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Found Literature--Blog Scavenger Hunt



December 03, 2010 – Comments (99) | RELATED TICKERS: MFGLQ.DL , LIT

After drinking my first cup of coffee this morning, I thought of a fun and educational exercise to do on Motley Fool.

In the midst of stock pitches, investing commentary, political thoughts, and life observations, one is sometimes surprised by literature, or something with literary potential. 

Let the scavenger hunt begin: Support foolanthropy by linking the following things or listing the author.

1. Blog that could also be titled The Mayor's Wife's Tale.

2. Blog that refers to the story about the bottle imp.

4. Article that discusses a sinister example of "ars dictaminis" in use for over 90 years.

5. Allegories.

6. Extended Metaphors.

7. Poetry. Name one of our haiku poets: we have at least three.

*** Extra credit for any other special literary elements or genres correctly identified and linked.  

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#1) On December 03, 2010 at 10:40 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I willl do one. Biography from Devoish

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#2) On December 03, 2010 at 10:59 AM, brickcityman (< 20) wrote:

I was thinking of nominating some of my stuff in the "extended metaphors" category, but I consider it untoward.


Instead I'll give a shout out to one of our Haiku poets (bg11235) here's a link to a recent post.


Also I think HollywoodDan (whose name always makes me think of this scene) should get special mention...  While his cartoon series may not qualify as literature it is certainly entertaining and he usually posts some thought provoking pieces as well.


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#3) On December 03, 2010 at 11:58 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #2 Three right answers in one reply--not bad!

I was thinking of you when I chose the extended metaphor category. :)

Yes, bg11235 is one of our very own poets.

As for HollywoodDan, I think his cartoon series is an example of satire, more specifically the political cartoon. This genre has a long, illustrious, and "illustrated" tradition.

Good call!

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#4) On December 03, 2010 at 12:12 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I'll do another one that I enjoyed. Allegory by zloj

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#5) On December 03, 2010 at 12:24 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Just to clarify my own entries, don't count towards winning this Scavenger Hunt. They are merely to encourage continued participation.

So far Brickcity is in the lead with 7 points. (I gave him extra credit for his mention of Hollywood Dan's cartoon.)

jiejula gets 1 point for the spam example. Could spam be considered commercial propoganda?

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#6) On December 03, 2010 at 12:27 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I interrupt this thread to give a grammar disclaimer. I'm much better at literature than grammar. My punctuation seems problematic today. One should not separate a subject from a verb with a comma!

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#7) On December 03, 2010 at 4:36 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I will continue checking this blog. Hopefully, it will be less of a monologue soon. That is a literary form all too common!

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#8) On December 03, 2010 at 9:37 PM, devoish (76.68) wrote:

Fun idea. I am glad you enjoyed the Mother Jones biography. Err... Autobiography ;-)

After my copy and paste there are two and one half more sections in the link to the original source.

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#9) On December 04, 2010 at 12:01 AM, BroadwayDan (98.02) wrote:

Very glad and honored to be named in this righteous thread. And Brickcity - that submarine tushy shot was world class. 

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#10) On December 04, 2010 at 9:38 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #9 devoish, 1 point for you. As we all know, accuracy is part of the score :). The use of first person singular should have clued me in that Mother Jones was sharing her own story.

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#11) On December 04, 2010 at 9:50 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #10 I appreciate your work, not only for its thought provoking content, but also for the fact that you can draw!

I realized quickly that drawing was not my talent when my sketch of someone turned out looking like Frankenstein which was not my intention.  

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#12) On December 06, 2010 at 7:53 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

This scavenger hunt isn't only for literary genres, but also literary elements. I found a great example of personification in the title of a blog also written on December 3.


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#13) On December 06, 2010 at 8:56 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Here is the example of personification I meant.

Dear Mr. Market! He finds his way into numerous articles and blogs. He is unpredictable, sometimes lovable, but often frustrating. I picture him as a rotund, practical joker with an odd way of walking, mostly skipping, but sometimes crawling, or leaping backwards. He is fond of wearing t-shirts which say things like "Oil forever" or "Hold GOLD." He is extremely trendy for his age and his hair is always spiked.

