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A Hard Risk to Manage (Serious Life Topic)



December 16, 2011 – Comments (31)

When it comes to stock investing, risk is part of the equation which we accept for the potential higher gains, but sometimes in life risk is not a choice so much as an event which happens that we manage as well as we can. (Warning the following doesn't directly relate to investing and the content is very serious, but I consider many of you friends and feel that being open is the best way to move forward in my life.)

Right before Thanksgiving I found out that I had breast cancer. Since then I've taken an odyssey which is familiar to other health consumers--more appointments than I ever had dates in my social calendar and waiting, waiting, waiting, in waiting rooms. I appreciate my husband's support and skill in managing appointments and insurance so I don't have to deal with the hassle.

To be brief, the kind of cancer I have is Stage II triple negative. With chemo and surgery my odds are 70% survival for 10 years. With surgery alone it would be 50%. (The first oncologist we saw didn't really want to discuss odds for different outcomes, but since I'd rather invest than gamble we went with a second oncologist who was willing to check out different scenarios and discuss our concerns in depth.)

The good news is that except for this I'm in excellent health. Also I have insurance that covers much of the treatment costs so it shouldn't wipe out our emergency savings. I do not know the future, but I'm thankful that I've been able to sleep at night. I have friends and family who love me--I didn't know how much until this happened--although I do not plan to take every supplement, etc. they suggest until I judge its relative safety! Ultimately, I have my faith in God not that I will necessarily be cured, but that nothing that happens can separate me from his love. He will never leave me or forsake me.

As I've told everyone I do not want cancer to be my new hobby. It is not who I am. I still prefer investing, literature, gardening and hearing about other people lives.

 Any opinions on VUOCD a really volatile penny stock with a recent reverse split 20 to1? 

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#1) On December 16, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Jbay76 (< 20) wrote:

I would think your better off with, so much upside to be realized.

I wish you all the best in your struggle with cancer.  My nino (God uncle for non spanish speakers) was diagnosed with a brain tumor after 2 seizures led doctors to find this tumor in his brain.  When found, it was the size of a grapefruit.  He was given 6 months to live after his surgery reduced it to teh size of a golf ball.  He has outlived his doctors, and has been living with the remanants of the original tumor, for almost 25 years.  And through it all, he has had an amazing life living to the fullest.  I share this with you so that you can strength from it and also be reminded that anything is possible witht the right attitude.




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#2) On December 16, 2011 at 3:05 PM, ContraryDude (37.41) wrote:

Wow, so sorry to hear that.  Your positive attitude and optimistic approach to life will go a long ways.  I expect to be reading blogs from you 10 years from now and beyond!  Meanwhile, best wishes to you and your husband.  You have a lot of friends here on CAPS, too!

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#3) On December 16, 2011 at 3:17 PM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

J, Very glad that your nino beat the stats. Evidently God still had a purpose for him to be around.

 I will have to check out I'm thankful for many interests I have which provide useful distractions.

ContraryDude, thanks for your good wishes. I want to be like a cactus--able to survive adverse circumstances, but without the prickles :).

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#4) On December 16, 2011 at 3:27 PM, motleyanimal (38.35) wrote:

On VU1 Corp, the new US budget contains a GOP provision that will stay in the bill thwarting the 2007 law, passed during President George W. Bush's administration raising energy efficiency standards. That means that cheap incandescent light bulbs will stay on the market which may affect sales of expensive energy efficient light bulbs.

VUOCD sells its ESL bulbs for $14.98 each.

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#5) On December 16, 2011 at 3:53 PM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

motley, Thanks for that bit of news. Legislation is crucial as it relates to energy. At least we are no longer taxed per window like the original luxury tax. If I had lived during the middle ages I think I would have spent as much time as possible outside in the sunshine.

I have a small position in VUOCD which I plan to hold for the moment. Green energy is a volatile, but interesting sector. Sometimes great products are not commercially viable, but sometimes they become so later.

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#6) On December 16, 2011 at 4:13 PM, chk999 (99.97) wrote:

Major bummer on the diagnosis.


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#7) On December 16, 2011 at 4:22 PM, truthisntstupid (75.53) wrote:


My coversations with you have been so pleasant.  Best wishes!  I know you're a positive person and probably light up the lives of those around you.  

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#8) On December 16, 2011 at 4:41 PM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

chk999, thanks for your good wish. That expresses our feelings exactly!

Truth, right now I'd say that others are lighting up my life including you :) Thanks for your kind words.

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#9) On December 16, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Teacherman1 (< 20) wrote:

May God Bless and keep you always in His loving arms and help you and your family to face whatever comes.

We know He is able to do ALL things.

May your journey Home, be the length He intended it to be when He created you, and may He help you each step of the way.

I just said my first of many prayers for you.

Rest in His love, it is the best place to face anything.

