LIFE INSURANCE (KCLI) 4
HARTFORD FINANCIAL (HIG) 3
HILLTOP HOLDINGS (HTH) 3
PRUDENTIAL (PUK/PRU) 3
CITIZENS (CIA) 3
FBL FINANCIAL (FFG) 3
AMERICAN INT’L GROUP (AIG) 2


INSURANCE BROKERAGE
FIDELITY NATIONAL (FNF) 4
ARTHUR J. GALLAGHER (AJG) 4


GUARANTY
MBIA (MBI) 3
AMBAC (ABK) 3
ASSURED GUARANTY (AGO) 2
PRIMUS GUARANTY (PRS) 2


REINSURANCE
EVEREST RE GROUP (RE) 2


COMM REAL ESTATE
*MAGUIRE PROPERTY GROUP (MPG) 4
NEWCASTLE INVESTMENT (NCT) 4
HF INC (HFF) 4
TEJON RANCH (TRC) 4
ASSOCIATED ESTATES (AEC) 4
VORNADO (VNO) 4
REDWOOD TRUST (RWT) 4
ST JOE CO (JOE) 3
BOSTON PROPERTIES (BXP) 3
SIMON PROPERTY GROUP (SPG) 3
TAUBMAN CENTERS (TCO) 3
ALEXANDERS (ALX) 3
FEDERAL REALTY (FRT) 3
EQUITY ONE (EQY) 3
TANGER OUTLETS (SKT) 3
SAUL CENTERS (BFS) 3
CONSOLIDATED TOMOKA (CTO) 3
CHINA HOUSING & LAND (CHLN) 3


RES REAL ESTATE
EQUITY LIFESTYLE PROPERTIES (ELS) 4
SUN COMMUNITIES (SUI) 4


REALTY
*GRUBB ELLIS (GBE) 5
*MOVE.COM (MOVE) 5

CB RICHARD ELLIS (CBG) 4
ZIP REALTY (ZIPR) 4


CONSTRUCTION
*HOVNANIAN (HOV) 5
DR HORTON (DHI) 4
BEAZER HOMES (BZH) 3 - After DHI I don't care that much. I just threw all the homebuilders on here, why not?
STANDARD PACIFIC (SPF) 3
RYLAND (RYL) 3
PULTE HOMES (PHM) 2
TOLL BROTHERS (TOL) 2
LENNAR (LEN) 2
KB HOME (KBH) 2
MERITAGE HOMES (MTH) 2
NVR INC (NVR) 2
BROOKFIELD HOMES (BHS) 2
M/I HOMES (MHO) 2
MDC HOLDINGS (MDC) 2


NATURAL RESOURCES
CADIZ (CDZI) 5
URANIUM ENERGY (UEC) 3
MTN PROVINCE DIAMONDS (MDM) 3
DELTIC TIMBER (DEL) 3
JAMES RIVER COAL (JRCC) 3
ARTESIAN RESOURCES (ARTNA) 3


GOLD
NEVSUN RESOURCES (NSU) 4
ALLIED NEVADA GOLD (ANV) 4
IVANHOE MINING (IVN) 4
AGNICO EAGLE MINING (AEM) 3
GOLDCORP (GG) 3 - I don't really hate gold, just most gold miners.
KEEGAN RESOURCES (KGN) 3
EXETER RESOURCE (XRA) 3
SEABRIDGE GOLD (SA) 3
RANDGOLD (GOLD) 3
INT’L TOWER HILL MINES (THM) 3
IAMGOLD CORP (IAG) 2


ENERGY
ISRAMCO (ISRL) 5
TOREADOR RESOURCES (TRGL) 4
CARRIZO OIL & GAS (CRZO) 3
INTEROIL CORP (IOC) 3
CHENIERE ENERGY (LNG) 3
BOISE (BZ) 3
SYNTROLEUM (SYNM) 3
US ENERGY (USEG) 3
There should be more energy companies on this list.


