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September 03, 2008 – Comments (11) | RELATED TICKERS: USO , GLD , AUY

The Republican party won't let Ron Paul on the Nomination Floor and if he agrees to a separate section with a pass and he won't be able to bring anyone. Is this the way our should be run or are they making up the rules as they go. Obama let Hillary on the floor. Please explain it to me.  

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#1) On September 03, 2008 at 10:28 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Sorry got distracted. The Republican party won't let Ron Paul on the Nomination Floor. If he agrees to a separate section with a pass he can come but he won't be able to bring anyone in to vote. Is this the way our Republican party runs or are they making up the rules as they go. Obama let Hillary on the floor. Please explain it to me. 

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#2) On September 03, 2008 at 10:31 PM, ajm101 (31.84) wrote:

Yes, that is the way the Republican party runs.  You're just noticing it now because you are on the other side of it.

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#3) On September 03, 2008 at 10:46 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Is that the way the election law reads?

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#4) On September 04, 2008 at 12:12 AM, devoish (98.56) wrote:

So who did the Republican party decide should represent Ron Pauls district for them.

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#5) On September 04, 2008 at 12:34 AM, LordZ wrote:

HMMM although I wasn't able to watch it in its entirety, at least the R's actually fully voted and there was like 5 votes for Ron Paul. What did the dems do ? they bull crappedly altogethered in mob fashion just declared Obama the candidate as opposed to allowing for any type of dissent which was so obvious it was laughable.

Ron is never really a team player and has done very little to earn anything, he lost and rather than congratulate and support Mccain he choose otherwise.

Mccain is the ultimate underdog and it would only be fitting for him to finally win the presidency.

Anyone remember 19-1

Yeah when the giants beat the undefeated patriots, also they beat those tough packers to get to the championship.

Mccain always an outsider to the majority in his party has honourably brought new life and a new direction to his party.

It will make for an interesting election.

Imagine the possibility of an old man and a woman beating out 2 smug wannabes.

Palin did pretty good.

 

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#6) On September 04, 2008 at 7:50 AM, DemonDoug (81.27) wrote:

Palin read a teleprompter of a speech that was written by George W Bush's speechwriter, and like most neocon statements, many of the things she said were either stretched truths our out-and-out lies.  She was not against earmarks.  She was not against pork.  She said she would be fore the disenfranchised, but she cut the budget for disadvantaged teens.  She was for the bridge to no where until Stevens got in trouble.  She said obama never had any legislation, and never had any bipartisan efforts.  Is that why Chuck Hagel is good friend's with Obama?  Oh yeah, a mayor of a 6,500 person town is different than a "community organizer" - a community organizer might have a single event that would have that many people.  And is likely dealing with much more harsh crime and deeper realities.  She talked about how small town americans are always hard working and country loving.  This may be the most offensive thing I heard all night.  Like people in big cities don't love our country?  And everyone in small towns do?  Let me tell you, I've been in small towns all over this country - there are plenty of people pissed off at right winged nutsos that are po'ed at the republicans for throwing them to the sheets.

Romney talked about Obama being part of the liberal "big brother" movement - meanwhile it's the republicans that are wiretapping everyone and collecting data on everyone, and who are also forcing their way into the classroom and doctor's office, whereas the democrats have a much more libertarian stance on these.  Who is Big Brother now Comrade Romney?

You are right, Lordz, Palin did pretty good.  Just like Bush, and Reagan before him, she delivered her lines with a down-home sense that people can relate too.  She is the epitome of a wolf in sheep's clothing, smiling at you while in her heart she wants to stab you in the back.

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#7) On September 04, 2008 at 8:32 AM, rd80 (98.26) wrote:

The convention procedures are very similar for both parties.  Ron Paul lost.  Had he decided to support McCain, he may have gotten a speaking slot - since he doesn't support the party's nominee, he doesn't get to play at the convention. Why would you expect either party to open their convention to someone who doesn't support the party's nominee?

Hillary at the D convention was a very different story.  She did decide to support Obama (I'll leave it for others to debate whether that's for show or real support).  Under the D rules with superdelegates, she theoretically could still have been the nominee had enough of them flipped at the last minute.  Most importantly, her speaking at the D convention helps the party in Nov.  You'll notice the Democratic convention didn't have any speakers who didn't support Sen Obama.

As far as access to the floor, I think both parties follow similar rules.  You need to be credentialed to be on the convention floor.  The Republicans don't have the same superdelegate system the Democrats use.  Under the Democratic Party system, Hillary would have access to the floor even if they didn't want her there because she's also a super delegate.  However, she would not have been able to bring anyone with her unless they were also credentialed. 

Federal election laws don't all apply to a party nominating process.  For example, state population/electoral vote count is only one criteria used in apportioning delegates, so not everyone's primary vote carries the same weight.  Both parties use a combination of state population, support in previous elections, importance in the upcoming election and other factors to set the number of delegates for each state.  For both parties, the no/partial/full delegations from FL and MI and the Democrat superdelegate process would never pass Federal Election law.  However, since the process is nominating a party's candidate, not electing an official, they can pretty much run the primary/nomination process any way they want.

Devo - In the Republican Party of Virginia, each congressional district holds a convention after the primaries.  One of the main orders of business is to elect that district's delegates to the national convention.  A requirement to run for national convention delegate is to sign a pledge promising to vote for the candidate that won the VA primary.  I think the Democrats use the same system, but don't know for sure. I would assume Ron Paul's district in Texas used a similar process to select their delegates , but again, don't know for sure.

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#8) On September 04, 2008 at 10:31 AM, LordZ wrote:

So according to Demon the new face of evil to his idealogy is a working mother of five, a wolf in sheep clothing

or as you said "She is the epitome of a wolf in sheep's clothing, smiling at you while in her heart she wants to stab you in the back."

Obama and Biden had better sign up for the he man woman haters club before this hockey mom chews them up with simple truth that she is more akin to regular people than they ever will be, that she is representative of the struggles of women and ordinary people.

She was likeable, she said the right things, and she delivered much to many women haters disgust.

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#9) On September 04, 2008 at 2:23 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

oh thank you for letting me know how it works

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#10) On September 04, 2008 at 7:35 PM, rd80 (98.26) wrote:

I wasn't very clear with this statement about Sen Clinton,  "However, she would not have been able to bring anyone with her unless they were also credentialed."

This year, Clinton had a large number of delegates that she won in the primaries, so she would have had a lot of credentialed folks with her on the floor regardless of what the party wanted.

In the case of Ron Paul, I don't believe he won any delegates in the Republican primaries, which is why he wouldn't have been allowed to bring anyone on the floor.

Sorry for any confusion.

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#11) On September 08, 2008 at 1:19 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Thank you all.

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