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May 12, 2011 – Comments (7)

In the Agricultural Age, most Americans functioned as Farmers and Slaves.  When the Cotton Gin and Tractor was invented...the need for MOST farmers and slaves was eliminated.

This was a very convulsive period in American History because you had a nation where most of the population really had nothing to do.....so they did what comes naturally to most humans with idle time....they started to kill each other in a very uncivil Civil War.

After the Civil War....America's economy tranformed into an Industrial Economy.

We are now approaching a very similar period where we are transitioning from an Industrial Economy to a Digital Economy.  However, this time around, most Americans live and work in an Industrial functioning system.

And since there is really not much to lend to in the Industrial System....much of our nation is shutting down due to lack of credit and opportunity.  The question now is when we have tens of millions of people with nothing to do, will we kick the sh*t out of each other like we did about 150 years ago....or maybe we will start a war and try kick the snot out of others......

FARMERS AND SLAVES

Albuquerque Public Schools About 400 Job Cuts Expected

The San Francisco Public Schools CA - Voted to Cut 152 Jobs

Update: Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools NC - 739 Layoff Notices

The Polk County School District FL - Expects to Cut 261 Positions

The Indianapolis Public School - up to  357  Layoffs Expected to be Voted on

7 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On May 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM, catoismymotor (24.55) wrote:

In the Agricultural Age, most Americans functioned as Farmers and Slaves.  When the Cotton Gin and Tractor was invented...the need for MOST farmers and slaves was eliminated.

No. Wrong. Try again. Do some research before you wade into waters that are unknown to you.

This was a very convulsive period in American History because you had a nation where most of the population really had nothing to do.....so they did what comes naturally to most humans with idle time....they started to kill each other in a very uncivil Civil War.

My reply from above applies to this paragraph, too.

You keep trying to make points using a period of history in which you have repeatedly exhibited a lack of understanding.

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#2) On May 12, 2011 at 11:44 AM, alstry (35.42) wrote:

It actually applies PERFECTLY....

The vast majority of the American...and Global population functioned in Agriculture BEFORE the invention of the tractor...

now it is a very small percentage...and getting smaller with the improvement of technology including GPS farming...

 

AND NOW WE ARE FIRING MILLIONS of workers in the FIRE economy and government, education and health care economies...all Industrial Segments which employ the vast majority of the American workforce

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#3) On May 12, 2011 at 12:36 PM, catoismymotor (24.55) wrote:

It actually applies PERFECTLY....

You said, "When the Cotton Gin and Tractor was invented...the need for MOST farmers and slaves was eliminated." You are either so wrong through ingorance or a liar looking to stir the pot.

In your statement you seem to think that the tractor was the savior of enslaved people at the time of the Civil War. That is difficult since it was not invented until 1892, 27 years after the war ended.

You also stated that there was no need for slaves once the cotton gin was invinted. If that is so then why did the population of slaves increase from 700,000 to 2,500,000 from the time it was patented in 1796 to 1850?

Here is a little something for you to ruminate, according to the Eli Whitney Museum site:

Whitney (who died in 1825) could not have foreseen the ways in which his invention would change society for the worse. The most significant of these was the growth of slavery. While it was true that the cotton gin reduced the labor of removing seeds, it did not reduce the need for slaves to grow and pick the cotton. In fact, the opposite occurred. Cotton growing became so profitable for the planters that it greatly increased their demand for both land and slave labor. In 1790 there were six slave states; in 1860 there were 15. From 1790 until Congress banned the importation of slaves from Africa in 1808, Southerners imported 80,000 Africans. By 1860 approximately one in three Southerners was a slave.

Please elevate your game or step to the side. Lies do not flatter us on TMF.

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#4) On May 12, 2011 at 12:46 PM, kirkydu (93.60) wrote:

I think Al's point is that in times of major transition, disaffected people often resort to violence.  Pretty simple.

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#5) On May 12, 2011 at 12:56 PM, catoismymotor (24.55) wrote:

When he backs up his point with lies/grievous factual errors he must be called on it. His castles will not stand when he chooses to build them on sand.

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#6) On May 12, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Starfirenv (< 20) wrote:

Rec for Cato. Chicken Little needs a good "plucking" every once in a while. Well done.

Time to start a new one Al. Maybe about the Dow 4000 and $1000 oil. Wasn't that a certainty, what, two years ago?

Besides, shouldn't you be "hawking" your cheap Chinese blems, seconds, and discontinued Udder crap?

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#7) On May 12, 2011 at 1:06 PM, mtf00l (45.85) wrote:

kirkydu,

If that was Alstry's point, he should have said it.  Without the "artistic license".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artistic_license

catoismymotor,

I love facts, thanks!  Did you read the thread;

http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/americans-cant-be-this-stupid/588766?

 

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