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Another Alstry Blog Taken Down???



March 12, 2009 – Comments (49)

Can anyone explain why???  Please.

It had 35 recommendations.

It did not address a single CAPs player.

As far as I could tell, it only got positive comments from the readers.

And Motley Fool allows and encourages the Techno Fariy syndrome to keep spreading???

How many of you guys have ALL of the following symbols picked in your portfolio in the last four months??????


I could probably rattle off at least 10 more....and many of them obscure .OB and Pink Sheet companies.  A number of these players are in the TOP TEN like TRDH, EverydayInvestor, and goldminingXpert. 

For what its worth, there are hundreds, if not thousands of accounts that have these identical symbols in them.  I ran the odds past a friend of mine who is an actuary and he said the liklihood of it being random is pratically impossible.  He didn't give me exact odds but put it at over 1,000,000 to one without working too hard at it.

I I had hundreds or thousands of accounts, I guarantee you at least 7 would be in the top ten just by gaming the system....I have indicated how easy it is to do in the past.

I can understand editing the document, or even giving Alstry the courtesy of editing himself....but it seems like the editors of MF really don't give a damn about your investing investing improvement....just popularity and perception of help.

This is an environment I really don't want to be part of......

Motley Fool started as a website mocking the actively managed mutual fund industry....maybe its time for Alstry to start a website mocking English Majors posing as individuals giving investment advice?????

And a blog about a TARP receiving bank shipping jobs overseas gets pulled????  A public explanation why removal of this blog without notice would be appreciated!!!!!

Now I understand why you guys let an UNSOLICITED comment like this from TRDH stand without a single rebuttle from TMF:

#3) On February 03, 2009 at 9:09 PM, TDRH (99.99) wrote: Alstry, what do you pay per rec for this dribble?   I am for sale.

Up 200 recs this weekend, with 15 recepts for your most recent posts?   Does the number 5000 on yahoo finance mean anything to you?  

You add no value to this site. 

His post was a response to this blog:

There was nothing in the post that was offensive or inaccurate.

But now it has become clear to me that TRDH is simply a TECHNO FAIRY who makes similar picks to Everydayinvestor, goldminingXpert, and TMFElderhead......notice how everyone, and I mean EVERYONE who is not a Techno Fairy selections are not even remotely similar.

And TMF encoruages this sort of TECHNO FAIRY nonsense????  If this is the case, I want nothing to do with it....

Let's see, the Fools got their fame mocking mutual funds, giving off the impression that all should be heard and having an open discourse about investing......something that I applauded....but clearly it has degenerated into something else and more a reflection of the sign of the times....maybe its time for the Institute of Alstrynomics to start its own blog and really teach investors a thing or two about investing....instead of the arbitrary nonsense being regurgetated and encouraged on this site?????

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#1) On March 12, 2009 at 9:05 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Actually 36 recommendations and NOT a SINGLE negative comment from ANY of the CAPS members that responded.

The article was simply an Indian article about JP Morgan outsourcing $400 million of IT work to India and my commentary on how ridiculous I thought that was at a time when unemployment is skyrocketing and banks are receiving hundreds of billions of TARP money.

This was an article that many in America would never see.

Instead of using its Bully Pulpit and voicing outrage, TMF pulls the article......

Now who do you think is looking out for the Average Investor....TMF or The Institute of Alstrynomics????

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#2) On March 12, 2009 at 9:08 AM, bubabar (< 20) wrote:

alstaire sounds good. It was nice knowing you, drop us a line when you get there.

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#3) On March 12, 2009 at 9:14 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Here is the warning I just received AFTER removal of my blog......


The following was removed from CAPS. Please be aware that comments, pitches and blogs posted in CAPS are subject to our Terms of Service and Posting Guidelines:

Posting Guidelines

CAPS Terms of Service:

Motley Fool Terms of Service:

Was anyone offend by the blog?????

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#4) On March 12, 2009 at 9:21 AM, 119862913 wrote:

Alls Try --- I think your blog was removed because of the offensive title with the letter F with a few illegible characters. You should take it with a grain of salt. Perhaps use your alter ego of "I don't give a.......?"

