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September 09, 2008 – Comments (24)

Now that's what they call "relentless reform."

Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a "per diem" allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.

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#1) On September 09, 2008 at 11:08 AM, FoolishChemist (96.88) wrote:

In the past, per diem claims by Alaska state officials have carried political risks. In 1988, the head of the state Commerce Department was pilloried for collecting a per diem charge of $50 while staying in his Anchorage home, according to local news accounts. The commissioner, the late Tony Smith, resigned amid a series of controversies.

"It was quite the little scandal," said Tony Knowles, the Democratic governor from 1994 to 2000. "I gave a direction to all my commissioners if they were ever in their house, whether it was Juneau or elsewhere, they were not to get a per diem because, clearly, it is and it looks like a scam -- you pay yourself to live at home," he said.

On the bright side, she only has one home :-)

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#2) On September 09, 2008 at 11:33 AM, wrote:

Why aren't the Republicians talking about the economy, health car, the housing crisis, credit crisis? 

Why because they are all paid off by big oil.

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#3) On September 09, 2008 at 11:34 AM, LordZ wrote:

Palin, who earns $125,000 a year, claimed and received $16,951 as her allowance, which officials say was permitted because her official "duty station" is Juneau, according to an analysis of her travel documents by The Washington Post.

I think the letting go of the executive chef alone clearly blows expensing $16,951 also the sale of that jet, puff daddy a multi millionaire has also switched to flying on airlines.

Heck the former mayor of Detroit had the city easily pay that weekly on his expenses: meals, bodyguards, shopping, and police escorts.

Is it really reasonable to expect that she took 312 days off ? or was she working, traveling, incurring expenses.

Bur hey why don't we just drag her out and stone her.

 

 

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#4) On September 09, 2008 at 11:49 AM, LordZ wrote:

Yeah yeah yeah, lets blame big oil. midwestinvestor

 

 

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#5) On September 09, 2008 at 12:15 PM, dinodelaurentis (74.60) wrote:

TMFBent,

i have passed over this blog several times today (having read it earlier) and have witheld my thoughts.

But one of the above comments ("johnny did it too!") relects the very nature of Gov. Palin's supporters.

THEY DON"T DO NUANCE.

while i admire the vastness of hypocritical behavior coming from alaska (and it is vast indeed), the revelations don't affect the party faithful. per diems ain't sticking to the wall. facts don't matter. all theories are good. they don't get The Magnificence of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, even if they are Touched By His Pastaness.

many folks just refuse to see the "hope-to-be-emperor's" new clothes. heck, they can describe them in detail, the weave, the stiching, the fashionable cut, the jaunty angle of the hat. they are loyal to the party because they are scared. scared of the war, the market, their standing, and people's perception of their standing. scared of the unknown so they tell you what will happen. they project their fears foward and see apocolypse. they they see the election as validation for all their fears,so they chant, they yell and urge their side on.

like it was some sort of game with no real consequence.

or a lynch mob.

it's emotional. because they're scared.

just like their party wants.

i don't have any idea on how to address that, do you?

i'd like to support the incumbent party in this presidential race.

but i haven't lost my gag reflex yet.

don't plan on losing it in the next 60 days or so.

 

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#6) On September 09, 2008 at 12:23 PM, ricoy5 (25.86) wrote:

Is it really reasonable to expect that she took 312 days off ? or was she working, traveling, incurring expenses.

Bur hey why don't we just drag her out and stone her.

No stoning, LordZ... but it would be nice if a VP cantidate wouldn't claim to be a reformer and "fighter of waste" and then DEFRAUD her state.  (and if you think it's not fraud, try to claim expense reimbursement from your work, while staying at home)

Per diem, is Latin for "per day" or "for each day". It usually refers to the daily rate of any kind of payment. It may also refer to a specific amount of money that an organization allows an individual to spend per day, to cover living and travelling expenses in connection with work. It is the allowance given to the employee/worker for completing a task or going on tour away from home.  (emphasis added)

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#7) On September 09, 2008 at 12:26 PM, ricoy5 (25.86) wrote:

Is it really reasonable to expect that she took 312 days off ? or was she working, traveling, incurring expenses.

Bur hey why don't we just drag her out and stone her.