MANUFACTURING
*AMERICAN AXLE (AXL) 5 - High bankruptcy risk (again).
*ARVIN-MERITOR (ARM) 5 - High bankruptcy risk (again).
TENNECO (TEN) 4
VALHI (VHI) 4 - This valuation is impossible to understand.
ACCO BRANDS (ABD) 3 - Could be a turnaround story.
GOODYEAR TIRE (GT) 3 - Will they see a bump from new Chinese tariffs?
FORD (F) 3
FEDERAL MOGUL (FDML) 3
TRW INC (TRW) 3
DEER CONSUMER PRODUCTS (DEER) 3
OMNOVA (OMN) 3
COOPER TIRE AND RUBBER (CTB) 3


SHIPPING
YRC WORLDWIDE (YRCW) 4
COMMERCIAL VEHICLE GROUP (CVGI) 4
DRYSHIPS (DRYS) 3


BUSINESS SERVICES
PHH CORP (PHH) 4 - Like Enron, they seem to spend most of their energy moving figures around on the financial statements.
STANDARD REGISTER (SR) 4
FRANKLIN COVEY (FC) 4
CARDTRONICS (CATM) 4
SAVVIS (SVVS) 3
UNISYS (UIS) 3
VERIFONE (PAY) 3


TELECOM
VONAGE (VG) 4
ORBCOMM (ORBC) 4
RCN CORP (RCNI) 3
GLOBAL CROSSING (GLBC) 3
IPCS INC (IPCS) 3
AMERICAN TOWER (AMT) 3
SBA COMMUNICATIONS (SBAC) 3
CONSOLIDATED COMMUNICATIONS (CNSL) 3
MEDIACOM COMMUNICATIONS (MCCC) 3
BRITISH TELECOM (BT) 2
VODAFONE (VOD) 2


TECHNOLOGY
*PALM (PALM) 5 - The Pre's first quarter in existence was really embarassing
*MOTOROLA (MOT) 5 - This is a long way from Phil Fisher's company.
*PROGRESS SOFTWARE (PRGS) 4
BROADCOM (BRCM) 4
ACCELRYS (ACCL) 4
RIGHTNOW TECHNOLOGIES (RNOW) 4
ADVENT SOFTWARE (ADVS) 4
X-RITE (XRIT) 4 - S&P said they are high bankruptcy risk.
SYMANTEC (SYMC) 4 - They really need strong sales from Windows 7.  Will hold off until I have a little more visibility.
SALESFORCE.COM (CRM) 4
RAMBUS (RMBS) 3 - Yuck. They are on this list on principle.
ADVANCED MICRO DEVICES (AMD) 3 - Conversely I used to love AMD but now they look very ill.
SEAGATE (STX) 3
TNS INC (TNS) 3
ARM HOLDINGS (ARMH) 3
NETAPP (NTAP) 3
CADENCE DESIGN SYSTEMS (CDNS) 3
ARIBA (ARBA) 3
MAXWELL TECHNOLOGIES (MXWL) 3
SONIC SOLUTIONS (SNIC)  3
NIDEC (NJ) 3
SABA SOFTWARE (SABA) 3
MANHATTAN ASSOC (MANH) 3
ELOYALTY (ELOY) 3
VERISIGN (VRSN) 3
ZEBRA TECHNOLOGIES (ZBRA) 3
TESSERA TECHNOLOGIES (TSRA) 3
SPREADTRUM (SPRD) 3
MAGMA DESIGN AUTOMATION (LAVA) 3
MICROVISION (MVIS) 3
PARKERVISION (PRKR) 3
SUCCESSFACTORS (SFSF) 3
SHUTTERFLY (SFLY) 3
RIVERBED (RVBD) 3
EASTMAN KODAK (EK) 3
UQM TECH (UQM) 3
RASER TECHNOLOGIES (RZ) 3
VALENCE TECHNOLOGY (VLNC) 3
AIXTRON (AIXG) 2
Actually there are more tech companies that should be on here.  Tech valuations are terrible again.


MEDIA
*LODGENET (LNET) 4 - Shorting is a little dangerous so just bought a put.
GRAY TELEVISION (GTN) 4 - I'll wait til DLZ and his friends have had their fun.
LIBERTY MEDIA CAPITAL (LCAPA) 4
RADIO ONE (ROIA/ROIAK) 4
VIRGIN MEDIA (VMED) 4
LIN TV (TVL) 4
MEDIA GENERAL (MEG) 4
VALASSIS COMMUNICATIONS (VCI) 4
CARMIKE CINEMAS (CKEC) 4
SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP (SBGI) 4
CUMULUS MEDIA (CMLS) 4
LEE ENTERPRISES (LEE) 4 - Media has been hot.  Especially LEE.
BELO CORP (BLC) 4
PLAYBOY (PLA) 4
MCCLATCHY (MNI) 3
ENTERCOM COMMUNICATIONS (ETM) 3
SIRIUS XM (SIRI) 3
IMAX CORP (IMAX) 3
NEW YORK TIMES (NYT) 3
BRITISH SKY (BSY) 3
GANNET (GCI) 3
WARNER MUSIC GROUP (WMG) 3
LAMAR ADVERTISING (LAMR) 3
CABLEVISION (CVC) 3
HURRAY! HOLDING (HRAY)3


