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As Alstry said....PREPARE!!!!!! WW3????



June 18, 2009 – Comments (21)

Japan warns that North Korea may fire missile at U.S. on Independence Day

North Korea may launch a long-range ballistic missile towards Hawaii on American Independence Day, according to Japanese intelligence officials.

The missile, believed to be a Taepodong-2 with a range of up to 4,000 miles, would be launched in early July from the Dongchang-ni site on the north-western coast of the secretive country.

Intelligence analysts do not believe the device would be capable of hitting Hawaii's main islands, which are 4,500 miles from North Korea.

Details of the launch came from the Japan's best-selling newspaper, Yomiuri Shimbun.

Both Japanese intelligence and U.S. reconnaissance satellites have collated information pointing to the launch, according to the report.

The facts are the facts....Alstry simply analyzes them!!!!!!

You think we will just idly sit back and wait??????



21 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On June 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Varchild2008 (84.02) wrote:

A strong wind blowing on that day towards Hawaii and if the Missle explodes....Even if the missile doesn't reach Hawaii, the Radiation might... Assuming this one is nuclear.

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#2) On June 18, 2009 at 5:28 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

I highly doubt it will be noookliar....but a very effective way to pop a man made bubble is with a missle!!!!!

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#3) On June 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM, millionby24 (< 20) wrote:


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#4) On June 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM, UKIAHED (32.24) wrote:


WASHINGTON – The United States has positioned more missile defences around Hawaii as a precaution against a possible North Korean launch across the Pacific, Defence Secretary Robert Gates said today.

"We do have some concerns if they were to launch a missile to the west in the direction of Hawaii," Gates said.


Odd choice - I would have gone after Japan. That would have had almost the same impact globally.  Hmm...

BTW IMO - will not be nuke - too early for them to have one that small - yet...

WW3 - IMO - no.  It may spark a new Korean war...

On a side note - not sure that I would try to intercept if it (their missle) will miss anyway.  It would be a tad embarassing if we swing and miss.

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#5) On June 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, TrailerParkJawa (< 20) wrote:

Yes, the US will sit by and watch because the NK's are not going to try and attack Hawaii. At best they could reach one of the outer islands that has no targets. At best they can only deliver a convential warhead. Even if they could park a 5k nuclear bomb into say Pearl Harbor that would be an absolute disaster for the leadership of NK. They may be xenophoic, they may be crazy, but we haven't seen anything to show they will suddenly engage in suicidal behavior.

So while the possibility of war does alwasy exists I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Not as the result of a missle test anyway. I'm far more worried about a naval clash over fishing rights getting out of and resulting in a short but brutal clash along the DMZ.  

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#6) On June 18, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Seano67 (23.47) wrote:

It will not be a nuke. They do not have the capability to load a nuclear payload onto a missile, and in fact they're believed to be years away from reaching that point.

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#7) On June 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

On your mark....get set........

U.S. Navy tracking suspect N. Korean ship: report

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#8) On June 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Seano67 (23.47) wrote:

That's a dead link there, Alstry.

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#9) On June 18, 2009 at 6:41 PM, millionby24 (< 20) wrote:


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#10) On June 18, 2009 at 6:47 PM, AdirondackFund (< 20) wrote:

Yup, dead link for me too.  The world's gone nuts.  I don't see how the market can stay up. 

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#11) On June 18, 2009 at 6:50 PM, checklist34 (98.67) wrote:

i will say again, the very very slim probability of a grand scale war, and i mean very slim, would ultimately favor the US.

not happening

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#12) On June 18, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Varchild2008 (84.02) wrote:

The ship Alstry's dead link points out is one that which COULD have nuclear material on board.

I for one am sticking to my Guns.  It's not like we have access to what North Korea actually has and can do with nuclear material.

Some are speculating that the missile could have Chemical material and still be a Bio-Hazard if the wind catches and spreads the chemical around.

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#13) On June 18, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Varchild2008 (84.02) wrote:

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#14) On June 18, 2009 at 10:06 PM, PedoBear (< 20) wrote:

Celente is a fraud - nothing more than carefully selected general statements with vague timelines.

