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Does TRDH like Alstry? A lesson in smack talk.



March 07, 2009 – Comments (26)

NOTE:  This is not a negative blog about TRDH and consistent with my promise to TMF Jake to not personally attack another player.  It is simply smack talk in the spirit of competition and free market capitalism and a demonstration showing in America, although it is becoming more and more difficult, if you work hard and apply some ingenuity, you too can reach the top.

There is also an important life lesson here...always respect those around you even when you think you are so far above them that they will never have an influence on you, because you never know when they will be on top.

And for those of you comrades that never played a competitve game or sport in your life, smack talk among worthy competitors is always dished out with the greatest respect.  It is just few players are worthy......notice that Alstry only smacked top was my way of showing respect before I took them to school.

There can be honor among champions, too bad too few have the character to truly be a champion.  Being a true champion is about character, skill is only a baseline trait.

Let's make one point clear, this blog would have never been written if TRDH had not smacked talked Alstry first.  He said I provided NO investment advice.

Can you believe TRDH said Alstry's blog provided no investment advice????  Yet in half the time playing, Alstry is now neck and neck with TRDH with LESS than 25% of the total picks!!!!!!!  Hmmmmm.......TRDH has made over 4X the picks as Alstry and has played twice as long and Alstry is right behind him.......

I now feel like a NASCAR driver coming up against the leaders from behind.  Spec Bear is the only top ten player with an Average Pick score close to mine.  That means each time we make a pick, we both swing for the fence.  Others try to do it, but few can do it as consistently as we that light...Spec Bears score is truly amazing.

TRDH...don't fret.  An appology would be nice...but I expect nor request anything out of you.  I am a capitalist and a free market thinker with a strong personal social justice bias.  In CAPs, just like a true free market economy, the best can, though not always, rise to the top. 

Fortune comes to those who work hard and prepare.  The harder you work, the more fortunate you can be...but chance can always create havoc on even the best set plans even to the most persistent.  It is at those times when you have to dig deep, really deep to crawl up from even the deepest holes. 

If you want to go after those above you, that is honorable as long as done with character and respect...but smacking those below....that is a bit cowardly don't you think?  If you noticed, Alstry only smacked talked those much higher scores or popularity than him, those with a foundation should able to take it.  It was amazing how many so called leaders, not you TRDH, cried and whined when things didn't go their way.  You think that person deserved to be a leader in a free market world????

Alstry lost a few games over the past year.....and when he did, he went out of his way to congratulate the winner..with complete sincerity and respect.

I simply hope CAPs and America is not degenerating into entitlement based whining society where people cry and moan when things don't go there way.  Our nation was built on greatness.  We used to produce the best products.  We loved to win because we were the best.  But look what has happened... we have exported our best manufacturing and taken second seat in a number of areas including the hard sciences to rising intellectual capital around the world.

Alstry is all about trying your hardest and being the best you can can throw us curve balls, and I have had my fair share......but unless your arms fall off, get back up to the plate and swing again.  For those of you that are warriors....smack talk is fine...but do it with honor and respect.  For Alstry, that means only smacking a player with a higher score, rating, or popularity in a particular area at the time.  Use your own set of standards.

My days are likely numbered, but most of you will play on to carry on a fine tradition....the better you are, the better you make those that play around you.

You guys have made Alstry a much better player.  Hopefully he has taught you a thing or two.  The Institute of Alstrynomics will continue forward and you guys will always be a key part of it.  By collective thought and proper focused application, CAPS can kick Wall Street's backside over and over again.  And if CAPs can do can you.

PS:  Anyone know what happened to Donner boy, I think he stole my hat????

26 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On March 07, 2009 at 11:21 AM, columbia1 wrote:

I took a look at the stats of the top ten, might be possible to get to 5th, then it looks like a road block. You have the accuracy but not the points with just 50 active picks going. I never realized how far ahead Specbear was!! A properly (and precisely) timed pick of 50 new ones might quickly catapult you to the top. Good luck!!

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#2) On March 07, 2009 at 11:57 AM, XMFRosetint (44.32) wrote:

Wow, Alstry. That title really isn't appropriate for an investing website.

