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Abitare, alstry, Dare and many others are Domestic Terrorists... It's official!



March 24, 2009 – Comments (23)

At least according to the state of Missouri.

I'm a pretty big skeptic of conspiracy theories. No, really. I'm not even a truther. So when I came across an item a couple of weeks ago that claimed that the Missouri Information Analysis Center had issued a memo to law enforcement claiming that Ron Paul supporters were considered extremely dangerous domestic terrorists, I refused to believe it. Turns out, it was true. The report was passed to Missouri State Troopers.

MIAC Strategic Report: The Modern Militia Movement

(Read the full report here)

According to the MIAC report, if you oppose any of the following, you could qualify for being profiled as a potential dangerous "militia member":

The United Nations
The New World Order
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition and Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
Illegal Immigration

Under the heading "Political Paraphernalia," the report states, "Militia members most commonly associate with 3rd party political groups. It is not uncommon for militia members to display Constitutional [sic] Party, Campaign for Liberty, or Libertarian material. These members are usually supporters of former Presidential Candidate [sic]: Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr."

Now, I suppose, by MIAC's criteria, if you support all of the above, that makes you a patriotic American. Really? 

Ron Paul, of course, takes the high road.

Sorry guys, but does that mean I'm in the clear because I live overseas. Or does that make me an INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST?  HAHAHHAHAHA!!!! I AM CARLOS THE JACKAL!!!!!!

I'd like to here from the CAPS community on this. Do you oppose ANY of the listed institutions/policies? Did you vote for any of the three candidates listed? Donated to them? Joined the Campaign for Liberty (115,000 members)? Who are the real patriots?

Do you still believe that you are free? 

David in Qatar

23 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On March 24, 2009 at 12:32 AM, TMFLomax (89.34) wrote:

David, I heard these rumblings a few weeks ago too and also tried to dismiss them as crazy rumors/conspiracy theories. It's really not cool. I'll let you guys know if I start getting the distinct impression I'm being watched, haha. (Sorry, but I laugh about all kinds of messed up things, it's some kind of coping mechanism I guess.)

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#2) On March 24, 2009 at 12:40 AM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:


There's a pretty funny post over on Daily Paul about joining a Domestic Terrorists Anonymous group. You might want to form a local chapter :)

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#3) On March 24, 2009 at 12:45 AM, TMFLomax (89.34) wrote:

Ha!!! I'll definitely have to look into that lol

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#4) On March 24, 2009 at 12:47 AM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

The organization ELF, by the way, is the Earth Liberation Front. That's the left wing terror group that Glenn Beck is referring to.


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#5) On March 24, 2009 at 1:45 AM, motleyanimal (38.35) wrote:

ELF is very active in my area. They attack the genetically modified tomatoes at the UC Davis campus and are fond of spray painting their name on SUVs and slashing tires. They also set some newly constructed homes on fire.

Having voted for Ron Paul, I hope I get a decent cell when they come for me. My NRA membership must be good for something.

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#6) On March 24, 2009 at 2:48 AM, SuperPicks (28.46) wrote:

My blog posts and comments must be terrorizing the CAPs community, if not all of America. 

Who are the individual 'heroes' at MIAC Strategic Report who was able to make this classification possible?  After all, humans worked on creating this report, and we must all acknowledge the stellar work of such super human achievements such as these reports.

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#7) On March 24, 2009 at 3:06 AM, KamranatUCLA (29.49) wrote:

ron paul is a doctor. i donated money to his campaign. He believes in U.S CONSTITUTION! I believe in U.S. Constitution too, but at the same time I am Iranian...yes i should really be a terrorist, huh????

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#8) On March 24, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Mary953 (84.42) wrote:

Against illegal immi....  Wait "against illegal"  doesn't matter what you add on.  Does that mean that if you oppose something that is against the law, you are now suspect under the law?  Got to be human, machines can't be that illogical

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#9) On March 24, 2009 at 5:59 AM, DaretothREdux (55.67) wrote:

Well...clearly I voted for Ron Paul...and clearly I oppose the majority of those logically I must be...



Patriots Unite! You have nothing to lose that the government isn't going take anyways!

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#10) On March 24, 2009 at 8:49 AM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

LMAO Dare, this one's for you! I have identified the head of MIAC. He's wearing the retractable helmet.

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#11) On March 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM, XMFSinchiruna (26.56) wrote:

I oppose most of the items in that list, and feel a distinct sense of forboding that my views will find less and less tolerance in the years to come. I donated to and campaigned for Ron Paul, and I am deeply troubled by the trend away from liberty in this country.

I suspect that anyone like me who sees both major political parties as hopelessly mired in corruption and malfeasance will find third-party movements increasingly marginalized by the power structure. When a true patriot can be labeled with that horrid 'T'-word, you know it's time to start discussing another ugly "T"-word... Tyranny.

That being said, I do find it ironic that Glenn Beck would have RP on to discuss this issue when he himself last year insinuated that RP supporters were "T"s.

