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Doctor Ron Paul Congressman Paul on the Recent Swine Flu Scare 27 April 09

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April 28, 2009 – Comments (16)

Is there anything this guy cannot speak on?

Compared to this guy?

 

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#1) On April 28, 2009 at 9:51 PM, angusthermopylae (40.09) wrote:

Again, I'll say it--a Machiavellian response that Mr. Paul refers to (Homeland Security getting involved.)

Next up, the hard-right GOP joins forces with the unions to push for reducing imports from afflicted countries.  After all, "we gotta think of the children."

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#2) On April 28, 2009 at 10:02 PM, alstry (35.21) wrote:

As our Congresspeople aides and abets the bankers looting our country......the world's economy continues to shut down......

From tonight's WSJ and joining Japan:

Prague -- During its manufacturing boom earlier this decade, the Czech Republic wooed immigrants with plentiful jobs and comparatively higher wages. Now the Czech government is paying them to go back home.

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#3) On April 28, 2009 at 10:29 PM, svande8952 (< 20) wrote:

LOL at the McCain clip, that was hilarious.  So glad I did not vote for him.

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#4) On April 28, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Aldecoa (29.62) wrote:

We want to live and something wants to kill us.  We want to thrive and something wants to take from us.  I see a pattern...call it the Tao or anything you like, but I feel that opposition is present at every step.  

Fear is its best friend and the two conspire to leave us feeling incomplete about life, regardless to how much we've accomplished.  

Primates pulling the strings of other primates.  Stupid stardust.  Ignorant of the big picture.  Greed.  Anger.  Foolishness.  A little is okay, but this is getting way out of hand.  

Good thing the pendulum always swings in the opposite direction.  The only problem is that mankind might one day be left out of the equation, but not by the Swine Flu.  We'll go out with a bang...not a whimper. 

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#5) On April 29, 2009 at 2:14 AM, blake303 (29.51) wrote:

Did Paul really say anything? I share many opinions with Paul, but he gets a pass on every quote on this site and he really didn't say anything of substance in this clip. "Step back and think" is a far better recommendation for considerations on financial stimulus and bailouts than a flu pandemic (real or not). Criticize everything, pat yourself on the back, bring up an irrelevant analogy, then fail to provide an alternative or solution other than parroting "small gov't". Whether he likes it or not, the Dept of Homeland Security exists. I would rather have a department in charge of health affairs, transportation, border protection, and immigration involved in this process than to ignore it and hope another organization picks up the slack. Yes there is redundancy. I know we have the CDC and other agencies that may fit into the disease prevention category. Yet, if this was a true pandemic, which it most likely will not be, isn't a little overkill a good thing? Furthermore, the media has been exponentially worse than the government in terms of "getting people upset". Another politician grandstanding. Nothing to see here.

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#6) On April 29, 2009 at 2:19 AM, blake303 (29.51) wrote:

Aldecoa - Am I completely off base if I read your response with Chong doing the internal narration? Lay off the stardust, buddy.

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#7) On April 29, 2009 at 12:54 PM, whereaminow (46.24) wrote:

abitare,

SWHC shot up big today. Again, let me thank you for such a great call. When I give my fiancee that Channel purse she's been wanting I'll let her know it's a present from abitare. =D

How long should I hold on to this bad boy? Could this roll for another six months?  Any thoughts appreciated.

David in Qatar

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#8) On April 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM, angusthermopylae (40.09) wrote:

Credit where due--I'm in the same position as whereaminow, long SWHC with a good, reasonable return...all thanks to your discussions.

I think I will place it on my "medium-long" category...keep it as the bad news piles up, drop it if/when things start to ease up, then buy again after it drops...

...that is, if there is "good news" within the next 2-3 months.  If not, it'll be a long hold.

Panic comes and goes, but real fear takes a long time to dissipate.  After all, look at what happened when one of the presidential aircraft made a low flyover of New York.

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#9) On April 29, 2009 at 5:42 PM, SideShowMel0329 (53.76) wrote:

I find it funny that Paultards claim everyone else are sheeple, yet they are the sheep to Ron Paul's herd.

This guy is saying the same thing that any other sane person is saying. Get off his nuts and start thinking for yourself.

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#10) On April 29, 2009 at 5:49 PM, whereaminow (46.24) wrote:

SideShowMel0329,

LMAO. The 1% of the population that are Libertarians need to stop following the herd!!!! You sheep going out there and casting write-in ballots!!!!!!  How silly of you to just do what everyone else is doing!!!! HAHAHAHAHHHAHHA

David in Qatar

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#11) On April 29, 2009 at 7:25 PM, abitare (49.90) wrote:

ALCON,

 

Thank you for the replies.

