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Did apple just jump the shark with 52 billion bond offering ?

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April 30, 2013 – Comments (15) | RELATED TICKERS: AAPL

I'm guessing that   this  lastest  event  will be  forever  known as   Apple's jumping  the  shark.

It's  an  old  happy  day  reference  for  my  younger  fools ~  you older  fools  should know  what  I'm talking  about.

 

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#1) On April 30, 2013 at 6:32 PM, L0RDZ (80.14) wrote:

Floating rate  component  on  some  bonds ?

The  paranoid  schizzo  in  me  finds  its  interesting that  their  latest   claim  to  fame   isn't   about  any  new  products  or  revolutionary  advancements  like   their  latest  venture  into  mapping  the world ?  rolls  eyes  ?  or  having  phones  that  actually  are really  bad  at  making  real  phone calls ~~  double  eye roll  and  laugh.

Steve Jobs  was  big  on telling  people  what  they wanted...  really  expensive  phones   that  you  can  get  on  the  cheap by locking yourself  into  costly  2  year  contracts  originally  thru  american telephone  and  telegraph  company  and  more recently  with  that scummy (can't hear me now ?)  verizon.

That  you (Steve telling you !!)  wanted  to buy electronics  for  which  you would  have to go to an  apps store to get them to work or do anything  and  if  you wanted music  you  wanted  to go to  the  I-tunes  and  pay for  downloading   on  I-products.

Lets  face  it  for a  company  that  supposedly  has  a  lot  of  money somewhere hidden  off-shores  and  unable  to be  viably   used  ?  they sure   borrowed  a  lot  of  cheddar.

Apple  went  from  being  an  innovator and  grower  to  becoming  the  top  or  second  from  the top  paying  dividend  payer  in  $$$ I think  Exxon-Mobil  has  them  just slighty   beat  out  on a  total  $$$ perspective.

Only time  will  tell  if   we  have  seen  this latest  action  as    the  day  that  the  Apple  Corporation  jumped  the  Corporate  shark.

 

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#2) On April 30, 2013 at 6:47 PM, L0RDZ (80.14) wrote:

Ha ha ha  here  is  the  ghost  of  jobs jumping  the shark...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzes11yUR-E

 

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#3) On April 30, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Melaschasm (57.74) wrote:

Apple jumped the shark on tax minimizing policies.  Offering a dividend makes sense for a large cash generating company, but borrowing to finance said dividend as a tax avoidance policy is not a good idea.

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#4) On April 30, 2013 at 7:56 PM, L0RDZ (80.14) wrote:

Didn't  apple  offer  a dividend  a  while  back ?  how  did  that turn  out ?  turned  out  they  almost went  belly up...

So  now  they have  all this money  but  are  afraid  to use it ?  so they  borrow  to  manipulate  numbers and  appease   those who  wanted   bigger  and badder  returns of  capital.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgiVV7VJBaM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfYdFgs48_o

 

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#5) On April 30, 2013 at 10:01 PM, HarryCaraysGhost (99.63) wrote:

@      Melaschasm 

I heard, (Kudlow so take it for what it's worth
)

That  all the cash is overseas. Maybe Apple is suspecting a tax holiday where they could repatriot  the cash?

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#6) On May 01, 2013 at 1:24 PM, JaysRage (88.76) wrote:

I definitely think that Apple is waiting for a tax holiday, and why not?   With this kind of financing, they can wait forever, and it will still be cheaper than repatriating all that cash at the going rate.  

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#7) On May 01, 2013 at 2:01 PM, L0RDZ (80.14) wrote:

A tax  holiday ?   lol..

Ever wonder  how  they get away with  manipulating  things  so they  pay  little to no taxes.

 

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#8) On May 01, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Valyooo (99.43) wrote:

Yeah, it is a completely logical move on Apple's part...don't blam them, blame the tax man....I don't get why you are hellbent on trying make Apple look bad.

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#9) On May 01, 2013 at 3:41 PM, L0RDZ (80.14) wrote:

Apple  is  evil  valy,   where  others  have  open platforms  and  free applications  ~  apple  prefers  style  over  substance ~  prefers  closed  in  systems  ~  prefers  to  charge  you  for  something  that  is  free elsewhere.

