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September 13, 2009 – Comments (31)

   Caution Signs are flashing all around us. Tea parties are being Ignored by the mainstream media. Our Federal government Is paralyzed with Partisan politics... The American People are restless,and Congress continues Its usual SPIN. We are at a crossroads,and the next few months will probably define what AMERICA Is to become. I don't think that THE PEOPLE are done talking yet,I just hope for the sake of this country that OUR Federal Government begins to listen.....    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109628  TS   

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#1) On September 13, 2009 at 7:33 PM, RainierMan (80.73) wrote:

If they're being ignored by the mainstream media, why do I keep reading about them in the mainstream media?

I could have sworn we had elections in November to put many of the current politicians in office. I thought that WAS the people speaking.

I think you're confusing SOME people with THE people.  

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#2) On September 13, 2009 at 7:44 PM, truthisntstupid (85.31) wrote:

Yeah...

Government of all of the people, by some of the people, for some of the people.  Uhhh...I thought I voted against that and we won.

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#3) On September 13, 2009 at 8:02 PM, hdguyrk (< 20) wrote:

Where there's smoke, ther's fire! Wake up! Yeah, your political party may have won the election but we the citizens (all politcal parties) are losing. Over 1000 page stimulus passed without reading. Where's the money? ACORN got 8 billion in entitlements-Ooh wasn't it ACORN that just got busted last week ( don't ignore this-read about it and get educated ).

Now let's push through another 1000 pages for health care reform without reading it! This health care reform has more "pork" for special interest than it has health care reform. Our country is spending money faster than they can print it and people that are stuck to the "we won" attitude will probably be most suprised when everything around them collapses.

 

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#4) On September 13, 2009 at 8:07 PM, topsecret09 (36.35) wrote:

  47% of "WE THE PEOPLE" did NOT vote for Obama....  http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?f=0&year=2008      Many people that voted for Obama are having "BUYERS REMORSE"..........   http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_month_by_month

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#5) On September 13, 2009 at 8:23 PM, topsecret09 (36.35) wrote:

    When Illegals marched In the streets of Los Angeles It made the the FRONT PAGE of EVERY MAJOR NEWSPAPER. When 1 million AMERICAN CITIZENS march In WASHINGTON,because they are so sick of this DO NOTHING congress, It barely makes page 4 or 5 !!!  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11442705/

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#6) On September 13, 2009 at 8:35 PM, topsecret09 (36.35) wrote:

  The media In general has become nothing more than a far left wing liberal cheerleader for the current administration,and If you DARE tell the truth http://www.teamamericapac.org/ You are called a racist,or a right wing nut job.... yada yada yada... When you cannot win a debate on the merits,you just start calling "WE THE PEOPLE" a bunch of names,and spread more lies to cover the lies that have already been told.   If you are truly "HAPPY" with what Is going on In OUR CONGRESS,you DO NOT understand what Is really happening to OUR COUNTRY........  TS

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#7) On September 13, 2009 at 8:48 PM, fredmahnke (< 20) wrote:

Yes they are.  And the gov't is making a mistake  by ignoring them .  The mainstream media has largely ignored them until yesterday.

I wasn't surprised by Axelrods claim that these people didn't represent the true feelings of the majority of americans.  I suspect Madame speaker will say something more insulting before its over.  Funny thing is,almost  EVERYONE I talk to seems to share their views and I'm not aligned with any political  group.

I think the movement is misunderstood by many and I'm frustrated that conservative commentators and polititians have latched on for the ride,  As I see it, this is a nonpartisian anti incumbent platform  aimed at getting new blood elected to serve the needs and desires of middleclass America and shrink the size of the gov;t.  It's not about Obama or healthcare speciifcally as Bush was as bad,

The question is what happens next. I think They are becoming me (albeit in abstentia) unless it gets too right-winged connected, disrespectful or violent,  I'm hoping for change we can all really believe in.  If we unite as a people, we can change our country for the better,  Maybe Ron Paul gets to stick around and maybe he leads it ..  I'd be  up for that,  I don't think the existing political power structure is wise to ignore them (us?) and in fact will not be able to for too much longer

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#8) On September 13, 2009 at 9:36 PM, rofgile (99.31) wrote:

Millions of people spoke out before the Iraq Invasion of 2003 (which is a large part of our current debt and problems) - they were ignored then too.

Millions speaking out has little sway compared to the overwhelming morass of the middle class.  When the middle class gets upset en-mass (think AIG bonuses) - thats when politicians start listening.

I still think the tea parties are a bit lame, as I believe that we are on the correct path economically - with the bank bailouts allowing us to have avoided extreme deflation and bank collapse.  Further, the majority of the country supports health reform - which will result in further spending...

The tea party folk have the problems of:

A) Unclear messages - just a mix of different issues of people

B) No clear spokespeople

C) A viewpoint that disagrees or isn't clear to the middle class majority. 

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#9) On September 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM, alstry (35.28) wrote:

They can only lie and ignore so long....than the money runs out.