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#12) On March 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, TMFCHarris (98.70) wrote:

"The New World Order"? Do they mean the professional wrestlers, or the song by Ministry? What if I oppose the wrestlers, but enjoy the song?

On a slightly unrelated note, Posse Comitatus is my rap name.

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#13) On March 24, 2009 at 9:45 AM, TMFLomax (89.34) wrote:

The song by Ministry... LOL, awesome! I should play that today and then it's all over. Ha!

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#14) On March 24, 2009 at 11:02 AM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

Funny, I thought the New World Order and The North American Union didn't exist. So, if I am profiled because I oppose something that doesn't exist, does that make it real?  That's a riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a ham sandwich.


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#15) On March 24, 2009 at 11:18 AM, abitare (30.15) wrote:

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.

Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

Als sie die Juden holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Jude.

Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.

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#16) On March 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM, nzsvz9 (< 20) wrote:


To each their own, and to others do no harm.

TMFSinchiruna seems to miss the point that Glenn Beck is making: Warning Ron Paul from associating fundraising with past terrorism ... in any form. Beck says he is concerned that the fringe in Ron Paul's movement will alienate him from becoming mainstream.

Ron Paul is so right on so many things ... but he has not shown the ability to rally support among the mainstream, like other Politicians. The current party system really constrains him to working from within one of the two shades of evil.

Once we limit political speech (of which a bumper sticker must be considered as such) we are on the road to dictatorship. Perhaps in Missouri anyone caught with these things on their bumpers will be forced to wear a yellow star on their clothing ... or a flag lapel pin or something.

All hail the Obama-nation.

Known by my WiFi node as nzsvz9

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#17) On March 24, 2009 at 12:27 PM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

Translation of Abitare's comment, for those not familiar.

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#18) On March 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:


I always look forward to hearing from you. It is the rare occasion that I find disagreement, but it's possible here that I'm just a wishful thinker. I've noticed a decidedly upward trend in the coverage received by Ron Paul in the mainstream media. At the very least, the major outlets have accepted Ron Paul as a legitimate voice that is worthy of airtime. Now, I'm not sure if that is due to the demand of his devoted followers, and thus a perceived ratings boost, or some other cause. Really can't put my finger on it.

For example, a study of Super Tuesday media coverage showed that Ron Paul (and Mike Huckabee) received 0.0% media coverage during the lead up week, while John McCain received 70%. Nowadays, it seems that Ron Paul is on the news every day.

So, I think he's come a long way since this moment:

Last note on Ron Paul: I am really impressed with the loyalty he inspired in his core constituency. It has translated into growing popularity after the election. I'm not sure (though I'm not pollster historian) if we've ever seen that kind of post-election popularity growth in a presidential candidate.

On to Glenn Beck. I do think GB misses the point on occasion. He seems to be fascinated, in a creepy G. Edward Griffin kind of way, with the notion that Socialism and Socialist intellectuals are driving our country into the ground. Here, I wholeheartedly disagree with him, Rush, and Hannity. 

Obama, Bernanke, the Rockefellers, CFR, JP Morgan, etc... they're not Socialists. They speak populist rhetoric from time to time, and occasionally they throw a bone to their hard core Left constituency, but their actions are fascist and tyrannical.

Criminals? Absolutely. Socialists? Barely.

Of course, proving any of this is problematic, and so we are left to argue over inconsequential points. Maybe that's what they want. (Yes, I'm thinking out loud.)

Regardless, you and I agree on 99.999% of the major problems in this country and that's what is important.

David in Qatar

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#19) On March 24, 2009 at 7:12 PM, TMFLomax (89.34) wrote:

OK, in a related note, I recently ordered a bumpersticker from LPStuff (see? trouble) and they sent an email with some ideas for what to do with my merch. #1: "Proudly wear or display your merchandise. It will spark discussion with both friends and strangers [about whether or not you're a domestic terrorist]."

All right, so I added the part in brackets. Couldn't resist...

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#20) On March 24, 2009 at 11:01 PM, dexion10 (27.07) wrote:

wow - crazy times.


I haven't been this saddened by our gov't since the lynch mob attitude that took us to Iraq instead of Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia

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#21) On March 24, 2009 at 11:31 PM, MasterMind1234 (75.05) wrote:

OMG I'm a domestic terrorist

I better call my mom and tell her.. Haha Many knew this was going to happen we have to wake up... Anyway.. Thanks for the post! Visit me in the camp! ;)

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#22) On March 24, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Bilifuduo (96.51) wrote:

Lol wow these guys must be drunk or something


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#23) On March 28, 2009 at 3:21 AM, checklist34 (98.69) wrote:

we're all living in america, its wonderful, its wonderful, we're all living in america

and screw you negative nancies i'm making big $$ being nothing but long.  nothing but long and hedges (see my blog) and long m2m rebound (see my blog).

bet i'm richer than teh shorts in 3 years.  :)

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