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Ever wonder if some members of the CAPs game are on a payroll?

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June 06, 2009 – Comments (28)

I don't offer this as a heavy handed accusation or with the intent of starting some significant argument, nor with the intent of insulting any given CAPs member.

But anybody else ever wonder if some members of CAPs are on a payroll of some kind?  For that matter, anybody else willing to believe that certain things that go on on various Yahoo message boards AREN'T related to certain posters or others being on a payroll?

That is all.

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#1) On June 06, 2009 at 6:07 PM, alstry (35.02) wrote:

I have wondered that often.

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#2) On June 06, 2009 at 7:12 PM, devoish (99.10) wrote:

Yes, often.

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#3) On June 06, 2009 at 7:18 PM, chk999 (99.98) wrote:

I'd be surprised if some weren't

When someone joins with the company name or symbol as part of their user name, makes a few stock picks including that stock, touts the stock everywhere they can and then disapears, we either have someone with really strange OCD, or it was worth it to them somehow.

I know what my vote is.

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#4) On June 06, 2009 at 7:36 PM, EggplantWizard (99.58) wrote:

I think that many are -- it would surprise me somewhat if active members with balanced picks are part of a payroll.

I shall say nothing more, so as to prevent Abitaire from starting the GoodVibe must be working for Direxion thread.

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#5) On June 06, 2009 at 7:39 PM, RonChapmanJr (96.66) wrote:

I've never thought this despite being on CAPS for a couple of years now.  Have anyone in particular in mind?  If you are going to post about this, you might as well step up and name names.

ron

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#6) On June 06, 2009 at 7:51 PM, portefeuille (99.57) wrote:

I am from the PPT.

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#7) On June 06, 2009 at 7:53 PM, portefeuille (99.57) wrote:

(subdivision EMEA)

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#8) On June 06, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Tastylunch (29.48) wrote:

I'm 100% sure that there are based off some of the comments thrown my way when I analyze a POS .OB stock, but the nice thing is the PR attempts almost always fail.

 I've noticed many players who only pick one stock and hype it too.

The importnat thing is CAPS renders them ineffectual here as far as I can tell.

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#9) On June 06, 2009 at 11:12 PM, russiangambit (29.47) wrote:

I am somewhat prone to conspiracy theories. But I am not on board with this one. I haven't seen any evidence that any of the most frequent bloggers act in favor of some entity.

I do agree that yahoo message boards are horrible and are full of trolls. It seems most of the posts there are made by folks under 18.

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#10) On June 07, 2009 at 12:12 AM, zzlangerhans (99.74) wrote:

I think the concept that a message board poster or blogger can affect a share price is extremely silly. Even well-respected and widely read journalists rarely have that ability. The pumper trolls are just obnoxious small-time retail investors who are harboring the same delusions of grandeur as the conspiracy theorists above.

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#11) On June 07, 2009 at 12:18 AM, checklist34 (99.73) wrote:

ron:  i don't have any particular names from caps, just a question something must have inspired earlier.

zz:  i would also think it silly to believe that trolling a message board here, but in at least one case, someone thinks its worth something.  On the yahoo message board for ACAS any post thats positive about ACAS, and many other posts, will typically get dozens of 1 star votes within a matter of minutes to hours during market hours.  A negative post about ACAS may get positive votes.

On yahoo message boards the default for reading posts is 2 stars and up (the 1 starred posts are invisible), so I can only conclude that somebody doesn't want people to read about ACAS. 

And I can only conclude that this has to be a commercial endeavor as I cannot imagine anybody doing something on such a scale (this is probably 10's of thousands of 1 star votes by now) just for kicks. 

Here on the CAPs game, the only thing that would strike me as a possible conspiracy theory (although faded out somewhat lately, perhaps?) is the overwhelming and very zealous gang of hyper bears.  It wasn't that long ago that posting anything non-bearish here resulted in you being called an idiot or worse.  Which very likely dissuaded some individual investor passers-by and prevented them from making a huge pile of money since march.  But other than that I can't see a whole lot of pumping going on, and I'm not saying thats "pumping" or paid or anything.