CONSUMER
*TALBOTS (TLB) 5
*SELECT COMFORT (SCSS) 5 -
TMF used to love this. I really hate it. (See also: Moody's)
*BON-TON STORES (BONT) 5
JONES APPAREL (JNY) 4
OPENTABLE (OPEN) 4
PIER 1 IMPORTS (PIR) 4
RITE AID (RAD) 3 - This could be a genuine turnaround. We will see.
DIEDRICH COFFEE (DDRX) 3
STARBUCKS (SBUX) 3
OVERSTOCK.COM (OSTK) 3
SONIC AUTOMOTIVE (SAH) 3 - Significant bankruptcy risk.
KRISPY KREME DONUTS (KKD) 3
J CREW GROUP (JCG) 3
ZALES CORP (ZLC) 3
MACY’S (M) 3
99 CENT STORE (NDN) 3
LULULEMON ATHLETICA (LULU) 3
WINMARK (WINA) 3
LIZ CLAIBORNE (LIZ) 3
ANN TAYLOR (ANN) 3
NORDSTROM (JWN) 3


EDUCATION
RENAISSANCE LEARNING (RLRN) 4
PLATO LEARNING (TUTR) 4
GRAND CANYON ED (LOPE) 3
CHINA DISTANCE EDUCATION (DL) 3
NEW ORIENTAL EDUCATION (EDU) 2


TRAVEL
*AVIS (CAR) 5

DOLLAR THRIFTY GENERAL (DTG) 5 - I actually dislike CAR even more than DTG. At least DTG has positive book value and occasional profits.
TRAVELZOO (TZOO) 4
HERTZ (HTZ) 4
AMERICAN AIRLINES (AMR) 4 - Significant bankruptcy risk.
UNITED AIRLINES (UAUA) 4
US AIRWAYS (LCC) 4
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES (CAL) 4
DELTA AIRLINES (DAL) 4
CHINA EASTERN AIRLINES (CEA) 4
ORBITZ WORLDWIDE (OWW) 3
EXPEDIA (EXPE) 3


HOTELS
MARRIOT (MAR) 4
CHOICE HOTELS (CHH) 3
HOME INNS & HOTEL MGMT (HMIN) 2 - A red thumb courtesy of TMF Global Gains.


ENTERTAINMENT
*LAS VEGAS SANDS (LVS) 5 - The risk is that a Macau IPO goes well and they will be able to retire a good chunk of debt.
EMPIRE RESORTS (NYNY) 4 - Seems unlikely anyone would be dumb enough to lend to them to build a new casino now, right?
GAYLORD ENT (GET) 4
WYNN RESORTS (WYNN) 3
MGM MIRAGE (MGM) 3
CARNIVAL (CUK) 3
CEDAR FAIR (FUN) 3
GREAT WOLF RESORTS (WOLF) 3
BOYD GAMING (BYD) 3
LIFETIME FITNESS (LTM) 3