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#14) On December 06, 2010 at 11:05 AM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

OK, I hope I'm not too late... I've found allegory from bravobevo:

And you didn't ask for satire, probably because it would be the easiest thing to find.  But here's a pitch from Albert911 on Freddie Mac that made me laugh (I'm pasting it in because I don't know how to link to it.  It was made 8/11/09):

Finally bought my 1st shares of Freddie Mac (FRE) shares today
WOW, I have been following this stock for a long long time and I decided NOW was the best time to buy.
I was lucky I bought my shares for $1.80
I was worried I would miss out since it has been steadily climbing since week.
My Mom has all of her retirement in FRE stocks and she was getting a little worried, but this morning I told her "Don't worry Ma, it's gonna be OK. FRE is getting of conservatorship and you will start to get your dividend checks very soon."
And it can't be soon enough.
Ma needs a new hip. She broke it about 10 years ago after test driving a Pontiac Aztec..... It was just too low to the ground for her...
So anyway... to make a long story short... I cashed out the rest of the remaining equity line on my house today and bought shares.
Never mind that I am underwater on my first mortgage (damn interest only loan), but I figure with what I make off this stock, I will be just fine. My broker wasn't too thrilled and he actually tried to discourage me...
I am guessing he just didn't want me to get in on a good thing!
I mean come on....he works behind a desk at a bank... and not a very good bank either (formerly WAMU) so what does he know!
So the way I am figuring.... by the time this stock soars, I will have made enough money to buy a 2010 or 2011 Hummer H3! It's higher off the ground, so Ma can get in it easier (on account of her bad hip). I am just happy gas prices are back down below $4 a gallon FOR GOOD now too (thank you Mr. President).
I am just SO SO excited that I was able to get in on this deal in time........gosh.... I just don't know what to do next..... Maybe I will buy a time-share in Detroit!


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#15) On December 06, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

How, oh how could I have missed this?  What fun!

Would alliteration be considered a special enough literary element?  If so, then our Zombulating Zombulator should qualify.

Ultralong has 30 Haikus (Haiku's, Haiki?) here -

ZZlangerhans has the story of the Bottle Imp at

How far back can we go?  Does satire count?  If so, I want to add DaretothRedux to your list.  This is not his SATIRICAL best but I really enjoy the concept - 

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#16) On December 06, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

I am hunting a mayor's wife but so far can find only a mayor, a deputy mayor, and a rabbi.  No, that isn't a joke.  It is Carcassgrinder's blog found here

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#17) On December 06, 2010 at 12:42 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

puccini30005, thank you for your contributions.

One point for the allegory and five points for the satire. Extra credit for mentioning a genre I didn't list on this blog.

You are right that satire is very popular on Motley Fool. Perhaps, the company name is an inspiration to us. The king's fool was nothing if not satirical.


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#18) On December 06, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

Ars dictaminis was defined for me by Wikipedia as the prose convention of rhetoric by the art of writing letters.  My first discovery was an article on letters written by CEOs of major corporations.  The article drew the conclusion that CEOs that were able to express themselves in a clear fashion led companies that were more prosperous.  (Stop laughing, lemoneater)  This could be an example of a Motley Fool article covering prose by writing letters, but the 90 years was a bit of a stretch for an electronics company.

I tried again.

I found an article by Nick Kapur in which he details something called the 419 or the advance-fee letter.  It has worked extremely well for the last 90 years.  The article title has nothing to do with any of the CEOs in the first article.  It is entitled Conversations with a Nigerian scam artist.  (Now, lemoneater, you can laugh at me.)  That was not what I was expecting - not by a long shot.

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#19) On December 06, 2010 at 1:02 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #16 Alliteration certainly counts as a literary element. (Sometimes it is overused, but that is another matter entirely.) One point for that. (I don't have the math skills or the time to figure out how many instances of alliteration we can find doing an Astrylogical study:)

Yes, you named another one of our haiku poets, Ultralong. Another point. (Anybody know what the plural for haiku should be?)

Hooray, you found the bottle imp story! That was one of my favorite literary allusions ever. Another point.

Since puccini30005 mentioned satire first he got the extra credit, but you still got a point for Daretoth's blog. (There are too many examples of satire on his blog alone for me to give all the points you would deserve for separate instances of satire.) 


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#20) On December 06, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

Lemoneater, you are psychic!  In an article posted Dec 5, 2010, there is a discussion of the election in Venezuela.  It includes as the "big prize" the mayorship of Maracaibo which pits Pro-Chavez candidate Gian Carlos Di Martino against Eveling Trejo, wife of the city's former mayor, Manuel Rosales.

I would have had to wait for the article to come out before referencing it!  (That wasn't the one you had in mind now, was it?)

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#21) On December 06, 2010 at 1:19 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #17 That is not the blog about the Mayor's wife, but nevertheless it illustrates an extremely common genre nobody has mentioned yet by name. I will give you five points for journalism.