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#5) On March 12, 2009 at 9:34 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

I get that part, but why not take down the offensive word in the title like they did with an earlier blog?????

You think TRDH saying "You Add No Value To This Site" is not offensive??????

You think the fact that there are hundreds of indenties all congrating around the same set of symbols is coincidence that TMF is not aware of?????  And many of those identies are active bloggers who are the EXCLUSIVE identies posting ENTIRE blogs directed squarely at me??????

I am not sure what this Techno Fairy thing is all about, but I have little doubt it will be cleared up soon.....the sad thing is that the majority of bloggers on TMF are techno fairies.



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#6) On March 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, HSPV (< 20) wrote:

Maybe its because you refer to yourself in the third person...

Or that you abuse Caps Lock...

Or that you bastardize the English language...

Or that you accuse anyone that disagrees with you of being part of some deviant cohort...

Or that just because you have been right a few times in the past year, you must be listened to...

Or that you 'ran the odds past' an actuary...

I don't know for sure, just taking a stab at you question


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#7) On March 12, 2009 at 9:49 AM, galtline (38.96) wrote:

I recall having read that blog, and can't remember anything offensive in it (maybe I missed something). 

Perhaps the problem you have is not offensive content, but abrasive content.  I read your blogs all the time (and agree about deflation), yet I want to strangle you sometimes.  You have a PR problem, Alstry. 

Here are my suggestions (for what they are worth): stop attacking other CAPS members (even indirectly...the spector vector and techno fairy stuff comes to mind), stop referring to yourself in third person, stop bragging and acting righteous...we're investors, not dogs that have pooped on the carpet...we don't need our noses rubbed in it.  If you feel that those changes detract from all that is Alstry, then don't do them...but don't continue to act surprised when other people respond negatively to anything that you post.

When it comes down to it, you're writing with the intent that other people will read it and recommend it.  You get nothing else out of it.   As it stands right now, you probably drive away 70% of your potential audience with your approach.  Of the remaining 30%, 10% find you humorous, 10% bedrudgingly agree with you, and the final 10% show up just to "report" offensive/abrasive blogs.   So...why not write it to attract readers? 

Either way, keep posting.  I'll keep reading.

in the begrudging 10%

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#8) On March 12, 2009 at 10:02 AM, EverydayInvestor (< 20) wrote:

Hahahaha. Here's an analogy for you, alstry. I calculate that the odds of me "getting friendly" with any random woman I meet are very, very low. Yet it happens all the time with my wife!?!!? How could it be, it is statistically impossible!!! Oh yeah, there is an underlying cause that leads these different observations to be connected. Same with the stocks here. Everyone with high scores piles on to red thumbs of crappy OTC and pink sheet companies, because they are almost free points. Simple explanation, no conspiracy.

As to me, of those tickers I do not have ratings nor do I follow most of them. And as to why everyone is against you, it is because you have a history of being angry, vulgar, and using ad hominem attacks on those with whom you disagree (remember your comment on "swallowing" from my "So you wanna be a trader" post? Unsurprisingly TMF deleted it). Unfortunately that makes it painful for some of us to read what you right even though you do have interesting and insightful views.

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#9) On March 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM, EverydayInvestor (< 20) wrote:

arrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!  I meant "write", not "right". Slap me with a wet noodle!

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#10) On March 12, 2009 at 10:06 AM, EverydayInvestor (< 20) wrote:


I rate only two, OSTK and PXCE.OB. I guess I don't fit in as part of the techno fairy conspiracy.

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#11) On March 12, 2009 at 10:08 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


Your thoughts are salient. 

However, the Techno Fairy thing is not as silly as it sounds.  There are hundreds, if not thousands of bloggers on Motely Fool that have chosen the exact same group of symbols, and a bunch of them relatively obscure, and trade them in the exact same style no not necessarily same direction.

How many CAPs members do you think have ALL of the above mentioned symbols in their portfolio that are not part of the same blogging complex playing them in the exact same way.  Many of them are active bloggers that claim to be newbies to investing.  What do you think the statisical likelihood that it is some random coincidence?????