No stoning, LordZ... but it would be nice if a VP cantidate wouldn't claim to be a reformer and "fighter of waste" and then DEFRAUD her state.  (and if you think it's not fraud, try to claim expense reimbursement from your work, while staying at home)

Per diem, is Latin for "per day" or "for each day". It usually refers to the daily rate of any kind of payment. It may also refer to a specific amount of money that an organization allows an individual to spend per day, to cover living and travelling expenses in connection with work. It is the allowance given to the employee/worker for completing a task or going on tour away from home.  (emphasis added)

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#8) On September 09, 2008 at 12:32 PM, TMFBent (99.81) wrote:

i don't have any idea on how to address that, do you? 

Hmmm. I suppose asking people to read, then report on the emperor's new clothes would be a bit overly pedantic. Shall we just ask for divine, noodly intervention?

Besides, this will all be cleared up when the entire American public is required to take a loyalty test a la that Wasilla Librarian... 

Hey, all I know is that next time I stay at a friend or acquaintance's home while traveling for Fool business, I'm going to charge the company some money, even though I paid zilch. Oh, wait, I'd probably get fired for that... because it's sleazy and doesn't pass the sniff test even remotely (like my kitchen garbage this morning)...

Nothing for it except to get what I deserve. I'm going to bring those Alaskan rules over to our finance department and get things made right around here!

Sj

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#9) On September 09, 2008 at 1:41 PM, dinodelaurentis (74.60) wrote:

HA! good one, dude.

but you know that the rules are not the same for those in power. the law is equal, yes, in that they forbid both the rich and the poor from sleeping under bridges.i mean they've been pardoning convicted felons (and in one spectacular case, before they were convicted) since the 70's. and it still happens 34 years later.SOP.

we may need noodely intervention.

OR a viral moment. that would be nice.

but i don't think that reasoned debate is working.but WTF do i know? facts just don't seem to matter and shame doesn't exist any more.

maybe the Net might help. there is always the rule of "unintended consequence". people have a way of not doing what they're supposed to when you hand them a new toy.

like a new democracy. :D

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#10) On September 09, 2008 at 2:58 PM, TMFBent (99.81) wrote:

And here's the real story on the Bridge To Nowhere, which was, contrary to the claims of the relentless reformer, not killed by her. And she kep the pork anyway.

But Gov. Palin's claim comes with a serious caveat. She endorsed the multimillion dollar project during her gubernatorial race in 2006. And while she did take part in stopping the project after it became a national scandal, she did not return the federal money. She just allocated it elsewhere.

"We need to come to the defense of Southeast Alaska when proposals are on the table like the bridge," Gov. Palin said in August 2006, according to the local newspaper, "and not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that's so negative." The bridge would have linked Ketchikan to the airport on Gravina Island. Travelers from Ketchikan (pop. 7,500) now rely on ferries.

A year ago, the governor issued a press release that the money for the project was being "redirected."

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#11) On September 09, 2008 at 3:03 PM, JoeandChuckP (77.33) wrote:

So 16+K over 312 days = 54 bucks  day. 

I suspect that it is really unlikely she was trying to get rich, or bilk, at 54 bucks a day. 

A per diem, at least at my company, doesn't cover hotel.  Just food.  So three meals at 54 bucks = 18 bucks a meal.  Wow, she raped her

So, lets be fair.  Where's Bidens per diems or equivalents?  How about Barack?

CP

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#12) On September 09, 2008 at 3:03 PM, JoeandChuckP (77.33) wrote:

So 16+K over 312 days = 54 bucks  day. 

I suspect that it is really unlikely she was trying to get rich, or bilk, at 54 bucks a day. 

A per diem, at least at my company, doesn't cover hotel.  Just food.  So three meals at 54 bucks = 18 bucks a meal.  Wow, she raped her

So, lets be fair.  Where's Bidens per diems or equivalents?  How about Barack?

CP

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#13) On September 09, 2008 at 3:58 PM, TMFBent (99.81) wrote:

Got it. Doesn't cost so, much therefore no big deal, even for the relentless reformer.

I'll take the $54 a day at taxpayer expense too. Anyone know where the signup is?

 

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#14) On September 09, 2008 at 11:59 PM, GS751 (27.40) wrote:

Guy's Guy's Guy's you are missing the point..... Alan Abelson gets it.  you must focus on Palin's 2 best political assets.  1. She's younger than Obama. 2. She is much much prettier than Dick Cheney.

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#15) On September 10, 2008 at 12:27 AM, dinodelaurentis (74.60) wrote:

don't know about that.

dick's pretty hot!