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#22) On December 06, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

I was looking for a fast metaphor or something since I have to leave for a bit.  I knew there was one in a comment here

The blog is written in the style of Earl Pitts by friend Dare.  The comment I wanted and the style element that I am blanking on at the moment is this one (perhaps you can help me out - my mind has stopped working) -

Why, Dare, honey,

Good to see ya in such good form, friend!  Don't know bout this Pitts fella, he ain't from round chere.  I do know good-ole-country common sense when I hear it though, son.  You have a good relax an try not to get yoreself all riled up now.  You know, I was watchin the Tee Vee this weekend and there was a bunch o people with farm tools outside o some big ole houses mad about some aig money.  Seems tha fellas that lived in tha big houses charged some folks a million dollars for some aigs  (how much do ya suppose they paid for tha chickens?)  Anyway, I think we ought ta find out how much those chickens cost and where you get em and go into the butter-an-aig business ourselves!

Yore friend,


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#23) On December 06, 2010 at 2:11 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #19 I was thinking of Nick Kapur's article Conversations with a Nigerian Scam artist. Hooray! One point. (Some points are harder to get than others!)

I think I had better only give credit for one ars dictaminis reference per person, but the article about CEO's letter writing ability is a wonderful find.

I should have had the point system worked out first to prevent confusion or inequities. Grading is hard!

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#24) On December 06, 2010 at 4:36 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #20 No, I'm not psychic! That's not the mayor's wife I had in mind. This mayor's wife owned her own construction business and was a billionaire.

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#25) On December 06, 2010 at 4:50 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #22 I haven't read or watched Earl Pitts. Every now and then I find gaps in my education:) 

Your sample is an example of the use of dialect. I'd have to research to know whether it should be called regionalism or local color. Mark Twain and Bret Harte made it popular in American lit. Another point!  

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#26) On December 07, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

Well finally!  Check out the time on this entry, lemoneater.  I don't even know which ID I am under any more.  By the time I found this, I knew I was looking for Inteko, the mayor of Moscow and his wife (Elena), I had their names, her bio, and the scandal that had ensued.  All I needed was to find from zlog with one comment from you.  Are you aware that this whole thing started back in 2006?  You just don't throw down like that to a reference librarian.  I may have retired from that field, but I still cannot leave a puzzle alone.  Now what have I still got to find?

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#27) On December 07, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

And can I get a point for a blog (any blog) about YUM (onomatopoeia) or do I have to go with Zoom, Zoom, Zumiez?

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#28) On December 07, 2010 at 11:02 AM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

Got any love for idioms? Here's a blog abounding with them, courtesy of UltraLong:

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#29) On December 07, 2010 at 12:25 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #26 I didn't mean for anyone to lose any sleep on my scavenger hunt. WOW! Your dedication is phenomenal. Another hard won point.

A modern day Chaucer could take several of zloj's blogs and find material to make the Moscow Tales.  The Wife of Bath=The Mayor's Wife, and so forth. Human nature really is the same regardless of cultural setting.

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#30) On December 07, 2010 at 12:31 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #27 :) Yum and Zoom. Either one would count. Five points for mentioning onomatopoeia. Vroommm! You are racking up the points.

Headlines are a great place to find literary elements.

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#31) On December 07, 2010 at 12:35 PM, starbucks4ever (92.59) wrote:


Aesop's fables prove that human nature does not change. The mayor and his wife might well have been a US senator and the CEO of an investment bank in which that senator is going to land a job when he retires from politics.

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#32) On December 07, 2010 at 12:43 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #28 Idioms are fair game. Five more points for you:).

When I was in grad school, I had a roommate from Barcelona. She knew several languages like most Europeans I've met, but she was particularly intrigued with American idioms. I told her several, but later I wish I hadn't. She kept using them at me in conversation. Finally, I had enough and said to her "Do whatever floats your cradle." (Of the two of us, she was the sweeter girl so she wasn't offended.)


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#33) On December 07, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

No points needed for these - I was given a 20 pound turkey to cook and while I prepped it, I spent the mental time thinking of possibles -

Yellow Journalism - about 85% of Alstry's posts.  Definitely sensationalist journalism there.

Since some of these are either mine or things I followed, I cannot get the credit, but how about this  as an example of the interview technique.  Check the video.  It will make you smile.

I went looking for an example of a specific White Paper - one of the best I have seen is printed in a blog somewhere in a comment by Donnernv.  He provides a link to it in this blog of his:  The topic is nuclear power and the paper is excellent, well-researched, and timely.  Also, while Donnernv calls himself a self-professed curmudgeon, I enjoy the variety of his blogs a great deal and he is a true gentleman in defense of those who are attacked.

Then there is the call and response format, and that brings us back to Ultralong - now known as TMFUltralong. is one of the most rec'd blogs of the year (still) although it was written in Feb, 2010.  At almost 2200 comments, it shows that if you know what you are talking about, people will listen!