Soon maybe I will higher an editor and possibly start my own blog like Techno Fairy EverydayInvestor.....maybe he and a few Fools are the one's behind the Techno Fairy Industrial Complex as that is where 90% of the direct attacks against Alstry come from.....not the general CAPs player.  Why do you think I have so much fun with this.

Underneath it all, this really has not been a conflict between Alstry and the general CAPs player....the conflict is pretty concentrated between me and those with the above mentioned symbols in their account.  I and Fool have known this for some time.

In my opinion, if you think the whole techno fairy group is really some group of random could lead you to bad investment decisions in real life.  If you were looking it was not hard to see.  Just like the current economic situation.  My job, as I see it is to only bring out the objective facts and that upsets some people.  Those who identified realized this whole group of investors is simply a sham.

I know it, Fool knows it, and now the general CAPs community knows it. 

And thanks for your advice, I will take it under consideration.


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#12) On March 12, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Quellist (< 20) wrote:

Really Alstry, enough with the whining.

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#13) On March 12, 2009 at 10:10 AM, imobillc (< 20) wrote:

I agree with you Alstry!

I have had all my posts and commentary removed (erased) without even being notified or anything(never had a chance). Some of my picks had prices that didn't match with the market fluctuation a mistake of a negative 50+ points (MF corrected after my complaint). The worst part was that it all started after I raise the question about a top player in my Blog. One of the TMF players jumped in to defend the TOP player. 

I think they wanted to shut me up... 

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#14) On March 12, 2009 at 10:20 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Please observe how many of the attacks directed personally against me will either be from Techno Fairies with the above mentioned symbols in their account or from recently created identities.

Folks, this ain't too complicated......remember, unlike EverydayInvestor, I don't brag about that fact that I am two standard deviations smarter than the average person....

I am just dumb ole Alstry telling it like it is............


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#15) On March 12, 2009 at 10:29 AM, galtline (38.96) wrote:

What do you think the statisical likelihood that it is some random coincidence?????

In any other setting, probably not great. 

What is the statisical likelihood that players would examine the picks of top players in CAPS and replicate them?  Very likely.  That's what CAPS is about - being able to search on stocks, rate them, and follow players with high scores and high percentages of correct picks.

That's not to say that one person couldn't create several accounts...I just wouldn't draw that conclusion based on similar stock picks. 

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#16) On March 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM, imobillc (< 20) wrote:

Just a bunch of demagogues!

Wanna be English professors, jealous of your popularity....

Ignore them



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#17) On March 12, 2009 at 10:40 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


I would agree with you if it also didn't congregate around the active bloggers that attacked Alstry as well that applied the same style to those symbols.

Look at the top NON Techno Fairy Portfolios in the top will be unable to find any similar correlation.

Further notice how many recommendations the Techno Fairies get on their blogs......often about topics not related to investing.  Whether it is one person, or multiple people it really doesn't is a singular thought pattern just like Alstry is singular and there is nothing close like him.....versus the dozens of active Techno Fairy bloggers that give a different illusion here on CAPs.

For the general CAPs player, this is just something that I think they should be made aware of......

Notice Alstry rarely gets personally attaced by a non Techno Fairy player.....

Remember, TRDH's attack on me was UNSOLICITED.......

and it was only then I responded personally and with my challenge to outscore him.

Since my promise to Jake, I have not directly addressed a Techno Fairy negatively nor do I intend to start now....

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#18) On March 12, 2009 at 10:49 AM, REITDUDE (47.79) wrote:

I was a teenager in the mid/late 90's. 

Back then, "Techno Fairy" had very different connotations.  

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#19) On March 12, 2009 at 10:52 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

But in 2009, you are a Techno Fairy based on the symbols in your portfolio......

Not really a big deal.....just a fact as the term is defined.

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#20) On March 12, 2009 at 11:06 AM, weg915 (< 20) wrote:


What is your take on the retail report?



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#21) On March 12, 2009 at 11:10 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

The market seems to be happy with it.....

I have a number of friends in retail or retail related businesses....they do not seem as happy as the market.

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#22) On March 12, 2009 at 11:21 AM, weg915 (< 20) wrote:

I agree.  The numbers are a surprise to me - I wonder if people are using money for stuff instead of mortgages, especially if they are already in trouble.  