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#12) On June 07, 2009 at 12:24 AM, portefeuille (99.57) wrote:

Which very likely dissuaded some individual investor passers-by and prevented them from making a huge pile of money since march.

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#29) On May 15, 2009 at 3:26 PM, camistocks (83.52) wrote:

So this is it... We worship the top tens and feel good... Americans love top tens...

Nobody cares about interesting blogs.

But hey we've got this nice guy called gmx... He continues to separate you from your money since early April... but still everybody loves him... ah well

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#13) On June 07, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Mary953 (63.08) wrote:

Aw, shucks!  Checklist, don't get my hopes up like that.  I bet I'm not the only one who thought, from your title, that CAPS had jobs available.  Darn.......and in this economy it would be so nice to get paid for doing things you do anyway.  Oh, well  --  Back to the blogs - - - - - - -

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#14) On June 07, 2009 at 2:10 PM, HarryCarysGhost (99.75) wrote:

Dude you really think I 'm a pumper. That's pretty funny.

I have the stock prices in my name cause that's what I owned at the time.

The only ulterior motive I have is to make money.

But I just thought I could have fun and educate myself by joining MF and make some cash at the same time

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#15) On June 07, 2009 at 5:54 PM, goldminingXpert (29.72) wrote:

Portefeuille--some reason you keep reposting a lie from Camistocks? I didn't start my series until April 30 and didn't offer trading advice to short the market until May. I called Camistocks on this lie and he didn't answer. Continuing to repost a lie is a deception in itself. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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I helped move Repros Therapeutics lower with my continuing research and report on the company. One person can move a crappy stock if they do a little digging.

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#16) On June 07, 2009 at 6:10 PM, portefeuille (99.57) wrote:

Portefeuille--some reason you keep reposting a lie from Camistocks? I didn't start my series until April 30 and didn't offer trading advice to short the market until May. I called Camistocks on this lie and he didn't answer. Continuing to repost a lie is a deception in itself. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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top lists are nonessential but since "Americans love top tens" ...

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On May 15, 2009 at 3:26 PM, camistocks (90.64) wrote:

So this is it... We worship the top tens and feel good... Americans love top tens...

Nobody cares about interesting blogs.

But hey we've got this nice guy called gmx... He continues to separate you from your money since early April... but still everybody loves him... ah well

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#8) On June 01, 2009 at 8:04 PM, camistocks (83.52) wrote:

Portefeuille - well yeah I was a bit frustrated that my blogs "only" get 15+ recs, while others who are still in college get a much higher rating. Or maybe I just should become a "feeder blogger" who is linking to other blogs not on CAPS and I will receive 15+ recs for doing nothing.  But I guess this is how it's got to be...

Great performance by your players! Personally I have never looked at CAPS as a game but to see if I can outperform the market over the long term. And maybe outperform most players too hehehe! Hey I was the top 10 for a day a year ago but fell back to a score of 2 during the crash in October... Yes it's probably a game... ;-)

 

awalleijr - hey I'm glad I called him a nice guy. Because his tender reply was that I am a "dirty liar". Now just imagine if I had called him a 20 year old college kid...

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#17) On June 07, 2009 at 6:13 PM, portefeuille (99.57) wrote:

On May 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, awallejr (63.13) wrote:

"we've got this nice guy called gmx"

"Nice" guy?

I wouldn't worry about ultimate rankings, only a few really care about it.  Just keep pumping out the content, it's all that I really care about.

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(also from here)

 

 

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#18) On June 07, 2009 at 6:14 PM, portefeuille (99.57) wrote:

okay, I think I will look for new funny quotations. I am done with that one (it is funny though ...)

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#19) On June 07, 2009 at 6:17 PM, portefeuille (99.57) wrote:

and this blog is about silly concepts after all (see comment #10 above) ...

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#20) On June 07, 2009 at 6:24 PM, portefeuille (99.57) wrote:

and this blog is about silly concepts after all (see comment #10 above) ...

just meant that as an excuse for me abusing this post.