HEALTHCARE PROVIDER
EMERITUS CORP (ESC) 4
SUNRISE SENIOR LIVING (SRZ) 3


MEDICAL DATA
HLTH INC (HLTH) 4
WEBMD (WBMD) 4
CLINICAL DATA (CLDA) 3
SXC HEALTH SOLUTIONS (SXCI) 3
MEDICAL DATA (MDSO) 3


NUTRITION/BEAUTY
USANA HEALTH SCIENCES (USNA) 3
WARNER CHILCOTT (WCRX) 3


MEDICAL EQUIPMENT
DEXCOM (DXCM) 4
DELCATH (DCTH) 4


PHARMACEUTICALS
HUMAN GENOME SCIENCES (HGSI) 4
ONCOGENEX (OGXI) 4
TARGACEPT (TRGT) 4
SIGA TECHNOLOGIES (SIGA) 4
OPKO HEALTH (OPK) 4
MEDIVATION (MDVN) 4
MICROMET (MITI) 4
HEMISPHERX BIOPHARMA (HEB) 4
DENDREON (DNDN) 4
PHARMASSET (VRUS) 4
TALECRIS BIOTHERAPEUTICS (TLCR) 4 - A ridiculously expensive IPO of Bayer throw-aways.  Short whenever you can locate shares.
NYMOX PHARMACEUTICAL (NYMX) 4
IDENIX PHARMACEUTICALS (IDIX) 3
LIGAND PHARMACEUTICALS (LGND) 3
SAVIENT PHARMACEUTICALS (SVNT) 3
ARDEA BIOSCIENCES (RDEA) 3
MAP PHARMACEUTICAL (MAPP) 3
SALIX PHARMACUTICALS (SLXP) 3
VANDA PHARMACEUTICALS (VNDA) 3
KERYX PHARMACEUTICALS (KERX) 3
NEUROGESX (NGSX) 3
ACURA PHARMA (ACUR) 3
ENDOLOGIX (ELGX) 3
ONCOTHYREON (ONTY) 3
VALEANT PHARMACEUTICALS (VRX) 3
CEL-SCI (CVM) 3
MERGE HEALTHCARE (MRGE) 4
BIOCRYST PHARMACEUTICALS (BCRX) 4
PROTALIX BIOTHERAPEUTICS (PLX) 4
INCYTE (INCY) 3
NXSTAGE MEDICAL (NXTM) 3
DISCOVERY LABS (DSCO) 3
TRANSITION THERAPEUTICS (TTHI) 3
FACET BIOTECH (FACT) 2
HELICOS BIOSCIENCES (HLCS) 2


OTCS
PETROALGAE (PALG.OB) 5
MODAVOX (MDVX.OB) 4
MAXLIFE FUND (MXFD.OB) 4
SO ACT NETWORK (SOAN.OB) 4
HELIX WIND (HLXW.OB) 4
SEARCHLIGHT MINERALS (SRCH.OB) 4
BIOCORAL (BCRA.OB) 4
AMERIGO ENERGY (AGOE.OB) 4
SCIENTIFIC ENERGY (SCGY.OB) 4
TOMI ENVIRONMENTAL (TOMZ.OB) 4
OMNI BIO PHARMA (OMBP.OB) 4
STRATUS MEDIA (SMDI.OB) 4
BAY COMMERCIAL BANK (BCML.OB) 3
ENERGY COMPOSITES (ENCC.OB)
AMERICAN DG ENERGY (ADGE.OB)
ONCOLYTICS BIOTECH (ONCY.OB)
WINLAND ONLINE SHIPPING (WLOL.OB)
GOLD RESOURCES (GORO.OB) 4
BEARD COMPANY (BRCO.OB) 4
PACIFIC ASIA PETROLEUM (PFAP.OB) 4
PUBLIX SUPER MARKETS (PUSH.OB) 4 - Obviously Publix is a worthwhile company. But the current market cap is $80B and shares have not traded in a couple months. Something strange is going on.
APOLLO SOLAR ENERGY (ASOE.OB) 4
SYNERGY PHARMA (SGYP.OB) 4
BIOTIME (BTIM.OB) 4
BIOSPECIFICS (BSTC.OB) 4
BIOPHARM ASIA (BFAR.OB) 4
NF ENERGY SAVING (NFEC.OB) 4
INTERCLICK (ICLK.OB) 4
FOLSOM LAKE BANK (FOLB.OB) 4
HUGHES TELEMATICS (HUTC.OB) 4
AMIWORLD (AMWO.OB) 4
LIME ENERGY (LIME.OB) 4
CHINA INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION (CHNC.OB) 3
CHINA VALVES TECH (CVVZ.OB) 3
SPECTRUM BRANDS (SPEB.OB) 3
FUND.COM (FNDM.OB) 3
MANAGEMENT ENERGY (MMEX.OB) 3
TECHMEDIA ADVERTISING (TECM.OB) 3
AFFINITY GOLD (AFYG.OB) 3
MINIATURE GOLD (MGOL.OB) 3
STRATUS MEDIA (SMDI.OB) 3


HOLDING CO
VIRNETX (VHC) 4
CHINA HOLDINGS (HOL) 3


RECENT IPOS
TRANSATLANTIC PETROLEUM (TAPFF) 3
A123 SYSTEMS (AONE) 3
VERISK ANALYTICS (VRSK) 3
SELECT MEDICAL HOLDINGS (SEM) 3
RAILAMERICA (RA) 3
PAMPA ENERGIA (PAM) 3
PLATINUM GROUP (PLG) 3
ARTIO GLOBAL INVESTORS (ART) 3
UNITED REFINING ENERGY (URX) 3
PHARMATHENE (PIP) 3


ETFS
3X SMALL CAP (TNA) 4 - This is only for use once a correction starts rolling.
3X TECH (TYH) 4
3X FINANCIAL (FAS) 3
3X DEVELOPED MARKETS (DZK) 3
3X REAL ESTATE (DRN) 3

11 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On October 19, 2009 at 5:54 AM, JakilaTheHun (99.93) wrote:

Great list!

