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May 06, 2009 – Comments (16) | RELATED TICKERS: TZI , CAL.DL

The following blog is dedicated to herztical, and is being written because I lost a bet last week. I bet TLT would outperform TBT last week. I had my reasons for this, which I will explain, and this blog post will hopefully illustrate where I was wrong, and how very right that herztical was.

 

As I noted in a March 18th blog, the US is clearly having trouble finding buyers for our long term treasuries. The breakout in treasuries last week further solidifies that notion, and indicates the timeline of our decline may be faster than many anticipate.

 

The yield on the 10 Year T-Bill rose to 3.20% last week, from a low of 2.54% after the March 18th Fed announcement to buy long term treasuries. The 30 year yield has also risen considerably.

 

I fully expected the Fed would take at least some action at last weeks Fed meeting, to confirm their desire to keep long term rates low. There is debate as to whether or not the Fed actually has any ability to affect long term rates. I believe they can affect them in the short run, as proven by the dramatic drop in yields on the day they announced their intent to make the purchases. I also believe that they have no ability to control long term rates for much more than a few months at best.

 

A little mentioned item from the Wednesday Fed meeting was the increase in the frequency of the 30 Year T-Bill sales to now be monthly, rather than quarterly, as it becomes clear that in order to finance all of the “stimulus”, etc, we are going to need to sell a whole lot of debt.

 

So what does this mean for the typical investor that typically does not follow the bond market?

 

Well, the Fed knows eventually it is going to need to raise rates to prevent inflation from getting out of control. Bernanke has studied too long the impact of contracting money supplies in the depression era, so we can be sure he is not going to want to pull the trigger very quickly to reign in the helicopter printing press. But, lo and behold, the market is reacting and raising rates on its own.

 

With world stock markets climbing, the “flight to safety” is leaving, and money is finding a “safe enough” home in a variety of instruments other than US T-Bills (Such as foreign debt, corporate bonds, and equities).

 

Add to the list of problems, oil and commodity prices are steadily rising. If this does not reverse soon, inflation expectations are going to drive market interest rates up at an even faster pace.

 

Now comes the part where I need to make some predictions…

To keep the banks from coming under too much pressure, and to avoid having to directly steal the money from taxpayers to the point that pitchforks become a reality, the Fed will take actions that will prop up the housing market.

 

In his testimony before congress today, Bernanke indicated the housing market is reaching a bottom. Reading between the lines, this means either he believes the economy is going to grow healthy in the next few months, or the Fed is going to do whatever it takes to prop up the housing market.

 

NOTE: I am not advocating running out and buying a house in the California desert just yet…

 

To keep the housing market propped up, the Fed cannot allow rates to just rise in an uncontrollable spiral. I would imagine one of the next steps will be for the Fed to issue an even longer term bond like a 50 year. This could serve as the basis for helping to hold up home prices, since it could issue a new era of 40 and 50 year mortgages.

 

The 50 year mortgage solves all our problems (short-term), by allowing people who are underwater on their homes to be able to refinance into a payment plan they can afford, while it keeps the bank’s balance sheets strong. The banks will effectively own that person’s future. Less than 20% of people will ever pay off a 50 year mortgage. They will die and the house will be sold, and the bank will be made whole on the principal, plus they will have been draining the J6P for interest payments (rent) the rest of their lives.

 

50 year mortgages will also help sell the glut of housing inventory, since sideline buyers will now be able to afford the monthly payments on the currently overpriced inventory.

 

This plan is good enough to work, because along with it helping the banks control the next two generations, it also helps government control, since propping up home prices also has the effect of driving up property tax revenue.

 

There you go. Win-Win.

 

Not to digress, but where I think herztical went right, is that the Fed fully knew it had no chance at keeping the 10 Year below 3%, so it essentially folded without any effort this week in an attempt to save its ammunition and draw a line in the sand at 4% or higher. Provided the stock markets stay flat over the next month, I would expect 10 year rates to climb steadily and bump up around 4% by the next Fed meeting.

 

We all know that in the long run (3+ years), interest rates MUST go up, however in real life, I am not shorting bonds and do not advise buying TLT or TBT. I believe the market is about ready to start falling, and when it does, the flight to safety will reveal itself in a short term rise in bonds.