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#23) On March 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM, jstegma (28.42) wrote:


Maybe you should just spend a little more time writing blogs and coming up with conspiracy theories.  I think the problem is that you just aren't willing or able to put enough time into this.  If you just work a little harder on it, you'll figure out all the grand conspiracies of CAPS.

For example, EverydayInvestor might not just be a "Techno Fairy" (whatever that means), but he might actually be a former Russian spy hired by TMF to hunt down the man known as "alstry" and kill him before he's able to spout out all of the world's secrets and dominate on CAPS. 

And what does TDRH stand for anyway?  I don't know, but I'll bet if you think about it long enough you can come up with something sinister and paranoid.

I think the problem is that sometimes you get distracted from focusing enough on CAPS blogging.  Focus, man, focus!  Put in those long hours if that's what it takes.  It's all worth it.


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#24) On March 12, 2009 at 11:31 AM, RHaganC (< 20) wrote:

I'm here to play with money I'm too chicken to risk and test my exposure to randomness in markets.

I think we all need to lighten up.  there is no REAL $ involved here, so why all the emotions?  Why care so much?

I still follow you Alstry, just for the sheer delight!  My shots are not at you personally, but th overall mood of something I don't think should be taken as seriuosly.  Doesn't discount your complaint, just too much emotion (at least precieved to be in the writing) about it.

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#25) On March 12, 2009 at 11:34 AM, EverydayInvestor (< 20) wrote:

"remember, unlike EverydayInvestor, I don't brag about that fact that I am two standard deviations smarter than the average person...."

lol, actualy 3 SDs and when I took the test I was being overdosed with lithium while in the mental hospital ...

Now that, my dear sir, is bragging!

You still haven't convincingly argued why I'm a techno fairy.

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#26) On March 12, 2009 at 11:51 AM, clanza875 (34.72) wrote:

Ok really! Who really cares what your caps score is? Its all about making money, period! Piling red thumbs on to OTC junk stocks mean nothing. Everybody get over your caps egos and lets get back to some meaningful conversation.

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#27) On March 12, 2009 at 11:51 AM, jstegma (28.42) wrote:

Everyday - I'll put his argument forth for him. 

You're a techno fairy because you are ahead of him in the rankings.

So there!  See?  You're a "techno fairy".

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#28) On March 12, 2009 at 11:54 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

I am not here convince you of anything.....

There is just a group of CAPs players that blog at lot and get a bunch of recommendations that play the same set of obscure symbols that are not widely followed by the market in the same rapid fire manner.

Clearly that is not a random event.  I call those people that play those symbols and trade a lot Techno is not really a prejoritive term anymore than Doom and Gloomer which I get called all the time and can understand why......

I just wanted to make it clear to CAPS players that the vast majority, and I mean the VAST majority of players that attack Alstry are IDENTIES that have either been created very recently or are Techno Fairies.

Now that I know that you are ACTUALLY three standard deviations smarter than the average will be a lot more fun surpassing your score as well.

I guess the real division is now Alstry against the Techno Fairies.

Remember, at the end of the day, my game is on the is yours....congratulations on a well earned position.

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#29) On March 12, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Hudarios (< 20) wrote:

Hodarius has an idea: The next time they take down one of alstry's blogs for using a profane word, alstry should complain about it with a new post with profanity in the title, and start an infinite loop of complain-delete-complain-delete...  What a great use of time that would be.

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#30) On March 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM, DarkToast (32.16) wrote:

Your post died of punctuation mark overdose.

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#31) On March 12, 2009 at 12:28 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

I know Dark Toast,

But do you know how many blogs I am going to have to write to get back 36 recommendations.....

I don't have dozens of Techno Fairy identities to give me a recommendation every time I write a blog......oh I forgot, I really don't care do I??????

Heck, if we are not going to let a blogger have a hissy fit about taking our Tarp money and taking away American jobs and giving it to workers overseas.....our nation is in serious be it.

We would be better off paying the American workers that are UNEMPLOYED the same wage we are paying the Indian workers.........right now they are making nothing.

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#32) On March 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM, givmeabreak (29.05) wrote:

AL, you need to check this out. Abitare too if he's reading.

