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January 31, 2012 – Comments (6)

 House Republicans are once again talking about weighing down the tax relief bill with riders designed to force the approval of the Keystone XL pipeline and block clean air standards. But, even these lawmakers seem to recognize the public won’t like their political maneuverings.... .... The language Republicans are touting to approve the pipeline was proposed by Representative Lee Terry (R-NE). Republicans describe the Terry language as giving the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission the power to decide whether the Keystone XL should proceed or not.

Let’s be clear. The Terry measure does no such thing.

Instead, the bill mandates approval of the project. It states: “The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission shall, not later than 30 days after receipt of an application thereof, issue a permit for the construction, operation, and maintenance of the oil pipeline. - Frances Beinecke - http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/fbeinecke/keep_the_tax_bill_clean_republ.html 

 

January 24, 2012

Obama’s political calculation to reject the Keystone XL pipeline will cost American jobs and deny America the opportunity to reduce our dependency on foreign oil. - un-named author at The 1600 Fund  http://www.1600fund.com/keystone-xl-decision/ 

  The 1600 Fund is a project of American Crossroads  to elect a new president in 2012 who has the vision, integrity and experience to lead America back to strength, prosperity and national and financial security. The 1600 Fund Founders

The Founders of The 1600 Fund are a dedicated group of patriots who believe deeply in the founding American principles of liberty, limited government and free enterprise – and are committed to restoring those principles by helping to elect a new President of the United States in 2012. Un-named author - About The 1600 Fund -  http://www.1600fund.com/about-the-1600-fund/  

 I am a landowner whose ranch would be crossed by the proposed Keystone XL pipeline. I don’t want a huge pipeline carrying tar sands bitumen across my property but, in the end, I suppose I’ll be forced to give up land for this project. If you were in my shoes, would you want your land condemned to build an industrial project like this through your pastures? - Darrell Garoutte  http://www.northernplains.org/guest-opinion-keystone-xl-permit-denial-gives-transcanada-time-to-do-it-ri   

When Kelso refused to sign TransCanada's contract, she said the land agent threatened to use eminent domain. "She told me [to] either take what they offered or they'd condemn our property and take it anyway." 2012/  http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20120105/landowners-keystone-xl-pipeline-taxes-environment-transcanada-nebraska-texas-montana-kansas-oklahoma-south-dakota?page=3  

 Take for instance, Randy Thompson, a Nebraska landowner featured in The New York Times. NYT reports that if Thompson did not sell his land, Keystone would use the force of eminent domain to secure an easement to his land.  How can a company, not even based in the United States, use the U.S. Federal Government to seize land? - Jonathan Mariano - http://www.triplepundit.com/2011/11/keystone-xl-pipeline-dreams-true-only-eminent-domain/  

Good luck with all that is called Freedom. 

Best wishes,

Steven 

Mr. TERRY (for himself, Mr. UPTON, Mr. WHITFIELD, Mrs. BLACKBURN, Mr. LATTA, Mr. MURPHY of Pennsylvania, Mrs. MCMORRIS RODGERS, Mr. REHBERG, Mr. BERG, Mr. HARRIS, Mr. PITTS, Mr. SULLIVAN, Mr. SHIMKUS, Mr. SCALISE, Mr. OLSON, Mr. GARDNER, Mr. POMPEO, Mr. KINZINGER of Illinois, Mr. BOUSTANY, Mr. GRIMM, Mr. BURGESS, Mr. THORNBERRY, Mr. CARTER, Mr. NEUGEBAUER, Ms. GRANGER, Mr. CULBERSON, Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas, Mr. BARLETTA, Mr. MARINO, Mr. KELLY, Mr. SCHOCK, Mr. LATOURETTE, Mr. MCCOTTER, Mr. DAVIS of Kentucky, Mr. TURNER of Ohio, Mr. PEARCE, Mr. GIBBS, Mr. MILLER of Florida, Mr. FORBES, Mr. MANZULLO, Mr. BARTON of Texas, and Mr. SHUSTER) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committees on Transportation and Infrastructure and Natural Resources, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned -  http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.3548:

 

6 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On January 31, 2012 at 7:57 PM, chk999 (99.97) wrote:

Given that Obama was going to veto the project any way he could, I can't say that I blame them. 

 

I mean afterall, why get hydrocarbons from a friendly country that we share a border with when we can buy hydrocarbons from our enemies and waste money on solar companies that go under? 

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#2) On January 31, 2012 at 8:38 PM, devoish (96.43) wrote:

chk999! 

That was fast! I'm going to start calling you QuickSlick after the speed with which you support all things oil.

This Canadian oil company isn't the "friendly country" part of Canada when it is taking land from Americans.

I would never have suspected you of supporting using eminent domain to give American land to a Canadian company. 

Best wishes,

Steven 

 

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#3) On February 01, 2012 at 9:55 AM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

So we have two criminal enterprises - the Republican Party and the Democrat Party - arguing over how the government should handle the building of a pipeline - which is an economic issue that has nothing to do with government.... and your blog title has what to do with this?  

Apple Sauce, Cronyism, Lectins, Antidisestablishmentarianism

I can string words together too.  Take that, Steven!

(In a free society, property rights trump the need to build pipelines.  Either you go around, or you - the pipeline builder, not the government - pay enough to intice the owner to sell/lease a portion of his land. If he refuses to sell, c'est dommage.)

David in Liberty

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#4) On February 01, 2012 at 10:24 AM, devoish (96.43) wrote:

David in Liberty

My title comes from the text of the 1600 Fund's "about us" webpage where they describe themselves as patriots who believe deeply in the founding American principles of liberty, limited government and free enterprise while at the same time demanding the President of the United States trample on the property rights of landholders in order to build a pipeline.

I wrote the post to point out an example of how the people who are screaming liberty and freedom the loudest, are the ones trying the hardest to take it away through politics and the media.

As we have discussed in the past, I include you in that group. In this case, your true colors show because you try to blame government for the actions of private individuals attempting to gain support for the taking of private property, while claiming to be patriots who believe deeply in the founding American principles of liberty, limited government and free enterprise 

Best wishes,

Steven 

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#5) On February 01, 2012 at 2:03 PM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

My title comes from the text of the 1600 Fund's "about us" webpage where they describe themselves as patriots who believe deeply in the founding American principles of liberty, limited government and free enterprise while at the same time demanding the President of the United States trample on the property rights of landholders in order to build a pipeline.

Fair enough. I've never heard of that group. 

As we have discussed in the past, I include you in that group.

LOL, even though I just explained to you that I am against eminent domain (in all cases, btw) and just pointed out that I don't support the use of force to take land, even for something so wonderful as Black Gold. 

Believe whatever you want Steven, if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.  In the end, all that matters is how you feel about yourself, right? Actual intellectual discussion is a mere sideshow.

In this case, your true colors show because you try to blame government for the actions of private individuals attempting to gain support for the taking of private property,

Yawn...... As I've explained on many occasions, any private individual who attempts to use the government to initiate violence upon others is violating libertarian principles.  To be consistent, however, you must apply this rule to all, not pick sides in political fights in the false two-party system.

while claiming to be patriots

Double yawn.. I've never claimed to be a patriot. Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.  I am unmoved.

We have to go over Liberty for Dummies with you again. Maybe when you get interesting.  You make me miss zloj.

David in Liberty

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#6) On February 03, 2012 at 9:23 AM, devoish (96.43) wrote:

I remember david.

You are nothing more than a politician.

Best wishes,

Steven 

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