There is a Special Foolanthropy version of Ask a blunt man here for those that didn't get in the first time around.

Now what else was there?



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#34) On December 07, 2010 at 12:53 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ # 31 Thanks for dropping by, zloj. Five points for your mention of fables. That particular genre has not been listed until now :).

You are right. Certain stories have universal truths.That is why the story of the Mayor's Wife really resonated with me. I've met her before under other guises. 

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#35) On December 07, 2010 at 1:31 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #33 Ah, yes, Yellow Journalism. That is a genre all its own. I must mention Nellie Bly as one of the early greats in sensational reporting. ( I don't know whether to categorize this genre under non-fiction or fiction.)

I will watch the interview later. That is an important practical form of business communication.

The White Paper is "an authoritative report on a specific issue." I looked that term up in Wiki since I wanted a concise definition rather than a vague idea. (Should be a non-fiction work or we are in trouble.)

Call and Response is a very common form of communication in business and in education. It requires knowlege and patience on the part of the responder. Go TMFUltraLong! 

Since you said not to give you any points for this. I will just say that you would have had 20 points from this alone if I had kept score.



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#36) On December 07, 2010 at 2:08 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #33 I think the only thing left on the list was finding the third Haiku poet. Extra credit is still wide open :)

We have found bg11235 and UltraLong, but we need to find one more poet. 

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#37) On December 07, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

While this could go under biography, I prefer to see it under history. In either case, it is a fascinating blog.

And I should have had someone wake me up on this one. Most people call it an index. If it is books only, it is a bibliography and a librarian is expected to be able to help you compile one. It is my stock in trade here at CAPS! Here is one for any new folks that wander this way -

Okay, I confess, I used this blog to offer that last one to anyone who hasn't seen it and needs it - until I get a chance to update after the first of the year.

There is also the good old-fashioned rant.  Outoffocus has a good one with a link that angered her. I read the link and began a rant of my own on another area of that same link. 

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#38) On December 07, 2010 at 2:48 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

$3.70 for foolanthropy. I'm encouraged.

Incidentally "foolanthropy" is a portemanteau term.


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#39) On December 07, 2010 at 3:04 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #37 I think I would categorize America's Luckiest Idiot as humor and history both. Another great find.

Some things are so familiar we cease to think about them. As a filing cabinent is to documents so an index is to topics.  With a blogosphere of this size a GPS that finds a starting location is invaluable. Thanks!

I think rants serve a similar purpose to Greek plays. They provide catharsis and we feel better. (That is if we agree with the one who is ranting and in this case I do.)



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#40) On December 07, 2010 at 4:39 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I want to thank everyone who has participated so far on this blog. It has been extremely enjoyable for me. You have challenged me to review some terms and genres I'd forgotten and taught me some I hadn't known. This has been educational to say the least.

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#41) On December 08, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

How about scientific journalism?  According to wCaseym, it is a new form and is found in his new blog "Before the Smite of the Unmanned Drones!" 

lemoneater, I think I need rest or new glasses.  I was speeding past the blogs in my following list and read that last one as "Smile Before the Unmarried Doctors!"  Do you think it was from going to see Fiddler on the Roof the other night?  TRADITION!

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#42) On December 08, 2010 at 12:30 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Seeing things again, Mary? I have the same problem when I've been reading too long :). I love Fiddler on the Roof.

Scientific journalism should count. My husband has been reading science journals for years so I don't know how new a genre it is:). I will have to check out wCaseym's blog to see what he means.

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#43) On December 08, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

Just a side note - The first movie that I ever saw with my husband was just after we met (1972).  It was a new release called Fiddler on the Roof.  I gave him a Christmas present of a figurine of Tevye.  It played "If I were a rich man."  By that time, we had known each other for about 6 weeks and knew we wanted to spend our lives together.  We married in August.  Last week, the Broadway cast came here and we saw the musical as it was meant to be seen, the staged version, in a theater that was built when theaters were built to be grand and beautiful, and we saw it together.  Brilliant!

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#44) On December 08, 2010 at 12:42 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I enjoyed the children's picture book allusion you made in comment #5 on TinyCapsWatch's "First Blog."

It reminds me of a more sophisticated version of This is the House that Jack Built. I'm certain there is a special term to describe the piling up of events to lead to a disastrous/humorous conclusion.

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#45) On December 08, 2010 at 1:11 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #43 I'm beginning to think my favorite kind of literature is the true story. How romantic! Thank you for sharing a special memory.

I had the opportunity to see Fiddler on the Roof staged when my small college put it on. Nothing like knowing all the cast members to add to one's audience appreciation!