Its  not  me  who is making them  look bad,  its all  on  themselves.

Apple tried to say it has  patent  rights to  the clock ?  the  photograph of  an electronic clock on  a  phone ?  get real ?  wtf ?

and that no one else  can  have it  ~  not even  clock makers  who have been around  since the beginning of  clocks... 

If only Apple  was  as  smart  as  they  think they are stylish.

Anyways plenty of  apple gung ho  buy at  high price analysts have been getting fired lately...

Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/04/18/apples-9-8-tax-rate-entirely-mind-gargling-nonsense/

http://www.macworld.com/article/1160302/apple_taxgroup.html

http://www.theonion.com/articles/apple-employee-fired-for-thinking-different,773/

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#10) On May 01, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Turfscape (43.76) wrote:

>>Apple  is  evil  valy,   where  others  have  open platforms  and  free applications  ~  apple  prefers  style  over  substance ~  prefers  closed  in  systems  ~  prefers  to  charge  you  for  something  that  is  free elsewhere.<<

Wow, when did you enter the utopian land of "corporations are evil and everything-should-be-free"? Next you'll be wearing a shirt with Che Guevara on it.

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#11) On May 01, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Valyooo (99.43) wrote:

If you don't like it, then don't pay for it and use the free stuff.....if the free stuff was better, AND its free, nobody would use Apple

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#12) On May 01, 2013 at 8:20 PM, ikkyu2 (99.22) wrote:

Reply at my CAPS blog.

TL;DR:  I do not believe AAPL has jumped the shark with this maneuver; I believe it was the only sensible course of action. 

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#13) On May 01, 2013 at 8:23 PM, ikkyu2 (99.22) wrote:

L0RDZ:  apple is evil.. apple.. prefers to charge you for something that is free elsewhere

Wow.  You are not going to find a lot of supporters here on CAPS, man, for the idea that corporations should not take a profit.  CAPS is about identifying corporations that make healthy, consistent profits, which CAPS players generally find to be laudable. 

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#14) On May 02, 2013 at 11:24 AM, L0RDZ (80.14) wrote:

Theres  taking  profits  and  than  there's  pig  like behavior for  instance  and  its  only a small point but  more a reflection  as a whole on  apple is  from what I'm  told   on  apple phones  you  can't  use  mp3  songs  as  ring  tones  like  on  other  phones,   why ?  because  apple would  rather sell  you  to  that  priveldge  of  you having to again pay  for  a ring  tone  even  if  you had  already bought  that  song  elsewhere ?

I'm  not  looking  for  supporters,  its  just  stupid  that someone  would either because  they  are too stupid  or  don't  care  to  pay  for  a  product  where  elsewhere  you  get  that  included.

To use  another  example its  like  buying a shirt  and  than  realizing  that  buttons  are  extra ?   the  android  shirt  comes with buttons   ~  the apple  shirt  doesn't.

Thats  all  I'm  saying  and  for  the  fools  who  think  that Apple  will  be  able to print  their  own  money just like  the US  gov-ment  if  and  when  they get in trouble, wow,  but  than  again  most  apple  consumers  as  well  as   those  who buy  the  shares  near  the  highs  are  delusional if  not dumb.

The books  are  cooked    and  if  they aren't  they soon will be.

 

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#15) On May 02, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Turfscape (43.76) wrote:

>>...from what I'm  told   on  apple phones  you  can't  use  mp3  songs  as  ring  tones  like  on  other  phones...<<

I've created my own ringtones from my own music on my iPhone, and paid nothing extra to Apple for that functionality. Apparently, you've been told wrong.

Your analogy is flawed, though. You're comparing a programming platform to a device. Apples and oranges (no pun intended). I'll avoid the emotional bravura and stick to investing based on the technical foundations of the underlying business. In this case, Apple is poised to remain highly profitable with growing sales and revenues. When the underlying technicals change, I'll re-evaluate my position.

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