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Demand Another Stress Test!

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November 05, 2009 – Comments (5) | RELATED TICKERS: STR , ESS , ED

Before everyone starts pulling out the pitchforks and firing up the torches, let's see how this might play out.

Harken back to the days of yore, when the Collapse was fresh, the bailout outrage was strong, and the Captains of the Financial Industry were hunted in the streets by packs of angry politicians.  The Average Joe, ears still ringing from the cries of "Yes, We Can!" and head still spinning over executive bonuses, raised a furious cry to their Leaders in DC.

"Save us," they said.  "How bad will it get?  Is my bank safe?  Who is the last Cylon?"

And the Senators and Representatives and the Lobbyists looked up from their conferences and committee meetings and said, "Huh?"  But it wasn't long before they, too, joined the fray.

And thus the Stress Test was born.

Errr...huh?

The stress tests were proposed in order to answer a couple of points (or, for the more cynical amongst us, to appear to answer a couple of points).  First of all, one of the most common question was "If the banking system is so weak, how many banks will go under or need more bailouts?"  Since the populist outcry was torn between "Help me!" and "Don't help them!", the decision was made to bolster the confidence in the banking system by "testing" the ability of the banks to withstand a drawn out economic downturn.

And it worked--pretty much every bank passed.  (Isn't that just peachy?)  Sure, a few had to raise some money, no one "failed."

Among the criteria was unemployment at 8.9% this year (2009), 10.3% next year, economic contraction of about 3.3% overall, and housing falling by 22%.

Various articles describe these variously as "averages," "hitting," and "overall."  I don't know enough about the inner workings of the tests themselves (if someone does, please enlighten me), but it looks like the "kitchen table" issue of numbers

Tomorrow, we get the job numbers for October.  Today's numbers were only about 512,000...best since January of this year.  But the overall unemployment is hitting about 9.8-9.9%...and much worse in some areas.

So, by one interpretation, we have blown the original testing criteria out of the water...and 10% isn't even being argued as unlikely.  To me, that means that it could be much worse.  (Yes, it could be better, but who knows?)

The Criticism

Much ado was made about the nothing of the stress tests, especially here on the Fool.  Blogs were posted, comments made, blood feuds sworn...I think I even saw the Hatfields and McCoys cleaning up their muzzle loaders (guess how far I live from Kentucky?)

After the results were announced, everyone pretty much grumbled and decided that it was all pointless....

...which is my point!

The Deciders who came up with the Stress Test concept pushed it as a good way to check the health of the economy.  They also are still making the Big Decisions about banking laws, budgets, executive pay, and (now) are part owners of two auto manufacturers...or at the very least made all of us part owners.

But I've yet to see anyone go back and question their pronouncement that our banking system is healthy was worth the paper it was written on.  It looks like they missed the boat on how bad unemployment would get; what else did they miss?

The Call to Action

I suggest this:  Demand another Stress Test of all the big banks.  "Too big to fail" hasn't gone away.  over 100 banks have gone under this year.  And unemployment is worse than predicted.  It's possible that our Big Finance will not be able to survive.

There are only two logical responses to this request, as far as I can see:

--"We don't need one."  In which case, we ask, "Why did we need the first one?  Was your criteria wrong?  Is there a turnaround coming up that you haven't told us about?  How do you know the banking system is healthy---weren't you stung before?"

--"You're right; we need another stress test."  Then the questions are "How come you haven't set up another test before now?  What criteria are you going to use?  Really, how confident are you in the banking system?"

With commercial real estate getting shaky, Fannie Mae asking for $15 billion more in help, more banks going under, and unemployment higher than expected (yeah, we'll find out more tomorrow), I think it's a fair request.

Stress Tests were supposed to show us how the banks are doing--isn't that question still up in the air? 

5 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On November 05, 2009 at 7:25 PM, angusthermopylae (35.79) wrote:

Links I forgot to put in the article:

Stress test coverage from earlier this year.

Fannie Mae.

Banks still borrowing from the emergency fund.

OMG, ponies! <--in case this is all too doom and gloom...

 

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#2) On November 05, 2009 at 7:43 PM, rd80 (99.23) wrote:

The stress test last spring was an excersise  to convince the public that something was being done to measure the financial system's stability.

It achieved its purpose (even though it proved nothing).  Investor confidence in banks improved, the masses breathed a sigh of relief.  At best, another stress test would simply reaffirm the results of the first one.  At worst, another test would reignite fears of a financial collapse.

The question of how the banks are doing is definitely still up in the air.  However, there's nothing for the those in power in gov't or the banks  to gain from another test.  Unless that changes,  there won't be one.

 

 

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#3) On November 05, 2009 at 8:05 PM, angusthermopylae (35.79) wrote:

It achieved its purpose (even though it proved nothing).

Exactly on point--it was pushed upon the public as a way to show how healthy the financial system is.

Time to use that logic against them--start asking for them to prove the system is still healthy.

 However, there's nothing for the those in power in gov't or the banks  to gain from another test.

And therein lies the trap.  Either the test was important and is needed even more now, or the test was crap and our Beloved Leaders in Washington find themselves arguing against theirselves.

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#4) On November 05, 2009 at 10:52 PM, russiangambit (99.03) wrote:

I don't know if stress convinced anybody of anything, may be in general public, but definitely not sombedoy involved in the markets,  and nobody here on Fool.

I think, if anything, the test confirmed the status quo to the Wall Street and all other market participants, that as always the banks will be protected and the truth will not be let out, that the powers at the helm will continue with playing the game by the existing rules. And so Wall Street proceeded playing the game, until then they weren't so sure what was going to happen with them.

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#5) On November 06, 2009 at 8:21 AM, lemoneater (75.60) wrote:

Hatfield/McCoy. Lol. My pastor's wife is from Kentucky and she is related to one of the feuding families. I don't remember which! She is a very sweet lady and gentle lady who makes the best mountain cookin'. Yum!

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