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#46) On December 08, 2010 at 1:17 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

So far we have found literature in multiple forms on Motley Fool. We have found it in blogs, articles, and even the headlines themselves. However another place I was surprised by lit was on a profile page. Great Dickens reference. Thanks, puccini3005.

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#47) On December 08, 2010 at 1:33 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I think I will start a whole new blog on the language of user names. User names are replete with literary elements.

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#48) On December 08, 2010 at 1:35 PM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

Whoa! Thanks Lemoneater!  I read that book (Nicholas Nickleby) this summer and loved it.  If I ever can get it together I want to do a blog about it on caps, it has a lot of financial relevance.  I was limited in my profile quote, so I had to pare it down.  Here's the whole quote that I wanted to enter:

"Speculation is a round game, the players see little or nothing of their cards at first starting; gains may be great – and so may losses.  The run of luck went against Mr. Nickleby; a mania prevailed, a bubble burst, four stockbrokers took residences at Florence, four hundred nobodies were ruined, and among them Mr. Nickleby.”

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#49) On December 08, 2010 at 1:46 PM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

It's funny, my previous profile quote was from Dr. Suess.  I wonder if that would have received a honourable mention on your literary blog...  :)

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#50) On December 08, 2010 at 1:57 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

To wrap up this literature scavenger hunt:

It was one point for each correct answer from the questions I numbered in the starting blog. (My numbering is off, but everybody politely ignored the glaring error.)

It was one point for accuracy on correcting an incorrectly labeled genre.

Any genre or literary element I didn't refer to specifically was worth five points extra credit unless somebody else had already used the term for points.

Figuring the score was my hardest challenge. I lost count with Mary953. I think that I will just declare her the winner.


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#51) On December 08, 2010 at 2:07 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #48 For his part, my husband credits Great Expectations for his debt avoidance.  

Do write your blog on Nicholas Nickleby when you have time. Dickens would be honored and we would be enriched.  

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#52) On December 08, 2010 at 2:17 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #49 Dr. Suess would have gotten a mention for certain. The best children's lit is enjoyed by all ages. I certainly appreciated Dr. Suess most as an adult. His word plays and ironic references are rather cerebral. His vivid colors and simple drawings are a clever ploy to distract the reader from the intellectual content and make it look like a children's book.

Dr. Suess has a special place in my library. I got one of his books when I graduated from grad school and another as a Christmas gift from my husband.

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#53) On December 08, 2010 at 3:14 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

And for the final answer everyone has been waiting for. Our third haiku poet that I know about is (drum roll, please) is...


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#54) On December 08, 2010 at 3:20 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:


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#55) On December 08, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

Ivan has a blog about the Poor Expectations of Netflix that begins with a quote from Dorian Gray.  And is it proper for a reference librarian to even be competing?  I just love puzzles.  That is why I turned to genealogy.  The puzzles are endless.  I am going to go take my daughter some turkey  -  Back soon.

(I added another Christmas idea to the other blog - cannot wait to try the peppermint recipe)  ;)

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#56) On December 08, 2010 at 3:47 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Besides the index, Mary is working on, fools should know MF has its very own dictionary. Thanks to Blesto for mentioning it. Share your knowledge with the rest of us.

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#57) On December 08, 2010 at 3:55 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #55 You never know where Dorian Gray will pop up. I was watching an old British sci-fi Blake Seven episode which cleverly reworked the character of Dorian Gray.

The rules of the contest didn't state that any professions were excluded from participating :) 

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#58) On December 09, 2010 at 7:07 PM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

Lemoneater, in regards to #40 - Thank YOU for putting this blog out here.  It was a ton of fun and educational for everybody that participated, I'm sure.  Plus it did a good amount for foolanthropy too.  If you're still checking this one (I noticed you have 2 new blogs out now), I'm about to tack some more to the end here...

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#59) On December 09, 2010 at 7:09 PM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

@#50 - I'm glad Mary won - she deservered it.  We all knew it would be her once the lovable librarian tossed her hat in the ring!

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#60) On December 09, 2010 at 7:18 PM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

@#52 (Dr. Suess) - That's great! and I totally agree.  I just never had thought it out that articuately - I just knew I still love to read Suess (didn't know other adults out there did too).  I let my kids choose the book to read for story time.  If I did the choosing it would be Dr. Suess every night.  Sometimes when its getting late and I'm trying to steer them to "Horton Hears a Who" or "Cat in the Hat" I see my wife waving and mouthing - "Noooo - those are too loooong...."  Anyway, I wouldn't mind knowing which titles the two you mentioned were (Graduation and Christmas present).

