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A letter to a friend (Investing Advice)

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October 24, 2009 – Comments (6) | RELATED TICKERS: DOG , SH

Stephen,

Just got back from the environmental evening event.  I had some thoughts as I sat there.  Be patient, and realize that you're a better man than I (so take the insults light mmk?)

1.  You had no sense of fear when you invested all your hard-earned assets in real estate because everyone said that it was the right thing to do.  Consequently, a generational bubble was what you took part in, and you don't feel bad because you didn't do "anything" "wrong".  You didn't listen to yourself, you didn't reflect, or form an opinion.  You did it because "that is what you have always done".  Consequently you lost a lot of wealth (it could have been much worse!!).

2. This time you feel that you are right.  Intellectually and emotionally You have reflected; you own a business; you have an edge.  You haven't lost money nor made risky bets.  You are sitting pretty, you have an opinion, many think that you are wrong (and most smart individuals feel that you are right -  the market is indeed overvalued and we will double-dip.  You are afraid this time because there's no platitude to rest upon: if you are wrong, you lost cash.  You were wrong because despite your best efforts you were wrong; scary.

It is hard to think of something that others do not.  It is harder still when the thought or belief you have is considered negative or evil.  Do you want to know evil?  Investors who bring massive valuations to companies that bring real evil into this world: oil companies that scar the earth, timber producers that destroy once-on-a-planet rainforests, chemical companies that dump in the rivers, the producers of beauty products that cause cancer in the woman who use them . . .

These things are never called evil, and you'll never be called evil for "supporting" them because "everyone" is, or because "you have to go with the trend" blah blah blah.  Evil is also investing in houses that hurt the land and enact a large cost in terms of the natural resources as well as the unnatural materials required to adhere them.  

In the long and short run, unless you're lucky, you won't ever make money by doing what feels good.  You didn't make crap in the greatest rally of your entire life because you "emotionally" had to "keep assets aside" unless "your business required it".   You were probably positioned as well personally and financially as about 5% of the population and yet you didn't make money because you were afraid.  Ever wonder why it is so hard to make money in stocks, look to the other 95%.

Short the market.  Do you feel that?  The fear that you might actually lose your money if you do it?  That feeling is your only chance to actually make money.  Fight it and you may win.

Lotta love.  Keep it light. 

6 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On October 24, 2009 at 8:00 PM, JMrosenb (85.39) wrote:

Anyone agree/disagree

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#2) On October 24, 2009 at 8:35 PM, streetflame (99.82) wrote:

Has he ever shorted anything before? Ever bought a put? Ever bought an inverse ETF?

If not, I don't think you're doing him any favors.  The strategy may be right but the tactics he applies may be completely wrong.  Unsophisticated investors should take it slow.

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#3) On October 24, 2009 at 8:41 PM, JMrosenb (85.39) wrote:

Not bad words streetflame

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#4) On October 24, 2009 at 11:10 PM, ChrisGraley (99.72) wrote:

I know you want to help him make money, but it sounds like he needs more advice on preserving wealth than taking on new risks.

Taking the time to help a friand gets a rec no matter what, but I wouldn't lead him into something he isn't comfortable with.

A better letter would have been, hey bud since your plan isn't working right now, would you like to hang out with me and see if what I'm doing fits in with your next move?

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#5) On October 24, 2009 at 11:41 PM, rofgile (88.29) wrote:

I think shorting the market is a bad idea.  But, I'm one of those people who believes we are actually seeing an economic recovery.

 

The traditional thinking has not gone well this year.  Anecdotes such as "Sell in May, Go Away" or that "September and October are typically bad months" have failed.

The next truism is that most of the gains typically occur between November to May.  Is that going to be right or wrong?  

This next week will be interesting - the first GDP reports come out next week.  If they are bad - there will be howls of pain!  If they are good.. back to DOW 10,000 for the rest of the year (and there might be howls of pain from the bears).

 -Rof

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#6) On October 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM, JMrosenb (85.39) wrote:

Chris and Rofgile: Thanks for your comments.  Well, my friend thinks he ought to short the market but doesn't have the will!  I tried to bring courage.  Though your prudent advice is much welcome (probably to him as well..)

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