Hawaii tax collections worsen in July, August

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#10) On September 13, 2009 at 10:07 PM, rd80 (98.38) wrote:

Millions of people spoke out before the Iraq Invasion of 2003 (which is a large part of our current debt and problems) - they were ignored then too.

Perhaps, but politicians ignore growing public opinion at their peril.  It took a while, but Republicans lost congress in '06 largely because of the war.  They probably would have lost the Whitehouse in '04 had the Democrats had enough brains to run anyone other than Kerry.

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#11) On September 14, 2009 at 2:50 AM, DarkToast (50.66) wrote:

There was no '1 million people' teabagging away. The organizer lied, right to all those protestors faces. 30,000 people signed up, and no more than 70,000 were there.

Don't drink the kool-aid.

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#12) On September 14, 2009 at 8:22 AM, russiangambit (29.29) wrote:

DarkToast, whatever is the number, there is huge grass roots support for it. The middle class is over-taxed  compared to 10-20 years ago, there is not two way about it. Incomes didn't grow, but expenses andt axes grew in the last 10 years, now jobs are disappearing. It is very bleak outthere for the middle calss, they are squeezed from all directions.

It is true that they need to downsize,  and they are doing that somewhat, but not because they want to, because they are forced to and they are angry about it and about the fact that while they are downsizing the goverment is not doing its part.

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#13) On September 14, 2009 at 8:45 AM, cthomas1017 (93.87) wrote:

70,000?  Not in this photo...

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/live912.jpg

I will search for one that shows the mall.  Some reports as high as 2 million, but I suspect that is from a biased source.  I've heard a number of reports from credible sources of 700,000+.

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#14) On September 14, 2009 at 9:06 AM, BMFPitt (74.22) wrote:

Hopefully they'll continue to be ignored.  I don't want this group of Glenn Beck followers, neocons-in-denial, protectionists, birthers, and just plain crackpots to be confused for actual libertarians in the eyes of the public.

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#15) On September 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM, gembree (99.91) wrote:

As a big-government liberal who feels Obama hasn't gone far enough, I really feel sorry for you principled libertarians.  You have the choice between big-government liberalism, big-government conservatism, and recently with Sarah Palin, a weird sort of know-nothing big-government libertarianism, but no one who actually wants to simplify the tax code or reduce the military budget or legalize drugs.

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#16) On September 14, 2009 at 9:58 AM, russiangambit (29.29) wrote:

>  no one who actually wants to simplify the tax code or reduce the military budget or legalize drugs.

I am not sure I get your point? What is with labeling people libertarian, or whatever else? US is one of the most politicized societies I know in a sense that people identify with a certain party. Yet they actually know so little about the real issues behind the 30-sec propaganda clips.

The tea parties are about reducing taxes, whichy would requrie simplyfing the tax code, I guess? Military budget is being reduced, thanks to Democrats. That is the main reason I will always vote democrat vs. republican at a time of wars. Republicans are too cavalier about wars. Ditto for Sara Palin.

As for legalizing drugs , how about the trade - give up guns, then you can have your pot. Having both legal together is asking for trouble.

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#17) On September 14, 2009 at 10:02 AM, lemoneater (81.73) wrote:

Even if it were only 70,000, it would still be newsworthy. #14 I'd be cautious about overgeneralizing the beliefs of such a large group of people. I imagine that there are all different kinds of political beliefs represented. They are Americans exercising their freedom of speech and other Americans are free to listen or not as they choose. Incidentally, every libertarian I've ever met was unique and consequently a challenge to categorize. The strength of the Libertarian party is also its weakness--rugged individualism attempting to forge a unified political voice? Red flag words are an easy way to discount the opinions of others. Disclosure I'm not a Libertarian or a Democrat. I used to consider myself a Republican but right now I feel more like an Independent. I think a lot of ordinary people don't feel like they have been represented for a while.   

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#18) On September 14, 2009 at 10:40 AM, usul2525 (97.40) wrote:

I just got through reading an article that said Obama said He wasn't aware of the March on Washington. Remember when Jimmy Carter wasn't aware of 250,000 Russian Troops entering Afganastan or that the US embassay in Iraq was about to be over run. It took a republican Ronald Regan to get our hostages released and a covert war to get the Russian out of Afganastan.Obama is smart, he is dividing our nation."A House Divide can not Stand"(Abe Lincoln). Racism the only color this is about is Green! Us that speak out are racist or Rednecks or right winged freaks. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. John F. kennedy was more of a conservative that some of the Republican leadership. George Whashington,John Adams and Thomas Jefferson are rolling in thier graves. But I guess we should not pay attention to traitors like them besides thier just some old white guys that founded our country and drafted our constituion. Hey wait a minute wouldn'tseem old white guys that got Obama elected since blacks are only 18% of the population or maybe it was the illegals that elected him because thier here doing the jobs we don't want. WAKE UP AMERICA.At this point we are on the presipus of Civil War caused by hate. I restate Obama is smart it is easy to divide and conquer.

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#19) On September 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, outoffocus (22.89) wrote:

I used to consider myself a Republican but right now I feel more like an Independent. I think a lot of ordinary people don't feel like they have been represented for a while.   