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#3) On March 07, 2009 at 1:10 PM, ikkyu2 (98.57) wrote:

You are a poor sport and show a lack of courtesy.  The only advice I'd want regarding you or Alstrynomics is how not to come off the way you do in public.

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#4) On March 07, 2009 at 1:17 PM, kaskoosek (29.91) wrote:

Tasteless is all I have to say.

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#5) On March 07, 2009 at 1:20 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


Obviously you have never competitively raced cars have you????

Take it in the light hearted nature it was obviously intended.  You better learn how to take life a little less seriously, what is coming down the road is about to knock many off their horses.

If you can't handle a little light natured fun, you will not be able to deal with what is ahead.

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#6) On March 07, 2009 at 1:30 PM, tonylogan1 (27.51) wrote:

geeze, you guys are bagging on Alstry for this post? You clearly have not read is other work... This one is not bad by any stretch. He is right, (stuff) is going to keep hitting the fan for a while, and people better buckle up.

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#7) On March 07, 2009 at 1:30 PM, angusthermopylae (37.87) wrote:

Maybe the "from behind" comment is part of the NASCAR theme?  Not anything else...

lol...if you jump to the other interpretation, then mayhaps there is a Freudian issue?

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#8) On March 07, 2009 at 1:39 PM, GeneralDemon (26.17) wrote:

Alstry, there is not a finer player than TDRH. This is completely unnecessary BS.

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#9) On March 07, 2009 at 1:44 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


Nobody is questioning how fine TRDH is..... saying my blog provided no investment value on more than one occasion, what do you think he ment by that now that I am about equal in points with only 1/4 the picks and a higher accuracy??????

If he can dish it out.....surely he can take it......right???

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#10) On March 07, 2009 at 2:15 PM, GeneralDemon (26.17) wrote:

Alstry, I have been communicating with you since SPF yahoo board (a year or two prior to CAPS) -I remember you best by knocking down idiots like Bellard (remember him) - It just is hard for you to not attack even the good. If TDRH (of all people) stated that your posts were lacking - accept the advice and up your stuff. You should thank him, tip your hat, then head for the finish line. Being in competitive sports myself at the national level (when I was young), I always admired the player who won and didn't need the edge of added mind games.

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#11) On March 07, 2009 at 2:38 PM, diditbad100 (< 20) wrote:

My score is in the bottom half of the 60,000 plus competitors.

I have viewed Spec Bears picks and have great respect for his knowledge of the direction of the market---down, down, down.

I do not even dream of being able to beat this score because he timed this downturn better than anyone I have seen!

However I am not looking to time the market and find picks that are almost all double short to be useless--especially since I feel I was way too late seeing this trend!  I anxiously await to see what will happen if this market ever reverses directions!

Perhaps even I could end up in the top 1/3!

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#12) On March 07, 2009 at 2:53 PM, HooDaHeckNose (83.63) wrote:

I liked it better when the title suggested that you'd like TDRH to take you from behind.

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#13) On March 07, 2009 at 3:06 PM, RonChapmanJr (29.77) wrote:

This is not consistent with your promise to Jake.  It's not that hard to read between the lines in this one. 

You are reaching new lows as your score reaches new highs.  Like most Fools, I also hope your days are numbered so you can stop this type of nonsense.  Stick with telling us negative information about the economy, you are good at that.

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#14) On March 07, 2009 at 4:53 PM, cclogic77 (22.20) wrote:

I really don't think this post is that bad... he said to take it light-hertedly, and he is basically just showing how much he enjoys the "game" of CAPS. Yeah sure, maybe bragging about having a higher average pick score and accuracy isn't the most mature way to blog, but all you 99+ people cannot tell me with a straight face that you don't get excited when your score/player rating reachng es new heights. I know that I was pretty darn excited when I jumped up to a rating of 95, althought the next day it crashed back down... haha.

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#15) On March 07, 2009 at 5:15 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


You are upset that you spent all that money going to Harvard and you can't even stay close to my exhaust.  I always knew Stanford grads had a whole lot more class and were a lot more fun to drink with......and I know a bunch of both.