 

angusthermopylae

 

I think many of the government agencies are looking to add to their roles, Swine Flu is just another opportunity.

 

 alstry,

 

As our Congresspeople aides and abets the bankers looting our country......the world's economy continues to shut down.....

Yep, I think it is going to be worse overseas then in the US.

svande8952

LOL at the McCain clip, that was hilarious. 

I am no Obama fan, but I can say, I prefer Obama to McCain.

Aldecoa

Good thing the pendulum always swings in the opposite direction.  

Not sure this is a good thing, but I do believe in the pendulum theory. It depends where you are during the swing.

We'll go out with a bang...not a whimper. 

Maybe

blake303

Did Paul really say anything?

Yes, Dr Paul says the government intervened before and 24 died from the vaccine, one died from the disease. That is how government intervention works. Did you miss that?

Another politician grandstanding. Nothing to see here.

lol, ok then another clip.

 

Lay off the stardust, buddy.

That is funny.

whereaminow  

give my fiancee that Channel purse she's been wanting

Buy her gold instead, she will thank you later. M.E. is a great place to get gold.

BREAK -----------------------------

SWHC- I like the story, I think it still has some legs and some room to continue up. People are still going crazy for guns and ammo, I saw another news report last night. I do not think that will change for several years, until production gets ramped up or taxes kill the open market.

I took out some leverage at $5ish, that was a mistake. I think GS or someone is running up the market, SWHC is enjoying the ride.  I believe in "Sell in May and go away" in general, but I am likely holding on to SWHC past $10 or past $5, which ever comes first.

You could take some profits pre-May. But I think you can hold for another year or so until legislation changes or production ramps up. Forbes did another write up on Guns recently, I think the mania has legs.

Panic comes and goes, but real fear takes a long time to dissipate.

Yes, agree here.  

SideShowMel0329

This guy is saying the same thing that any other sane person is saying.

Really? People are saying this:

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#12) On April 29, 2009 at 7:27 PM, abitare (49.90) wrote:

Another bullish write up here:

Going Great Guns

at Forbes.com(Thu, Apr 23)

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#13) On April 29, 2009 at 7:37 PM, whereaminow (46.24) wrote:

Thanks abitare. I'll consider taking a little profit soon, cut my position down 25% or so, and then watch it closely from there on out.

Buy her gold instead, she will thank you later. M.E. is a great place to get gold.

LOL, well girls like shiny things, but I buy her enough gold. Purses and shoes are always a good compliment.

David in Qatar

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#14) On April 30, 2009 at 12:15 PM, blake303 (29.51) wrote:

Yes, Dr Paul says the government intervened before and 24 died from the vaccine, one died from the disease. That is how government intervention works. Did you miss that?

I agree with him in that the government overreacted in 1976 (and is now) and the vaccine should not have been required by the government, but what he failed to mention was approximately one third of Americans received the vaccine in 1976. That is over 70,000,000 people. I believe it is completely misleading to say that more people died from the vaccine than the flu because it is impossible to know how many were prevented from contracting the virus due to vaccination. He also fails to mention that the 2009 outbreak is being fought with anti-viral drugs, not an influenza vaccine. 

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#15) On May 01, 2009 at 1:10 AM, angusthermopylae (40.09) wrote:

He also fails to mention that the 2009 outbreak is being fought with anti-viral drugs, not an influenza vaccine.

While that may be true, it's only because there isn't a vaccine.  Paul was a formal Libertarian, and still takes a Libertarian spin on things...which I usually agree with.

In this case, it's the fact that, in an environment of [what may be baseless] fear, there appears to be a lot of authority being exercised (or talked about) that was never intended or actually given.

I mean, come on...Homeland Security vs. the Plague???

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#16) On May 01, 2009 at 12:35 PM, blake303 (29.51) wrote:

I know there is not a vaccine. I did not suggest there was. If there were, I still do not see the government making innoculation mandatory as was the case in 1976 because there are better options. 

I am not a proponent of the Department of Homeland Security, quite the opposite. Any department that includes FEMA and the responsibility of moving the terrorism threat rainbow up and down should be dismantled. However, the department is not comprised entirely of border patrol agents and air marshalls. There are doctors and scientists currently employed by the department that should be utilized for containing outbreaks. If a more serious health threat did arise, I think we should throw every available resource at it to minimize deaths. Or we can just sit back and let epidemics get out of control in the name of small government.

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