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#10) On December 16, 2011 at 5:42 PM, constructive (99.97) wrote:

Good luck, I think your positive attitude will be a great advantage in cancer as in the rest of life.

I'd say buy some Vu1 lightbulbs instead of buying the stock.  They have negative book value and a tough road to be a viable company.

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#11) On December 16, 2011 at 7:14 PM, rd80 (95.73) wrote:

My prayers, thoughts and best wishes are with you and your family.

We lost my mom to cancer many years ago.  Something she said that I'll never forget was that she would sometimes get angry at God when she prayed.  She figured God was tough and could take it.  She said He never answered why when she got angry, but she always felt better.  I think, just maybe, feeling a little better was how He chose to answer.

Anyway, if it helps to get angry every now and then, go for it. God's tough, He can take it.

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#12) On December 16, 2011 at 8:40 PM, HarryCaraysGhost (66.06) wrote:

Hi Lemon,

I'm so sorry to hear this news. But with your positive attitude... if I were a betting man (which I am BTW) I'd be betting on you to beat this.

About 5yrs ago my Lady was diagnosed with breast cancer (she actually had me do a check after she felt a lump, and I said you need to make an appointment right now)

Since it was caught fairly early she was able to eradicate it with a lumpectomy and radiation.

Since then shes been fine, just gets her yearly mammograms and they come up clear.

All the best to you my friend.

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#13) On December 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM, griderX (97.57) wrote:

Be stong & stay has a funny way of throwing curve balls at you. 

My wife and I have been through a similar path...celebrating every day for 3-years now ;) 

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#14) On December 19, 2011 at 6:53 AM, dbjella (< 20) wrote:

Good luck.  I have read enough of your comments to know that you will be ok.

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#15) On December 19, 2011 at 9:17 AM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

@ #9 Teacherman, thanks for your prayers more than I can say. We just passed our 12th anniversary together. I hope that I'll be around for the 25th, but whatever happens I'm thankful for the time that I've already had.

Megashort, I will have to see if VU 1 lightbulbs are available where I am. They would be a thoughtful gift for friends. I appreciate the investing insight. Thanks for your kind words. 

@ #11, rd80, your comment made me smile. Your mom sounds like she was one spunky lady. Actually if I'm not mistaken the Book of Job and many of the Psalms start with questioning God and end in worship. God is not intimidated by our problems and emotions. He is infinitely bigger than me, but is a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Isaiah 53 means a lot more to me this year.

I'll admit to feeling angry that this had to interfere with our Christmas vacation. Before all this happened both of us had saved up our time so that we could have a long break and perhaps even go camping further south. Now it seems like practically every other day there is something medical to do. Today is chest X-ray and chemo training. (Thursday is when chemo starts.)

HarryCary very glad that your lady is okay. Be sure to give her a hug today. The kindness and care of my husband is a great strength to me. I would say that the support of others greatly increases the odds in my favor :).

GriderX, thanks for sharing your story. Three years and counting :) God bless you both!

@ #14 dbjella, thanks for your kind comment and good wishes.I have benefitted from your knowledge of stocks also :)

Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! We have a live tree up loaded with memories from my husband's childhood and our engagement and marriage. Our cat mistakenly thinks it belongs to him. He sleeps under it every night. 

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#16) On December 31, 2011 at 11:31 AM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

I'm done with the first round of chemo. Had absolutely zero nausea, but a lot of fatigue and aching. One down five more to go.(I will need all the patience and calmness of a buy and hold investor for the long haul.) After four days, I was feeling more myself again and able to move on from Regency Romances which are practically fantasies with their lack of relevance to modern life and its worries. But I'm glad that love and money are not so closely entwined nowadays. I recently started crocheting and then after that starting browsing the blogs and checking out my portifolio.

Just as an amusing side point I had to be sedated for some procedure and my husband noticed I was talking more slowly so he started asking me about our stock portifolio and my alertness went way back up. I wonder what kind of stock advice I would have given under sedation? Don't buy Sears whatever you do! I'm sad to see its demise. Walmart needs to pay attention so it doesn't fall into the same trap in the future.

Happy New Year, everyone! I feel much less worried having finished my first treatment and knowing how many people are praying and caring for me. 



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#17) On December 31, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Starfirenv (< 20) wrote:

I missed your first post and just want you to know I am also on your ''support team' and echo all comments above.

Some very interesting info here-  it's tough to argue with many decades of scientific study (unless you develop, market or prescribe pharmaceuticals or are in the legal/enforcement/incarceration business that depends on this bogus 'War' for funding).

And from PBS-

Maybe one more- must watch..


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#18) On January 16, 2012 at 3:57 PM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

Starfirenv, thanks for the good wishes. I looked at the documentaries. I'm all for drugs helping sick people get/feel well, but not for drugs that make well people sick. My relative's experimentation took her from homecoming queen to Jabba the Hut and thoughts of suicide (We take a different view of recreational drugs--they are no picnic.)