I do apologise. Please go on with your discussion of the role of "paid" players.

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#21) On June 07, 2009 at 6:38 PM, kgeechee (< 20) wrote:

OH Yeah!  I believe that is Right On, old Porte buddy.  However, even though I agree wholeheartedly, I wonder why the message has to be repeated 3 times......so far.

Is your finger stuck on the SEND button while you are drinking your 8th beer?  I can agree with that too?

Shorts, by the way; Hang 'Em High and feed the remains to the vultures!

 

 

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#22) On June 07, 2009 at 6:40 PM, goldminingXpert (29.72) wrote:

kgeechee--come over here and eat my carcass--I'm hibernating, I swear. I won't hurt you.

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#23) On June 07, 2009 at 10:44 PM, checklist34 (99.73) wrote:

this is among my highest # of replies.  I think my highest # of rec's was the gold blog I didn't make.

I've little choice but to conclude that my thoughts aren't all that interesting, but people love to argue and debate.  Fair enough.

Mary, you can have my job, and in fact any of the rest of you are welcome to my job, which I will recommend you for and beg to be released from, if you can qualify.  Its fairly technical and so far no appropriate candidate to replace me has surfaced, but I'm dieing to be replaced.  lol

all situations, i guess, are different. 

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#24) On June 07, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Mary953 (63.08) wrote:

Checklist -

After skimming through the comments (and I wasn't here in April or even in October), I am left with a couple of thoughts.

Your thoughts are very interesting and this one had not occurred to me.  You couched it in a very specific manner, one that did NOT call out any single person.  You were very careful to phrase it as a question for debate.

I think you know I was kidding you,  If your job is at all technical, unless it involves research or searching, I'm probably not qualified.

Why is everybody always picking on gmx?

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#25) On June 08, 2009 at 10:20 PM, checklist34 (99.73) wrote:

i don't know if everybody is always picking on GMX or if he just likes to debate.  This is a guy who posted that it was a "fact" that bears were smarter than bulls once, a guy can't say stuff like that w/o expecting some debatish comments.  He is a rather forceful bear, not too open to alternate views nor particularily gracious to others who present them.  Goes with the territory, probably.

I know you were kidding, and my job is all technical, but its gotten mostly to the point where I was a few years ago a pioneer in a field breaking new ground quickly, and now thats resulted in commercial products and a growing industry, which results in my job going from breaking said new ground to repeatedly giving generic presentations to people who aren't quite sure if they care, and who are kind of at a ground zero technically.  Its alot more fun to break new ground and I want out out out out out out out.  lol

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#26) On June 08, 2009 at 11:08 PM, goldminingXpert (29.72) wrote:

The more they hate, the more you matter. Most people don't have stalkers following them around to bash them.

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#27) On June 09, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Seano67 (35.64) wrote:

I've little choice but to conclude that my thoughts aren't all that interesting

 

Oh I think your thoughts are very interesting, checklist. I always enjoy your blog posts. I like the way you break down and dissect your holdings and your moves in your real life portfolio, and explain your rationale and thought processes behind those things. And I appreciate your honesty, ya know, talking about the trades that didn't quite work so well and the missed opportunities as well as your successes. Many people talk only of their successes and never mention the failures, but some of my most valuable lessons have come through failure, and learning from that. I've made pleny of mistakes in investing. I find it to be a continual process of learning, and hopefully improving via experience.

 

So anyway, keep posting your blogs. I may not always feel the need to respond to them, but I always read them and I always rec them, because I always find something of value there. 

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#28) On June 09, 2009 at 5:34 PM, checklist34 (99.73) wrote:

no worries, GMX.  My goal is to make money in real life and - for example the stock BOOM which now makes up about 2% of my portfolio - CAPs has helped in ways with that.  In other ways its probably reduced my returns, who knows. 

Sean, that was very kind, I really do appreciate it.  I offer what I can and often in life I fail, so I offer that in those times.  I also hope that all the mistakes lead to a continual pattern of improvement, mistakes are only costly when you repeat them or don't learn from them, maybe a wise man said that once somewhre. 

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