In regards to Publix, it is employee-owned, which is why its shares are probably extremely thinly traded.  

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#2) On October 19, 2009 at 12:06 PM, PaxtorReborn (92.96) wrote:

yeah, I second what jakila said, this is a great list.  I recognize a few dogs from my own short list on here

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#3) On October 19, 2009 at 12:30 PM, bigbearbertha (98.04) wrote:

are the ones you highlight and asterix actually shorts of yours or do you do that bcz you strongly believe in them?

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#4) On October 19, 2009 at 11:41 PM, streetflame (99.82) wrote:

Yes, the bold ones are real life shorts or sometimes pending orders which shouldn't have any difficulty executing.

Among the OTCs, holding co's, recent IPOs here are the ones available on IB:

MODAVOX (MDVX.OB) 5
MANAGEMENT ENERGY (MMEX.OB) 5
GOLD RESOURCES (GORO.OB) 4
BEARD COMPANY (BRCO.OB) 4
SEARCHLIGHT MINERALS (SRCH.OB) 4
ONCOLYTICS BIOTECH (ONCY.OB)
BIOSPECIFICS (BSTC.OB) 4
NF ENERGY SAVING (NFEC.OB) 4
FOLSOM LAKE BANK (FOLB.OB) 4
HUGHES TELEMATICS (HUTC.OB/HUTCW.OB) 4
CHINA VALVES TECH (CVVZ.OB) 3
SPECTRUM BRANDS (SPEB.OB) 3
LIME ENERGY (LIME.OB) 3
INTERCLICK (ICLK.OB) 2

VIRNETX (VHC) 5
CHINA HOLDINGS (HOL) 3

A123 SYSTEMS (AONE) 3
VERISK ANALYTICS (VRSK) 3
SELECT MEDICAL HOLDINGS (SEM) 3
RAILAMERICA (RA) 3
PAMPA ENERGIA (PAM) 3
ARTIO GLOBAL INVESTORS (ART) 3
UNITED REFINING ENERGY (URX) 3
PHARMATHENE (PIP) 3

Also, forgot CIT in the list above - d'oh.  Have also added a few more to real estate.

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#5) On October 19, 2009 at 11:49 PM, streetflame (99.82) wrote:

Turns out TLCR is not that bad, disregard above comment.

Thanks for the info Jakila.  Maybe the info I looked up was wrong and the Publix share price isn't really 80x stable earnings.  I hope so for the employees' sake.

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#6) On October 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM, DownEscalator (98.44) wrote:

I just read through ADGE's annual report from April (they just graduated to AMEX and started trading there).  Would put it at a 4, and if it breaks 5 would short.  Common share value has tripled in the last year while the company itself went from losing a lot of money in '07 to losing even more money in '08.

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#7) On October 20, 2009 at 1:25 PM, PaxtorReborn (92.96) wrote:

What is with *TFS FINANCIAL (TFSL) 4 ?  I think there is something more to this stock (but I'm too lazy to research it).  It never saw a huge dip when the rest of the market crashed.

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#8) On October 20, 2009 at 1:26 PM, PaxtorReborn (92.96) wrote:

I'm also shorting Talbots and I would be shorting BONT if my broker didnt charge such high interest to borrow the shares

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#9) On October 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM, streetflame (99.82) wrote:

Regarding TFSL and some other regional banks, a lot of people are under the impression that banks with low leverage are safe.  So they held up well during the financial crisis.  But obviously no company is 'safe' enough to trade at 2x book and 80x earnings over the long term. (Assuming that earnings are not severely depressed or growing rapidly.)  I believe they also have high inside ownership which can be a factor in higher valuations.

Thanks for the info on ADGE, the last time I checked it is now shortable.

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#10) On October 21, 2009 at 12:42 AM, streetflame (99.82) wrote:

What do you guys think of ABK?  Seems crazy that they have hung on so long with negative equity and gigantic losses.  I guess insurers like this don't face margin/collateral calls?  Will the second wave of ARM resets in 2010 send them to bankruptcy court?

I assume at this price it is probably too risky to short, just curious.

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#11) On October 21, 2009 at 3:01 PM, PaxtorReborn (92.96) wrote:

looks like absolute garbage, but it's trading at such a low price I would be terrified to short it (if I could).  The big boys at GS and other investment houses could easily squeeze the shorts.  I'm thinking thats what happened with TEN today (up 11% on no news)

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