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#16) On March 07, 2009 at 5:23 PM, anchak (99.89) wrote:

Do not worry Ron.....In fact I seriously think this post from Alstry was needed ......James (TDRH) is a gentleman - and this is also possibly going to be seminal 

People surely remember RudolphSteiner's series from last summer ( I think his best rank was #3) ,   He incidentally would falsh a rhetorical question and write some EXCELLENT stuff on energy. He is still a fav of mine - and he is slowly climbing back (90+ percentile).

Additionally camistocks ( one of the last bulls standing , who was also Top 100 in CAPS before hell broke loose) - is 50+ percentile

Thus also the market itself is setting lower lows - yet not every sector or stock is doing so.

We need to freeze this post into posterity - and hope this DOES mark a milestone of a very positive kind - and not the one being preached here

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#17) On March 07, 2009 at 6:37 PM, homnibus (< 20) wrote:

You've written a lot of good prescient stuff. 

But TRDH accuses you of providing no investment advice and you respond with a blog that contains ZERO INVESTMENT ADVICE!! 

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#18) On March 07, 2009 at 9:14 PM, SideShowMel0329 (33.92) wrote:

A broken clock is right twice a day. You happened to join right before a recession hit, so an perma-bear lunatic like yourself would quickly find himself at the top.

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#19) On March 07, 2009 at 11:13 PM, eldemonio (98.24) wrote:

Reading your blog is almost like watching a telenovela.  It is filled with ridiculous emotion and very little substance.  I should know, my blogs are ridiculously useless.

Calling your blogs investment advice is a stretch at best.    

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#20) On March 07, 2009 at 11:14 PM, PDTBiotech (83.11) wrote:

Haha - the Nascar bit reminds me of a Nascar-themed movie; specifically that scene in Talladega Nights where Ricky Bobby thinks that just saying "I'm sayin' this with all due respect..." before insulting them makes it ok.  You seem to be doing the online version with your "this is not a negative blog about..." schtick.

I was wrong about you looking like you were about to get the ax.  You're bulletproof.   It appears it's impossible for you to make MF look stupid enough to give you the boot.   They must think the tinfoil hat crowd is pretty important to dedicate someone to editing your stuff rather than just LordZ'ing you on the spot.  Go ahead and respond with outright hostility minus the ridiculous disclaimer, it doesn't seem like it'll make a bit of difference.  Congrats.

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#21) On March 07, 2009 at 11:57 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Elde...what about going to 100% cash last year don't you understand????????  By doing so you would have only outperformed just about everyone in the nation.

If that advice doesn't suit your fancy, I think that is fine.  If you outperformed that advice....congratulations. 

 I did:)

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#22) On March 08, 2009 at 5:50 AM, nihilkillsmemore (20.50) wrote:

WOW alstry..YOU lost and made millions of dollers huh! I didnt know dairy queen had a hedge fund..

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#23) On March 09, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Donnernv (< 20) wrote:

Let's clear away some of the bullwhacky about Alstynomics.  Simply parroting the thoughtful opinions of esteemed, or noted, economists does not constitute original thinking.  Repeating them over and over and over does not qualify one for soothsayer of the decade.  "The sky is falling" gets a little old.

You have added absolutely nothing to the others' observations.  And their observations predate your screed and lay out in concrete terms their analysis.

If you'd like to exmine the more thoughtful precursors to your screeching, I'd suggest the following:


James Kuntsler April 2007 

John Williams January 2008

Bill Fleckenstein January 2008

Jim Rogers December 2007

Doug Kass January 2008

Peter Schiff December 2007

Nouriel Roubini December 2007

Robert Shiller November 2007

Meredith Whitney November 2007

Wilbur Ross June 2007

Jim Jubak April 2005

David Tice May 2007

Ravi Batra January 2008

Having made clear that you have added nothing to "the sky is falling" screed, and as you have profited from the obvious "short everything and buy the 2x and 3x inverses", without ever picking a decent stock long, my compliments.

But, having said that, I'd like to make a life-style suggestion.  The Yahoo Finance board blew you off.  Having read those blogs and comment responses, I can see why.

Yet you continue the same behavior on CAPS.  Your captured and regurgitated observations have value to those who do not read the commentary from more analytical observers on a daily basis.  Your summary of those thoughtful observers' opinions under the label Alstrynomics does serve a useful purpose.

But if you'd not pose as if these were your deep original thoughts, with the attendant third person, arrogant, condescending attitude, you might begin to approach the attendance and popularity of GV.

