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Alstrynomics Job Cut Analysis



January 07, 2009 – Comments (9)

Job-cut announcements hit a painful 1.2 million over course of 2008

Remember, Alstrynomics seeks the practical application of Economics.  We know that 1.2 million Job-Cuts were announced in 2008.  Generally, these cuts are at major corporations that are end the end of the line of the production or service process.  For everyone of these employees, there are probably at least 5 or 10 others through the vendor support system.

Thus, if 1.2 million cuts were assured, the numbers of jobs cut that were silent was probably 5X to 10X that number.  My estimation is that approximately 10,000,000 American's have lost their jobs in the last couple years.  Add that to the systematic unemployment rate of about 5% and we should be well over 10% unemployment right now.

Then factor in all those people who have had pay cuts, furloughs, and demotions who can no longer meet their monthly subsistence payment obligations.....and we are probably looking at well over 15-20% functional unemployment right now.

My expectation is that these numbers will double or triple over the course of the upcoming year.  You will see the layoff numbers getting larger and larger and spreading into industries not currenly affected.  Remember, each time you see a layoff notice, there is some multiple of others likely also getting released at the same time.

Again, we havn't even factored in the spouses, who were previously not counted as unemployed, who will be forced to reenter the workforce to supplement the family income and now will be considered unemployed until they find a job.

30% unemployment is in the bag if we don't restructure.........or go to war.

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#1) On January 07, 2009 at 9:01 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Economic Report: ADP shows 693,000 jobs lost in December

Just this pace will take the unemployment numbers well into double digits in 2009.  Expect the pace to rise rapidly as businesses and municipalities run out of money.

And think, some "reputable" economists are only forecasting 8-9% unemployment in 2009.  Now you know why Alstrynomics was developed.....the truth can be very profitable:)

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#2) On January 07, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Gemini846 (34.02) wrote:

How do you intend to profit on nasty unemployment data? Berish in general? Buy in select education companies?

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#3) On January 07, 2009 at 9:44 AM, saunafool (< 20) wrote:


I like your blog, but I think we need clarification on your methods.

A couple weeks ago you said unemployment would hit 30%. This week, you invent a new unemployment calculation that only you can do.

My question to you: when you say unemployment will hit 30%, are you suggesting the normal calculation will hit 30% or that the secret Alstry formula will hit 30%?

I agree the official number will continue rising. I'm not sure it will crack 10% this year, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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#4) On January 07, 2009 at 10:06 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


By any generally accepted definition of unemployment, my belief is that we will exceed 30% before this unwinding bottoms out.

By Alstrynomics definition of functional unemployment, we will likely exceed 50%.

US Airways sees a loss for '08; more capacity cuts next year

Expect airlines to continue to contract, lay off workers, and impact a serious cross section of the economy including resorts, hotels, casinos, ect.....

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#5) On January 07, 2009 at 11:07 AM, saunafool (< 20) wrote:

By generally accepted definition, do you mean the U.S. government reported figure (assuming they don't change the current calculation)?

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#6) On January 07, 2009 at 11:25 AM, torque63 (< 20) wrote:

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#7) On January 07, 2009 at 11:34 AM, amassafortune (29.15) wrote:

I don't see 30% unemployment, but this one will be worse than the 74-75 or 81-83 recessions. I expect 10-12% by September of 2009, but states like Michigan could see 15%. 

In Ohio yesterday, the unemployment website and phone systems were both overloaded and crashed due to first-time applications of those laid off in December. Today's ADP 693K announcement indicates Ohio was not the only state with an unemployment surge. 

At Honda Ohio, the Civic line is down to three days per week. This same model eight months ago was cranking at maximum capacity. We are beginning to see second-round cutbacks. I think Alcoa's announcement was their second. Some companies cut on a 90-day rotation to aviod having to give prior notice if more than 10% of the workforce is affected. When a 9-10% cut is announced for a company I own, I assume they wanted to cut deeper in most cases. 

The most telling stat I read yesterday (attributed to AARP by MarketWatch) confirms a trend I have suspected, but for which I had no supporting data. In 2008, 17% of the polled group said they tapped into their 401Ks though they had not planned to. My thought is that a good chunk of "sideline" money that bulls keep citing as a reason for a second-half rebound has been rebudgeted by households for 2009 family expenses. Many Boomers will not reexpose all their assets to the market after the Boomer wake-up call of 2008. Add in the cash that will be consumed by families to survive this downturn, and we'll be lucky if 60% of 2008 liquidations are available to redeploy in the market by the end of 2009.

I don't think we will reach anywhere close to 30% unemployment, but Alstry's alarmist number may still be closer than that of the average economist. 

Obama is looking for "two-fer" infrastructure spending. This is a great idea - money that creates jobs quickly but also has the added benefit of supporting a second national goal. For example, weatherization of homes also reduces dependence on oil or coal and reduces pollution. The situation in Ohio shows why the two-fer vision may not happen. Money will first go to immediately critical projects like upgrading web and phone capacity for the unemployment surge. Any similar evidence of eating the seed corn will not be a good sign for a late-2009 recovery.   

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#8) On January 07, 2009 at 12:25 PM, unvrsldeflation (64.63) wrote:

Any way you look at it there will be huge migrations of people from places where there are no jobs to places where there are rumored to be jobs.

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#9) On January 09, 2009 at 8:29 PM, cbwang888 (25.51) wrote:

US is already in wars...

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