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June 13, 2010 – Comments (11)

I didn't like reading this piece about possibly damage below the seafloor...

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#1) On June 13, 2010 at 11:26 AM, imobillc (< 20) wrote:

Wow.... another great post... hope that a lot of people get to see it...

Mars 

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#2) On June 13, 2010 at 11:33 AM, cthomas1017 (77.02) wrote:

The word above that jumped off the page at me was "possibly".

So far, there's been nary a case of demonstrated substantial damage to coastland connected directly to the spill.  (Sure an isolated incident here.  What I'm talking about is the black beaches and massive dead fish & birds that was predicted just a couple of weeks ago.)  Lots of media hype and paranoia.  Sure, we see lots of sob stories about businesses going broke and forecasts of oil entering the gulfstream, but so far no saturation of dead birds or fish washing ashore.  If there were, we'd get saturated with photo's and stories of actual damage.  Still waiting....

Knowing the lies that are made by modern day yellow "journalists" and self interested "scientists" whose motive for promoting false global warming claims is to increase their income, we come to claims of massive damage by oil in the Gulf of Mexico.  

Red flags go up when the "journalists" & "scientists" start having to resort to claims of damage that can neither be proven nor demonstrated.  So their tactic is "go to the bottom of the ocean" where everything is dark and foreboding.  Then claim that the "darkness" and seeming lack of observable life "proves" that there has been massive destruction due to the oil spill.

This will pass and in a couple of years, the stories that won't get told about how this wasn't nearly as bad as the apocalyptic forecasts, possibilities, and could-be's were made to be.  I recall these same kinds of "journalists" and "scientists" claiming before and during the first Iraq war that it would take 20-30 years to put out all the oil well fires that Saddam Hussein was starting.  Same kinds of people - occasionally exactly the same people - are getting paraded out to the lame-stream media today.  The same thing happened with the Valdez spill - overzealous predictions, extraordinary lawsuits, and in retrospect, a huge heap of liars, lies, and exploiters of predictions that never came to pass.

The media and self-serving scientists are making this "crisis" orders of magnitude worse than reality will prove it to be.

And yes, there will be people who attempt to castigate me here.  Why?  Because there's a desire in our culture for victimhood and a propensity to want to believe that the worst will happen. I'll be accused of being callus to the damage being done.  I'll be accused of having an agenda.  I'll be called names.  Lots of insults and accusations.  But none of it will be based on fact, evidence, or observation.  So fire away.  History is on my side.  The lack of observable damage is on my side.

PS: If the EVIDENCE changes, I will change my position.  But so far, I'm waiting for something substantive.

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#3) On June 13, 2010 at 12:13 PM, imobillc (< 20) wrote:

 cthomas1017

Listen to me!  educate and inform yourself before making a a$$ of yourself..... 

You must not have a computer or a television set 

Mars 

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#4) On June 13, 2010 at 12:15 PM, dwot (97.03) wrote:

You serious cthomas1017?

I just watched a 2003 video that explored the possible reasons why 90% of sea lions in Alaska had disappeared.  The Exxon Valdez spill was the largest contributor to the problem.  The spill destroyed the ecosystem and created a huge advantage to polluck at the expense of herring and herring are sea lion's staple food.  The polluck doesn't offer enough calories for most cubs to survive.  This is a effect a dozen years after the spill, and Exxon Valdez was small compared to the BP disaster.  There are fisheries in the region that still haven't recovered.

Your post seems far more guilty of what you accuse and it is extremely selective to claim observable damage is on your side in light of what we know is damage from other spills.

There isn't a lot of life deep in the ocean, but there are very slow moving thermohaline currents.  I forget how many years it takes polar water to travel to the equator and vise-versa.  Oil closer to the surface moves via currents caused more by wind, gravity and weather.  These currents are faster moving.

The coastal eco-systems are enormous in terms of the oxygenation and food they provide for the planet.  

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#5) On June 13, 2010 at 12:45 PM, dwot (97.03) wrote:

Wow, BP accounts for 12% of all dividends paid by British companies...

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#6) On June 13, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Teacherman1 (62.19) wrote:

The Science Channel ( at least in the U.S.) is having a segment on this event. They are usually fairly accurate and unbiased. Will be interesting to watch. Assuming it is up to date. Don't know what their "turn around" time is for the shows they present.

Have a great day. 

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#7) On June 13, 2010 at 9:38 PM, jesusfreakinco (29.12) wrote:

Two words: Cover up...

Obama's legacy will eventually be exposed by an angry media that thought he was their savior, but has turned out to be a traitor to them.  Time will tell...

JFC

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#8) On June 13, 2010 at 9:42 PM, jesusfreakinco (29.12) wrote:

BP May Lose U.S. Oil Leases, Contracts as Gulf Spill Punishment

There is hope...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aUEvCDKBmN.k&pos=4

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#9) On June 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, jesusfreakinco (29.12) wrote:

June 14 (Bloomberg) -- BP Plc may lose control of its U.S. oil and natural gas wells and be barred from doing business with the federal government as punishment for the worst oil spill in U.S. history, industry and regulatory analysts said.

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#10) On June 13, 2010 at 10:00 PM, jesusfreakinco (29.12) wrote:

More hope...
Obama urged to 'punish' BP with $100bn action

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/obama-urged-to-punish-bp-with-100bn-action-1998853.html

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#11) On June 16, 2010 at 5:13 PM, miteycasey (35.10) wrote:

$100B???

That's 3 years of free cash flow.

Or this:

http://www.articlesnatch.com/Article/Famous-American-Legal-Cases---The-Exxon-Valdez-Oil-Spill/574454

 

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