I respect your investing knowledge and am in awe of your gardening skills, but I'm not convinced that pot is the answer for cancer or the economy. 

You can tell I'm feeling better because I'm feisty again! 

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#19) On January 16, 2012 at 7:23 PM, HarryCaraysGhost (66.06) wrote:

Hey Lemon,

Glad your feeling feisty again.

Hope you don't mind but I entered you into my annual contest-

Figured you were busy so I chose your last two picks as the magic #.


p,s @starfireNV- I agree with you even though I have'nt touched the stuff in years.

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#20) On January 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM, TMFLomax (88.73) wrote:


Oh no... I had no idea you were going through this; I was wondering and missing your comments that I always enjoy, but doing a lot of writing and I miss MUCH more than I'd like here in the CAPS blogs. I just now randomly ran a blog post with your name on it and conversation with Teacherman, clicked and saw this news, as well as the reply that your treatment is going well. (Thank goodness, I am so glad!)

I know I'm late here, but just want to extend my positive thoughts and prayers for all to continue to go well for you! As has been said already, you're a very positive person and that goes such a long way in combating something like this. And I can see lots are pulling for you, as I am! That also goes a very long way.

(Love the "whatever you do, don't buy Sears" -- ha! That's beautiful.)



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#21) On January 26, 2012 at 5:13 AM, jgknot (59.80) wrote:

Hey Lemon,

Using Harry's words, Glad your feeling feisty again. 

my prayers. 

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#22) On January 26, 2012 at 10:13 AM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

Alyce, thanks for stopping by. Yes, I need to catch up on reading articles again. :)

I'm so thankful to be doing so well. Right now I feel my age which is wonderful. Right after treatment I feel decades older, but that doesn't last too long!

When I was in college way back then in the early 90's, I worked at Sear's and I was frustrated at how many times we were out of stock with what the customer wanted. Sears no longer "had everything." Its sad to see its demise, but that is what happens when one no longer efficiently provides product, ignores one's loyal demographic, and puts a holly stake through the huge Sear's catalog which used to be a Christmas wish book for wide-eyed children and parents.

jgknot, thanks for your prayers. Feisty is good :)

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#23) On February 10, 2012 at 4:47 PM, TMFLomax (88.73) wrote:

So glad to see you posting again! I hope you are feeling better and better all the time! (I have heard the treatments are REALLY rough, make people feel very ill. Sigh.) I do hope things are better now though!

Have a great weekend!


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#24) On February 14, 2012 at 8:12 AM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

Alyce, Thanks for the good wishes! My 3rd treatment out of 6 was the 2nd--not the best way to spend Groundhog's Day!

I had a good weekend. I felt energetic and inspired enough to make some lasagna for Sunday lunch.

When it comes to symptoms I've gotten off rather easy overall. I've had no nausea, but some fatigue. I describe myself as a night owl in molt :(.  Also I had some neck and shoulder pain the first week which is mostly gone now.

I feel great today and am practically back to my usual self.

Happy Valentines Day! You guys are the BEST!

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#25) On April 03, 2012 at 8:28 AM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

I'm all done with chemo, hallelujah! I was supposed to have my 6th treatment this week, but the Onc. cancelled it. He said the tumor responded well to earlier treatments and since the side effects were getting tougher I could stop. No fooling!

Oh, what a beautiful morning!...

Still have surgery and radiation ahead, but the worst is over!

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#26) On April 03, 2012 at 9:00 AM, rd80 (95.73) wrote:

I wish we could rec comments 'cause #25 is worth at least eleventy billion or so.

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#27) On April 03, 2012 at 9:28 AM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

Thanks, rd80, your support has meant a lot. :)

Happy Easter to you and yours! (Mine will be much better now!)

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#28) On April 03, 2012 at 9:34 AM, ElCid16 (93.85) wrote:

Thrilled to read comment #25; fully agree with comment #26.

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#29) On April 03, 2012 at 3:08 PM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

Thanks, ElCid16 :) I appreciate the good wishes.

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#30) On May 11, 2012 at 12:27 PM, lemoneater (56.98) wrote:

To finish the story, I'm now all done with treatment chemo and surgery both. The pathological report didn't find any cancer left. Hooray! Thanks for all your support and the prayers. Thank God for healing through a caring, capable oncologist and a kind,competent surgeon.

(Probably grapefruit juice also played a role. Citrus is good for you. I have no financial connection to the Florida citrus growers other than being a loyal customer :).

Glad that what could have been a tragedy was a big nuisance instead.

Health to you! Lemoneater


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#31) On May 11, 2012 at 12:34 PM, EnigmaDude (52.85) wrote:

Wow, fantastic!  So great to hear that there is a happy ending to your story!!  I'm going to drink more OJ now...

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