The previous quote I mentioned was from "Dr. Suess's ABC's", the "O" page:  "Oscar's only ostrich oiled an orange owl today".  I could never read that one, with the hilarious picture, w/o trying to stifle a laugh, most of the time ineffectively.

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#61) On December 09, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

Puccini - "Lovable librarian?"  Dear one, you just made my list of favorites by adding such joy to my heart.  Thank you.  You have NO idea how much I needed that joy today.

And at least one of the Dr. S books has got to be "Oh The Places You'll Go!"  which is my favorite graduation present.  (And just for kicks, I add to the front either a gift certificate for a great place to eat if I know where they are headed next or I add a gift cert for iTunes and a note that in the places they go, they will want to take some music with them.)

If you ever want something searched out, just give a shout. 

And I'll try my hardest, without a doubt!

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#62) On December 09, 2010 at 7:29 PM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

I know this is getting out of hand, but as long as the lit portal has been opened, and these comments are worth .10, well, here's a few quotes I like, soley for your reading enjoyment.
A short verse from Rudyard Kipling:
There are the four that are never content,
    that have never been filled since the dews began -
Jacala’s mouth, and the glut of the Kite,
    and the hands of the Ape, and the Eyes of Man.

It's from Vol I of The Jungle Books. Each chapter is bookended with a poem or song.  That the opening to one of the chapters.

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#63) On December 09, 2010 at 7:39 PM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

Last one.  From Marlowe, "Dr. Faustus":

His faith is great, I cannot touch his soul;
But what I may afflict his body with
I will attempt, which is but little worth.

That's Mephistophilis to Dr. Faustus, after the Doc has asked him to torment and old man that been giving him a hard time...  There's some OLD lit for you!

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#64) On December 09, 2010 at 7:51 PM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

Thanks Mary!  I'm glad I could provide a needed lift!  You've been in my favorites for a while, and I like to try to keep up on the blogs of my favs.  I don't usually say much (but I do rec).  So you've long been the "loveable librarian" to me!

That's a great idea for a graduation present, and most likely one of the ones lemoneater was talking about.  I've never read it, but I will now.

Great Suess-esque verse there, and thanks again!

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#65) On December 10, 2010 at 10:03 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #64 Thrilled to have more literary allusions added to this blog. Mary was right about which Dr. Suess I was given as a graduation gift.

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#66) On December 10, 2010 at 10:14 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #60 I got the following for Christmas It comes with a very useful and amusing glossary.

It is better known as How the Grinch Stole Christmas! My husband got it for me more as a joke than anything else. I studied a little Latin years ago but am very rusty through lack of use.

Dr. Suess is delightful even in translation :)

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#67) On December 10, 2010 at 10:28 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #62 I had to read that Kipling excerpt aloud. Great cadence. Its form and theme reminds me of some very old poetry.



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#68) On December 10, 2010 at 10:43 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #63 I regret that Marlowe didn't get to write more plays than he did. Mephistophilis has some of the best lines in the play.

I think my husband likes Marlowe's Dr. Faustus the best of the different versions of Faust available.

Goethe's Faust even has a poodle if I remember correctly. Somehow a poodle seems an incongruous element in an epic struggle between good and evil for a man's soul.

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#69) On December 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Have a wonderful weekend, puccini3005. Feel free to add more comments! This has been fun!

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#70) On December 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #42 from what I can tell the term "scientific journalism" in this context refers more to the study of journalism as far as where original sources come from than to journalism on scientific topics.

Unfortunately sometimes journalism fits more into the category of "whisper down the lane" than an account of an actual event that happened. I think it is impossible for news to not have some kind of a bias because we are looking at what happened through the reporter's eyes.

Just like a photographer, the journalist has to pick and choose through the available data to craft a cohesive story. But unlike a photographer who can create an ethereal fantasy, a journalist is expected to write non-fiction.

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#71) On December 15, 2010 at 2:31 AM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

Hey lemoneater, didn't mean to let this thread die unceremoniously...  Despite your kind wishes for a wonderful weekend, I have been ill.  But anyway...

@#67 - Wow, that's just like it!  I wonder if those verses are what inspired kipling's.  And you trumped my "OLD lit", probably by at least 2000 years!

BTW, I realized I never thanked you for the idioms anecdote - loved the "Whatever floats your cradle"

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#72) On December 15, 2010 at 2:53 AM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

@#68 - I agree about the Marlowe play.  I read Goethe's Faust, and I confess I've forgotten much about it, including that poodle.  I do remember it going on, and on, and on... I liked it, but I was ready for the end.