 

Please for the enjoyment of all readers, I would request the following comments not be included in the comments section:

 

1. This is Obama’s Fault

2. This is Bush’s Fault

16 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On May 06, 2009 at 2:04 AM, goldminingXpert (99.81) wrote:

I rec'd. Sorry.

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#2) On May 06, 2009 at 2:32 AM, AccuKas (< 20) wrote:

Sorry to say this, but I doubt anyone will buy long term bonds even if the market recedes.

 

The only safe investment for now is short term tresury. That is if you consider the dollar safe.

 

Silver seems like the safest thing right now. 

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#3) On May 06, 2009 at 3:23 AM, tonylogan1 (29.13) wrote:

AccuKas - If "no one" buys long term bonds, the world as we know it will implode. If you are meaning to say that "less people" will buy long term bonds, then I agree you may have a good point. This time when the market declines, I am expecting you may see less of a rush to long term bonds than last time the market tanked. That does not mean long term bond prices will go down... just not as far up as they previously had in a downward market. There are obviously a lot of factors here, I did not even address how the Chinese may act to defend their bond positions... I am really feeling the short term deflation trade, so I can't agree with silver right now. I would not mind shorting gold and going long the same amount of silver... That would be a nice hedged strategy. Maybe throw in short oil, long natural gas combo too...

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#4) On May 06, 2009 at 5:13 AM, kaskoosek (99.70) wrote:

 tonylogan1 

 

"If "no one" buys long term bonds, the world as we know it will implode." 

Why?

Even if it has negative consequences, does not mean that it will not happen. 

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#5) On May 06, 2009 at 5:24 AM, whereaminow (91.05) wrote:

Just to prove I can follow simple instructions, I did not rec this blog.

But I did read it, and I appreciate the analysis.

David in Qatar

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#6) On May 06, 2009 at 6:21 AM, kaskoosek (99.70) wrote:

 whereaminow

 

Reverse phycology at work here. 

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#7) On May 06, 2009 at 9:13 AM, tonylogan1 (29.13) wrote:

kaskoosek - Do you have an understanding of how the bond markets work? If there was a 30 year auction, and no one was willing to take on any US Debt, the earth would not literally open up and swallow us whole, but it would be the equivalent of Rome being set on fire.

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#8) On May 06, 2009 at 10:29 AM, kaskoosek (99.70) wrote:

tonylogan1

 

Not really, the fed buys more, they can opt to devalue the currency.

 

Which they are willing to do.

 

 

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#9) On May 06, 2009 at 10:47 AM, tonylogan1 (29.13) wrote:

kas - The Fed cannot buy that many treasuries without EXTREME consequences. Of course they "can" buy as many as they want, but in practice, they cannot be the only buyer without a Argentinian type scenario unfolding.

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#10) On May 06, 2009 at 11:21 AM, binve (29.29) wrote:

Sorry man, I am simply compelled to rec this blog :)

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#11) On May 06, 2009 at 11:29 AM, tonylogan1 (29.13) wrote:

kas - one more point... consider how likely it would be that "no one" would buy the S&P because the news was soooo bad.

Well, this would never happen, becuase there are always fools out there if you drop the price a bit.

Obviously, you can get the more realistic scenario, where "less" people buy the S&P, which wll drive the price down, but will not take it instantly to zero.

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#12) On May 06, 2009 at 12:17 PM, herztical (28.94) wrote:

Rec away!  Tony you missed all my points WHY I like TBT!

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#13) On May 06, 2009 at 12:22 PM, tonylogan1 (29.13) wrote:

ok.. sorry Herz...

I don't want to mis-quote you, so you may need to reply if I am not correct... 

Herz's main argument in favor of buying TBT is that inflation is coming now, without a pause of deflation first. He advises buying oil and commodities now, rather than waiting a few months as I would recommend. He was correct about this last week. I remain doubtful about if this will hold true over the next 1-3 months.

(I'd prefer long-short combos, rather than going long commodities here)

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#14) On May 06, 2009 at 12:29 PM, herztical (28.94) wrote:

In short: inflation, foreign buyers (China) demanding more yield to compensate for increased risk of US backed debt, USD weakness ($ that is), and flight from quality to earn  

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#15) On May 06, 2009 at 12:31 PM, herztical (28.94) wrote:

flight from quality to more risk

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#16) On May 06, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Masterofdabull (96.60) wrote:

Honesty and humility will not be tolerated in the stock market. Write this down. As for the rest of the blog, who knows? Gambling and stocks do not mix.

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