Goodvibe consistently makes the error of saying 'believes' instead of 'beliefs'


GoodVibe Chart Of The Day - The bears are setting up the BBQ tablesFebruary 02, 2009 – Comments (16) | RELATED TICKERS: TLT , GLD , SLV

After more than a year being justifiably in the bears’ camp, I switched to the bulls’ camp on Nov. 20, 2008 (solely based on technical indicators). Since then I had a strong believe that this low will hold. Fortunately I developed through the years the ability to trade the charts not my believes.


#41) On February 19, 2009 at 9:15 AM, GoodVibe4Ever (99.82) wrote:

As I always say, successful trader must trade the chart and not his/her believes.

So, then i realize I've seen other people use this same error replying to GV's posts. Using a caps search I quickly found:

#85) On February 19, 2009 at 7:58 PM, PrestonCheek (73.87) wrote:

GV, hand raised here. I'm glad I can say I was there from the start. You deserve everything you recieved, you never once backed up from your believes, you tried to help as many people as you could.

Hmmm, what are the chances two people could make that same mistake?...




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#33) On March 12, 2009 at 12:47 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Now you are beginning to catch on to the Techno Fairy Industrial Complex......

No big deal really, as long as you appreciate its existance and view it as one....

If there were 50 Alstry type investors or bloggers I would expect the same reaction from you....

Just check out how many bloggers have the above mentioned symbols and how many of them blog in the same or similar fashion....

it ain't hard and you don't need two or three standard deviations of intelligence to figure it out....

FYI....I have averaged into more ETF today with additional red guess is that I am early.....which is a consistent trait thoughout many aspects of my life...

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#34) On March 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM, weg915 (< 20) wrote:


Since I've read your posts but never gave rec's ( I should have) - I am giving you back your 36.  


By the way - My 11yr old and I had a very lively discussion inspired by Gerald Celente - How do you think outside the box - there is no box.



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#35) On March 12, 2009 at 1:45 PM, JGus (28.01) wrote:


I recently had a number of blogs deleted, but I didn't lose any of the rec's that had been given for them. My total rec # did not change at all even though those blogs had been removed. 


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#36) On March 12, 2009 at 2:20 PM, murugan2 (23.72) wrote:


Intrigued by the idea of gaming the system.  But doesnt it in effect dilute everyone's score if they all make the same picks?  Isnt the CAPS rating a relative measure against all the other players?   If you are going to insist on using "Techno Fairy" can I use "Fun Dement Hole?"

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#37) On March 12, 2009 at 2:55 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


As I have indicated, there are hundreds of Techno Fairies playing in all different directions.  At any given time, those playing in the right direction are doing great and those playing in the wrong direction are doing terrible.

Those that do terrible long enough generally quit and start a new identity.  Those doing well keep going.  Its not too hard.

Just as someone noted on an earlier blog, if you create enough indenties counter to each other, in a pretty short period of time, a bunch of them are going to be rated 99 or better.

And please feel free to use whatever name you want.  I promise not to attack you personally.  I am simply pointing out the existence and nature of the Techno Fairies who seem to blow in the wind....until their score gets low enough and quit and start again.


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#38) On March 12, 2009 at 2:58 PM, DarkToast (32.16) wrote:

I actually liked your article on outsourcing more than the employment stuff you usually post. Here is rec for you.

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#39) On March 12, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Rehydrogenated (33.37) wrote:

Yeah I totally agree with you too. Most of my posts get 40-80 Recs easy, but then TMF takes them down without telling me. I think its because they are afraid of my power.

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#40) On March 12, 2009 at 3:09 PM, RonChapmanJr (30.15) wrote:

The inappropriate language in the title and in the body of the blog is probably why it got deleted.  Using different symbols does not make a profane word acceptable.  It did not have any negative comments because many of the people that do not like your online personality no longer comment, they just complain.  Post a similar blog without the profanity and it'll probably be fine.

As your score has gone up you have become more abrasive which has led more people to complain about your blogs and comments. 


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#41) On March 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Thanks for your constructive comments Ron....