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#73) On December 15, 2010 at 3:07 AM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

Did you happen to catch this one from Binve, where he borrows a Suess line for a blog title:

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#74) On December 15, 2010 at 1:01 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #71 Glad that you're feeling much better. Literature waits patiently for the reader. It is great to have flexible hobbies.

Literary archeology is fascinating. Some authors will directly say where they got their inspiration--whether from life or from other writings. Others don't say perhaps to keep the mystery. Or perhaps, because they don't always know themselves! And then some like T.S. Eliot (not one of my favorite poets) purposely mislead their readers. Possibly he knew that he would help several critics to have enough material to get them through their doctoral programs.



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#75) On December 15, 2010 at 1:03 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Glad you liked "Whatever floats your cradle." Some idioms are better left unsaid. That might be one of them!

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#76) On December 15, 2010 at 1:34 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #73. I'm going to check out that blog. I think Binve is a fellow Suess enthusiast.

I need to re-read that version of Faust and make sure that there really was a poodle. Sometimes I need to double check the details. My imagination can be more powerful than my memory.

I meant to say earlier in #74 that since Kipling alludes directly to the Bible at times he could have well had that Proverbs passage in mind. I'm not an expert, but the similarity is such than I think there must be some connection.   

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#77) On December 23, 2010 at 2:09 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Around this time of year we read the classic short story The Christmas Carol. I've always wondered exactly what Scrooge did for a living something financial, but what?

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#78) On December 24, 2010 at 11:50 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Thinking of Scrooge reminds me of Silas Marner another miser who reforms one special winter when the gold he discovers is the golden curls of a little girl.


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#79) On December 24, 2010 at 11:59 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Silas Marner is a novel that I appreciated much better as an adult than as a pre-teen when my older brothers were reading it. The first time I read Silas, I thought the story was weird. I think the Victorian sentimentality came across as bizarre, not to mention that Marner's obsession with hoarding gold was strange and nothing I could relate to. 

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#80) On December 24, 2010 at 12:22 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Of course, the mother's drug addiction and neglect of her child leading to the discovery and rescue of the child by the old weaver makes the story more relevant to today's readers than those less familiar with such a social problem in the past. 


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#81) On December 29, 2010 at 2:26 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Recently I've been reading The Hobbit again. I really like a hero I can identify with. Bilbo values the simple pleasures of life: eating, talking with friends, traveling to new places, etc. He is a dynamic character who grows in courage and wisdom. It is a fantasy, but with a philosophy applicable to real life. Be loyal to your friends and do the best that you can in spite of fears and limitations. Bilbo got gold, but he valued honor and friendship more.

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#82) On December 30, 2010 at 4:35 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I've finished The Hobbit and started the first book of the Lord of the Rings. One of my favorite things about vacation is the extra time I have for reading. The Fellowship has just formed what will happen to Frodo and his friends?

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#83) On December 31, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

Dear friend, I almost hate to do this to you, but have you encountered the books of David Eddings yet?  If you enjoy Tolkien, you will surely enjoy the Belgarion and the Mallorian.  The warning that comes with this is that each is a series of 5 books.  The praise is that those books have kept me company through illnesses, through hospital watches, through long rides to vacation destinations....

If that were not enough, when my daughter wanted to become a writer, I gave her a volume of Shakespeare and the first of the Eddings series "Pawn of Prophecy" both of which she promptly devoured.  She is now writing her own urban fantasy. 

As a side note, she was in 6th grade at the time.  Not long after, her class began to read Romeo and Juliet.  She and I would read it at home in the evening so that I could translate some of the "inside jokes" by explaining what the characters were talking about.  She returned to class after the first day of reading, went up to the teacher, and informed her that she knew why the teacher kept laughing - was she planning to inform the rest of the class what the characters were really talking about?  She got a wink and a "NO!"

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#84) On December 31, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

FWIW, I did not mean to duck out on you all.  I got a Kindle for Christmas and am reading my 4th book on it!  TMF has an entire selection for sale as well, but thus far, I am reading 'bargain books' from a number of sources.  As an experiment, I downloaded and bought a book today while sitting in the middle of a college basketball game.  (Halftime)  Just wanted to see whether I could do it.  Yep!

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#85) On January 01, 2011 at 2:30 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

When I was a teen, my cousin was reading David Eddings. I enjoyed hearing his plot summaries, but I was more into Christian romances and horse stories at that time.

I will have to check some out on your recommendation, Mary. I like high fantasy very much.

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#86) On January 01, 2011 at 2:37 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Tolkein was nothing if he was not an extremely well-read professor gifted in Old English, etc. Lord of the Rings has such wonderful depth. I think if we had never had Beowulf or the Norse Sagas that we would not have had Lord of the Rings.