Well said. Because I didnt come of voting again until Bush 2 got into office I can say officially I have always been and independent. Because of my background I was raised as a passive Democrat.  But the older I get and the more corruption I see, I find there is no major political party that even cares to represent me.  So I'm stuck every election voting for the lesser of 2 evils while a bunch of so-called adults in each party bicker and argue like a bunch of elementary school children.  Then when the run out of things to argue about, they watch their respective instigators...ahem...24 hour news networks for more fuel.

Its kind of hard for me to believe in a political system in a country where the majority of people can't even see that they are being played for fools.

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#20) On September 14, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Rasbold (92.32) wrote:

"give up your guns, then you can have your pot"?????

 

You MUST be Russian!

Pot is one of our liberties; guns will protect that liberty.

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#21) On September 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, BMFPitt (74.22) wrote:

The tea parties are about reducing taxes, whichy would requrie simplyfing the tax code, I guess?

The Tea Parties are about whining about taxes and the fact that the party doing the massive deficit increase is different than theirs.  Also about collecting funny pictures of homemade birther signage.

Military budget is being reduced, thanks to Democrats. That is the main reason I will always vote democrat vs. republican at a time of wars.

If by "reduced" you mean "expanded at a slightly less massive pace."

As for legalizing drugs , how about the trade - give up guns, then you can have your pot. Having both legal together is asking for trouble.

Seems pretty illogical.  Pretty much all drug-related gun violence would go away if they were legal.

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#22) On September 14, 2009 at 1:17 PM, 4everlost (29.41) wrote:

gembree

"You have the choice between big-government liberalism, big-government conservatism, and recently with Sarah Palin, a weird sort of know-nothing big-government libertarianism..."

You just identified the primary reasons for the tea parties and the march - the lack of choice for responsible and reasonable politicians that will do right by their constituents.  Most of both parties are corrupt, answering to lobbyists, PACs, big business, special interests and the list goes on.  They want to get reelected and accumulate as much power as their massive egos mandate.  Power means money and there are billion$ at stake.  This is not a problem based on the policies of a given administration or political party - it is systemic.

The question I have for you is: what have you done to support another choice?  Have you taken action or are you a whiner who says "Somebody, do something about this"?

I assume you want to earn and keep as much money as you can - otherwise you wouldn't visit an investing website and read the blogs.  If that is the case you need to think about what happens when the gov't keeps moving the income level that they use determine who is "above the line" and "below the line".   

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#23) On September 14, 2009 at 1:19 PM, rd80 (98.38) wrote:

30,000 people signed up, and no more than 70,000 were there.

I was there and didn't even know there was a signup.  

I've been to Michigan stadium with 105,000 people.  The crowd around the capitol was much, much larger.  

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#24) On September 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM, topsecret09 (36.35) wrote:

   Democrats could lose control of the House Of Representatives,if they continue to marginalize the MAJORITY of the people.....   http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/14/election-trouble-brewing-house-dems/

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#25) On September 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM, russiangambit (29.29) wrote:

> Pot is one of our liberties; guns will protect that liberty.

Sorry, I didn't mean to bring out the gun loving crowd here. You guys have your guns yet your liberties are stolen from right under your nose. Your guns are no more than toys, they don't protect anything other than the sense of self-importance.

 

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#26) On September 14, 2009 at 3:18 PM, topsecret09 (36.35) wrote:

Omama overload ?          http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnews/20090914/ts_usnews/howobamaoverloadthreatenstheeconomy

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#27) On September 14, 2009 at 3:21 PM, topsecret09 (36.35) wrote:

 Its not about you Mr President....    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/09/024518.php

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#28) On September 14, 2009 at 6:49 PM, topsecret09 (36.35) wrote:

  Tea party protesters steamed over Obama's policies ....  http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/14/teaparty.irpt/index.html

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#29) On September 14, 2009 at 9:33 PM, fmahnke (91.12) wrote:

Genbee.

Great refernce to Palination,  I'm curious, what more you would want BHO to do,  Socialize everything. ??

Ron Paul is looking like a better candidate to this prinicpled libretation.  Got 10% in some 08 primaries, seems to know his way around town. understands money ,  Principled, even honest, maybe. It not far fetched,  TICK TOCK

 

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#30) On September 17, 2009 at 1:26 PM, mawnck (< 20) wrote:

One million knuckleheads CAN be wrong.

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#31) On September 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM, caterpillar10 wrote:

yo, chill.... 

It's always been like this      

Berlin    

Vietnam.....levitate the Pentagon     

stop the nukes     

nuke the Iyatolla

jet hits the Pentagon           

Iraq      

'free speech' zones     

build more nukes.....and so on.....        

too name a few....democracy is 'organic' and messy - it is the way of it, the issues rotate but the communications thing is basically the same. That is why fascism appeals to many - it makes things seem like they are actually simple - the clean deco lines of an Albrecht Speer v.s. say uh, our congressional process. It seem like Govt. does not listen because they are dealing w/what was being said last year - they are the tail - we are the dog - or dragon if you like - the head is individual innovators their teams and cohorts - that's the good news - no head / no democracy.       

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