In the future I will refrain from using express or implied profane words as our collective oral, oflcatory, and genitle orafices are repeatedly getting impaled by bankers and certain members of our government.

Please keep collecting dry goods and least everybody will know where to go when all hell breaks loose.


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#42) On March 12, 2009 at 3:48 PM, HSPV (< 20) wrote:

The best part about this post and all the comments is that alstry just says the same thing over and over again, then someone agrees and alstry feels justified to say it again. 

I went back to some of alstry's early posts, from more than a year ago, and do you know what i found? Rational, well written commentary about the housing market... Then, the stock market began to take a turn for the worse and alstry's post began to mutate into the self-possessed hateful paranoid ramblings that they are today.

What happened man? If I had found your posts a year ago, I might have saved a lot of money from going down the tubes. Instead, I stumble on them recently and can't seem to get past all of your petty BS.

Do us all a favor and get back on point... (you would get a lot more respect there)


PS. Common misspellings of certain words is actually quite normal for ESL people. Often times, it is more indicative of where that person is from, rather than being some kind of dual-identity created just to mess with your head... 

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#43) On March 12, 2009 at 3:51 PM, RonChapmanJr (30.15) wrote:

1. Sure, anytime I can help out a buddy...  You might even have been OK if the title hadn't been problematic.  People can avoid the content of your blogs, but not their titles.

2. I never said anything about collecting gold.  Go to TMF Sinch's place for that.

3. I wouldn't recommend trying to take anything from my house.  Actually since you've stated that everyone should have 1-2 years of expenses in cash, perhaps your place would be a nice place to visit when problems arise.  

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#44) On March 12, 2009 at 3:53 PM, jszoke01 (26.76) wrote:

Good think you spelled the words between "and" and "are" in the above blog post #44 incorrectly... I smelled a deep 6 coming from the TMF for "abusive language"....

Unless you of course meant "Gentile Oracle", but I'm thinking not.

By the way, I just saw a ReMax commercial on CNBC which had two people watching someone kick himself on the beach, to which person #1 said to person #2, "There's going to be a whole lot of people kicking themselves in this market for not buying a house".

Hah!  I love the real estate marketing machine!  I'm off to look for my new house in San Diego!

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#45) On March 12, 2009 at 3:56 PM, jszoke01 (26.76) wrote:

WHOA! I can't believe how fast that post was removed!  FYI - I'm referring to post #44, which wasn't mine to begin with, but a post that was removed (authored by Alstry).

That's like superman censorship!  Welcome to China!

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#46) On March 12, 2009 at 4:22 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


I have to be honest with you, I have absolutely no idea why the last comment #44 was profane language express or implied, no attacking personally....that one escapes me unless someone misinterpreted or misconstured what I indicated.

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#47) On March 12, 2009 at 4:36 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


That is not what I ment.......for just a second, and only a second, I am going to be sincere with you......

For one, although we jab a lot, I don't consider you a Techno Fairy based on your stock selections and style of investing....very different than TFIC, Techno Fairy Industrial Complex and you have earned every drop of your score without quitting.

Second, I jab your Harvard degree becasue everyone knows it is a significant accomplishment and by jabbing it I only bring further light to it....sorta the same I do for Jake and his Stanford degree....but I still generally enjoy drinking with Stanford grads more than Harvard....but that is not relevant to the point.

Third, my point about hoarding is a actually significant one and I will probably do a blog on it later......but if in fact things get as bad as many are implying, and let's all hope they don't, then safety will be such a profound issue, that short of a machine gun with unlimited bullets to protect yourself and family.....I am not sure hoarding anything, including cash will be much of a benefit for any length of time.

OK times up....let's get back to ole times now.....

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#48) On March 12, 2009 at 5:00 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

44 is now 41....that was looks like it wasn't censored after all....and after reading it.....I can see Fairies...MF is not China.....yet

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#49) On March 13, 2009 at 1:29 AM, SolarisKing (< 20) wrote:

you F#@king rock alstry.

 Where do you find the time? Anyway, i know your right about some of the dual identity stuff, and congatulations on your score.

I think the bottom for big oil and energy will come earlier than the bottom of discretionaries, and that if oil drops below $40 again I will start to channel buy.

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