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#87) On January 01, 2011 at 3:02 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I think Tolkein went even further back than Old English for his inspiration because he wrote an epic. He broke a few of the epic conventions as to form since he wrote prose rather than poetry, but not as to content.

As you know, one of the very oldest kinds of literature is an epic as in the Epic of GilgameshLord of the Rings still follows many epic conventions: the major conflict of good vs. evil, the hero on a quest that includes a journey through the underworld, etc. If Tolkein wanted to give his story the appearance of great age--a time in the past where history intermingles with myth--he succeeded.

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#88) On January 01, 2011 at 3:12 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I think that literature is often taught in the wrong way. Rather than intimidating students with something completely unfamiliar like the Epic of Gilgamesh or Beowulf (both beautiful works well worth studying) we should start with modern works containing epic elements and work backwards so students can gradually become familiar with ancient works in a less threatening way.

Meet Frodo first and then you realize that Gilgamesh and Beowulf are very familiar.


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#89) On January 01, 2011 at 3:22 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #84 I'm glad that you are enjoying your kindle, Mary! My husband is enjoying reading hard to find Jules Verne stories on his right now. Don't for get that Fleabagger is a published author on the Kindle. a fictional work.

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#90) On January 01, 2011 at 3:25 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

And here is some of his non-fictional work. I was surprised that nobody mentioned "essay" during the scavenger hunt.

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#91) On January 01, 2011 at 3:36 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

@ #83 Shakespeare is certainly more interesting with all the explanations included, but much less appropriate to a high school classroom that way. You daughter probably got an "A" in the class.

I tried to read Shakespeare when I was twelve, but I found it rough going from content. I did like the Tempest, but some of the other stories were just strange, because I didn't have enough life experience to appreciate them--King Lear for example.

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#92) On January 01, 2011 at 3:55 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I have to say that probably my least favorite Shakespeare play is Julius Caesar. I've read it, and seen it performed twice, but I still find it a bit bizarre.

Why conspire to assassinate someone and then stand over his body eulogizing him as Brutus and as Mark Antony does? Strange. Also I had the misfortune of once hearing this famous speech done by someone with a voice like Kermit the Frog.

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#93) On January 07, 2011 at 10:56 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I'm on to the Two Towers now. We have been watching The Lord of the Rings in conjunction with my reading the books. Usually I like a book much better than the movie version, but Peter Jackson does and excellent job keeping close to the text except for a few omissions of characters like Tom Bombadil who would have been really difficult to include without a lot of explanation.

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#94) On January 07, 2011 at 10:58 AM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Should be "an" not "and." Typing fast for foolanthropy leads to mistakes.

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#95) On January 07, 2011 at 1:59 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

I can hardly wait for The Hobbit to be released. Evidently they have just started filming it recently.

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#96) On January 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM, puccini3005 (30.27) wrote:

Hi Lemoneater, sorry I dissapeared for a while, I took a Christmas vacation and then was playing catch-up for a while.  Lots of activity on your blogs while I was gone!  I really liked the one you did on Scrooge (an extension of #77).

Its funny, you could have asked me that question and I wouldn't have known... Yet I read the story and just glazed over it, the fact I didn't know.  I guess that shows I need to be a more active reader.  I realize I focus too much just on the story much of the time.

Ever thought about what Ralph Nickleby business was?  He is called "the usurer" and its obvious he was also an investor (speculator)... He was an old-school, one-man citibank!

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#97) On January 11, 2011 at 3:31 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Glad that you enjoyed the one about Scrooge. These one-man financiers are pretty grim! 

Ralph Nickleby is an even more tragic character than Scrooge, because he never reformed, and he lost his wife and son through his greed and hardness. What an unhappy man he was!

I guess the temptations for moneylenders haven't changed, just the company size. I think that anyone who wants to make a career of finance should read Dickens. Literature hasn't lost its relevance.

Thanks for sharing another example from Dickens that applies to business today.



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#98) On January 11, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Mary953 (84.30) wrote:

Switching to Merchant of Venice for a moment (not really changing topics since we are still in Shakespeare's plays),  Patrick Stewart (Capt. Pickard of Star Trek:Next Gen), played the title role for a time in either London or New York.  He played it as the lone stranger in the town being turned against by the town's people - Not as Jews against Gentiles.  An interesting way to tackle the role.

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#99) On January 12, 2011 at 12:23 PM, lemoneater (56.84) wrote:

Patrick Stewart is such a skilled actor, I'm going to see if YouTube has a clip of him as the lead in Merchant of Venice. Shakespeare does lend itself to myriads of adaptations. Neat!

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