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#16) On September 10, 2008 at 12:48 AM, eldemonio (98.62) wrote:

Hypothetically speaking, if I were to ask you to remove this blog and comments from CAPS, would you have a problem with that?

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#17) On September 10, 2008 at 11:41 AM, JoeandChuckP (77.33) wrote:

@Bent

So you're positive that it was done only in her home?  Not traveling between locations? 

Much like at my company, if the accounting office doens't like it, they could reject.  Is it possible that the charges were valid?

So, can your candidate get me one of those super sweet deals on property like he got? 

How about sticking with his pledge to use public fund v private for the campaign?  Oh, since he's a star now, he can get more, so why not? 

He aint O'Saint, either.

 

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#18) On September 10, 2008 at 3:48 PM, xserver (< 20) wrote:

Government accounting is a strange thing.  I used to work for a defense company and all travel expenses were allocated a per diem whether they were incurred or not. 

I ate a bowl of cereal in my hotel room for breakfast, but still put the $12 (or whatever it was then) for breakfast on my expense report because the accounting people told me to.

When on the airplane, I charged the lunch per diem even though  I got a meal there.

 A couple times  I didn't go home for the weekend and did some sightseeing and charged all my hotel, meals and car rental to the company (who in turns bills the government).  The logic was that either they pay to fly me home or pay my expenses to stay.

 None of this is fraudulent. I always checked with the accounting people to make sure it was all legit.  Now if  I decided to run for office I could see people digging this stuff up and making headlines over it.

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#19) On September 10, 2008 at 3:49 PM, xserver (< 20) wrote:

Government accounting is a strange thing.  I used to work for a defense company and all travel expenses were allocated a per diem whether they were incurred or not. 

I ate a bowl of cereal in my hotel room for breakfast, but still put the $12 (or whatever it was then) for breakfast on my expense report because the accounting people told me to.

When on the airplane, I charged the lunch per diem even though  I got a meal there.

 A couple times  I didn't go home for the weekend and did some sightseeing and charged all my hotel, meals and car rental to the company (who in turns bills the government).  The logic was that either they pay to fly me home or pay my expenses to stay.

 None of this is fraudulent. I always checked with the accounting people to make sure it was all legit.  Now if  I decided to run for office I could see people digging this stuff up and making headlines over it.

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#20) On September 11, 2008 at 8:49 AM, TMFBent (99.81) wrote:

JoanAndChuck,

You need to do a little homework before you call Obama "my candidate." Search this blog and you'll see what I think of his crooked land deals.

Xserver,

"Now if  I decided to run for office I could see people digging this stuff up and making headlines over it. "

You can be guaranteed they would if you were running for office and touting pork-chopping as your biggest strength.

Sj

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#21) On September 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, FleaBagger (29.02) wrote:

SJ -

It's pretty obvious where your political tendencies are when you spend more effort attacking a conservative for $54 per diem than you spend on a liberal who used a land deal to take a bribe from a convicted felon with mob connections, or his running mate who funnels gov't support to his lobbyist son.

More striking is that the woman you search Left Post for dirt on is the one of the four people closest to White House 2009 who is by far closest to your previous statements about economic policy.

The bridge thing is more disturbing than the per diem, I'll grant you...

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#22) On September 11, 2008 at 12:51 PM, TMFBent (99.81) wrote:

fb, do more homework. there are far more criticisms of obama on this blog than there are of palin.

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#23) On September 16, 2008 at 8:37 AM, BradAllenton (31.39) wrote:

Don't forget the tanning bed in the Gov. Mansion. haahaha The mindless followers of the GOP are amazing. It's all about how bad the DEMs are, completely failing to notice how bad the GOP has Fckd up the country.   

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#24) On September 23, 2008 at 11:59 AM, suntzu777 (< 20) wrote:

both parties are responsiable for taking money out of your paycheck each week. They are running a carnie scam and the american tax payer is the rube walking down the middle of the board walk. No matter which side you choose , no matter what attraction you see, no matter whom you support. at the end of the evening when they have both fleeced the american tax payer for all he is worth, they split up the money evenly at behind the tent when the carnival is over. Both sides are robbing the american taxpayer blind. What we need is a good qualified 3rd party canadate so the other two have to have some kind of accountablity. I didn't want Obama or Mcain as a presidential canadate i think both of them stink on ice. But as long as it remains a 2 party system i have to take what ever crummy choice big bussiness gives me because remember people it costs 100 million dollars just to lose a presidential contest and even more to win it. and who supplies the 100 million ? corporate america

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