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#24) On March 09, 2009 at 11:51 AM, redneckdemon (< 20) wrote:


Sure, anyone can parrot the advice of others, but I can't help but wonder how you pointing that out is helping here.  I look at your score (I'll use your's, since I don't follow anyONE's advice) and I look at Alstry's.  Hmm.

I notice that Alstry dosen't come right out and say: "Short XXX RIGHT NOW!!!" very much.  Perhaps that qualifies as not posting sound investment advice.  Then again, I can easily look at Alstry's picks (both active and closed) all the way back to his beginning here in CAPS.  It dosen't take a masters degree to understand that if I had added him as a favorite and followed his picks, I might have a similar score.  Maybe some lead by example as opposed to "Do as I say, not as I do" methods of approach.

I should point out that it is not my intention to keep defending the guy, but when folks don't apply a little logic before posting, I see no reason why I shouldn't poke holes in their arguments.

Which reminds me: RonChaomanJr:

Whicky Tango Foxtrot, man?  Alstry promised not to pick on people, but holy smokes, why aren't they busting down your door?  You are quite right: it ain't hard to read between the lines.  Fortunately, he spelled it out when he called it good natured trash-talking.  I could have sworn it wasn't directed at you, in any case.

It seems you can't stand Alstry, yet you keep popping up in his blogs.  I've said it before, and I'll keep repeating myself till I get an answer with some kind out logic behind it: "Why do you keep reading his posts if you don't like him?  Why do you keep taunting him when his STATED desire is to draw attention from the people who are easily offended and would preffer a pleasant lie?".

Do any of you deny the economy has gone down like a lead balloon?  If one blogger says he sees no end in site, do you feel compelled to bash them?  If so, how many blogs do you and the folks who think along the same lines bash on a daily basis, cause I know Alstry ain't the only one saying such things.

It must be the third person narration.  If that is what justifies so much attention, redneckdemon henceforth avows to only post in the third person, so as to boost his recs.

Redneckdemon wishes you a nice day, and may an errent penny lodge itself in a senstive location on or near your person.  This may possibly involve copious amounts of green Jello, and a mullet.

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#25) On March 09, 2009 at 11:56 AM, redneckdemon (< 20) wrote:

Redneckdemon hopes some of you might forgive his spelling mistakes.  It is almost 1AM here in Japan, and Redneckdemon has been drinking heavily.

This in no way invalidates the opinions stated in the post above, only begs your understanding for terrible spelling.

Texas Public School education, what can I say?

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#26) On March 09, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Mary953 (83.45) wrote:

I was admittedly puzzled.  I folowed links that dropped me squarely in the middle of the comment section of this blog and I really did not know why.  It took reading the entire blog down to this point to realize that the link was to the references made by Donnernv in comment #23.  The SERIOUS economic references.  I am no longer confused as to why a link in a solid blog would have dropped me into this one.

Now I am baffled by another concept.  So, Alstry, you are the very epitome (top, the absolute best-of-the-best) of good sportsmanship.  You would never, ever, not in your wildest dreams, not on a dare, not even for a second dream of insulting anyone.  You are just engaging in a little honorable smack talk, done with character and respect...And by your own decree, smacking those below....that is a bit cowardly don't you think?   Alstry only smacked talked those much higher scores or popularity than him, those with a foundation ... able to take it. 

According to your pretentious third party writing,   Alstry is all about trying your hardest and being the best you can be... For Alstry, that means only smacking a player with a higher score, rating, or popularity in a particular area at the time.  Use your own set of standards.

Alstry, when I was new here and new to blogging in general, you attacked ... sorry, smacked me down,  I was (and still am not) higher in any of these areas.  At the time, I had not been around long enough for people to even know if I was a person or another pseudo-identity.  The big mistake I made was that I enjoyed reading your blogs.  (a thing does not become trite or cliched until you have seen it a multitude of times. 

My new question is this, sir.  Which area was I superior in...points, popularity, posting blogs, ratings, score?  You see, I can expand upon your list, and still not be on common ground with you at any point or on any level.  At least it was a ~~~~~Compliment~~~~~~~~!

Peace, out!


Oh, and I also look forward to the lovely day that you reach your goal of #1.


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