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#15) On June 18, 2009 at 10:07 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Sorry for the dead kid had a soccer game.....he scored two....thank goodness he got over his paternal genetic handicap.

Now the boys are coming over for book club...tonight we are reading Guiness and Ribs with Alstry's world famous recipie.

Who knows whether anything  comes of this...but something is likely to break between now and the end of September.

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#16) On June 18, 2009 at 11:01 PM, biotechmgr (< 20) wrote:

What if they have procured an underground nuke (stolen from Russia?). If they lob a missile toward us I think they want it to count. But then we wipe them off the map? Not sure, since all the fallout may blow onto allies territory. Wow this is a toughie if they keep this up...

 I'm planning some major shorts anyway per other indicators...

Oh and you think the bought media will suppress this one?

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#17) On June 19, 2009 at 1:33 AM, oshiri (< 20) wrote:

Greeting sempai alstry on the recommendation of RickOphoto.

Two problems that Dear Leader must overcome -- miniaturization and accuracy.  His underground nuke tests are probably using a bomb the size of our WWII bombs (Little Boy and Fat Man).  Shrinking one of those babies down to the size of a large football to be able to launch on his Taepodong-2 is a hurculean task at present.  Loose Russian nukes are also a problem as you need to have the tiny electronics to mate a Russian made warhead into a DPRK missile and have it detonate at a precise time/location.

As for accuracy, the further Dear Leader flies his missile, the less accurate it becomes.  Rudimentary guidance, telemetry, multiple stage separations, and even weather will play with his rocket.

South Korea and Japan have much-much more to fear than the 808 state.

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#18) On June 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Seano67 (23.47) wrote:

Good point, oshiri. The leap in technology required to miniaturize a bomb is just vast, and as things currently stand given NK's state of complete isolation, it's likely to be decades before they're able to attempt such a thing, if they're ever able to do it.

And true too on the Taepodong. They're better than a Scud, but the Taepo is hardly noted for its accuracy, and they've also been known to explode during launch. I know that if I were launching one of those suckers, I would not want to be *anywhere* near that launchpad. ;)

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#19) On June 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM, cthomas1017 (98.52) wrote:

The boy (and by that, I am referring to his manliness, this is NOT a racial slur) in the White House runs from international conflict faster than he is running our country into socialism.  He is too concerned with his image to take a huge risk in regards to NK.  NK should have never gotten a missle onto the pad in '09, much less getting one off the ground.  (The Chinese would have stomped their feet over a cruise missle, but with a small bang, they would have wanted to keep their largest export customer in the fold to prevent a social uprising in their own country.) 

Obama does not have the steel to stand up and take a stand in support of Iranian democracy.  He runs at the slightest controversy or shifts responsibility to Congress.  I don't for a minute think he will do anything but take a wait-and-see approach to NK.  He is a ruthless tiger in his personal politics (letting Raum do the dirty work), but on the world front, calling him a pussy cat would be kind.  The world is watching and we have blinked.

I am a huge admirer of Sec. Gates.  He turned around a mismanaged military in '08 and made some very astute moves, but I'm afraid his hands are tied in taking a more agressive stance in '09.  And Sec. Clinton has long been an appeaser of the Chi-Comm's, partially due to the debt game and Treasuries games being played.  The conspiracy bug in me says there were more deals made on her last trip to China in order to keep the Chinese buying our debt.

 I suspect that the missle talk is flexing muscles and won't come off as advertised.  But if it does, Obama will capitulate, fail to make a hard call, and we will lose one more peice on the global chess board.

 Just my 3 cents.  (Anticipating hyper-inflation at some point.) ;)

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#20) On June 19, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Schmacko (91.58) wrote:

We're not going to war with N.Korea.  N.Korea could lob a missile in our general direction, but they gain nothing by actually hitting us.  I'm trailerparkjawa in that a conflict over fishing rights or N.Korea reacting to a search and seizure of one of their vessels leading to shooting along the DMZ is much more likely. 

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#21) On June 19, 2009 at 12:23 PM, caltex1nomad (< 20) wrote:

NK does this saber rattling every once in awhile to get attention and they usually ask for some kind of handout after.

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