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GoodVibe is challenging SpecBear, EverydayInvestor & GoldminingXpert for $100,000+

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April 01, 2009 – Comments (65) | RELATED TICKERS: MO , NE , Y

Fellow Fools,

I, GoodVibe, decided to tell these top three players that they are good but not that good as they think they are. They carry little meat under their investing or trading skinny body. To be blunt about it, they are all bark and no bite. To prove my point I am offering $25,000 for each of them if they can beat me in a public challenge.

First, they have to open a combined new cap to compete with a new one I will open against them. We compete for 90 days and anything goes. If they beat me and their portfolio makes the top 10 I will add another $5,000 each to the reward and if it becomes the top Fool, I’ll make it $10,000 each. That is total of more than $100,000 US Dollars.

If they get defeated, and they will, they don't need to pay me back as much as I offer them. After they concede their defeat, they have to do only one thing. Stop using their old Cap and start a new one. Not as costly as my offer, I believe.

There are two conditions to this offer: If one of them failed to join this competition, the bet is off and if they fail to act in the next 24 hours, the bet is off as well. Terms of this offer are not negotiable. At any rate, my new account will go live by 10 am. tomorrow and will catch up with their current Caps in 90 days. That I promise.

If these three players agree to the challenge, I am also offering any of tonight's top 100 Caps’ players to take on the same challenge and start a new Cap to compete. If any of them beat both of our new portfolios, they will get the money - $100,000. Only abitarePERFECT and Alstry are not allowed. ;) Hey, it’s my money. Once all portfolios are set up before 10 am. tomorrow, the money will be deposited the next day at the escrow of their choice.

The only one thing I know is that they will lose and I am willing to put my money and my name on the line to prove to you my point and shake Caps a little bit from this stagnation at the top. They can prove me wrong if they wish! Now, let freedom ring!

         Keep the faith. Stay positive. Winning begins within!

GoodVibe
Strength & Honor

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#1) On April 01, 2009 at 9:01 AM, DaretothREdux (43.57) wrote:

Sounds like fun...hope they all sign on today...

Oh and since you mention  abitarePERFECT 

Does that mean that  abitare

can't join either?

LOL. Since they are the same person, I'm guessing so.

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#2) On April 01, 2009 at 9:06 AM, PrestonCheek (31.52) wrote:

I like a good challenge too.

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#3) On April 01, 2009 at 9:08 AM, ayekappy (< 20) wrote:

Nice!  The gauntlet hath been thrown. The only hard part will be getting SpecBear within the 24 hours. :)

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#4) On April 01, 2009 at 9:09 AM, ayekappy (< 20) wrote:

Odd that this challenge was proposed on April Fool's Day, but I doubt it's a joke.

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#5) On April 01, 2009 at 9:12 AM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

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#6) On April 01, 2009 at 9:20 AM, HooDaHeckNose (95.98) wrote:

April Fools!

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#7) On April 01, 2009 at 9:22 AM, AnomaLee (28.50) wrote:

You're really trying to bets on CAPs portfolios? :(

A little eccentric, but I enjoy competition as well.

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#8) On April 01, 2009 at 9:28 AM, DaretothREdux (43.57) wrote:

HooDaHeckNose,

I don't think so man...I think this is for real. And it's not technically a bet. They don't have to put up anything of monetary value, so it's more like a contest.

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#9) On April 01, 2009 at 9:34 AM, XMFSinchiruna (27.75) wrote:

GoodVibe,

I am hugely disappointed with this post of yours. I had come to think of you as a player with a consistently positive approach that saw no need to diminish the contributions, perspectives, nor abilities of other community members in an effort to glorify your own. I think your ego has got the better of you, dear Fool. Time to channel some of that peace and love mantra and continue to do what you do best... offer what you offer without a worry in the world for what others around you are doing.

This post is uncharacteristically aggressive, the terms of your challenge are ludicrous (three stakeholders sharing a single profile), and frankly the whole thing is beneath you.

For these blogs to retain the positive tone that you always claim to strive for, I think that calling out individual players in this manner is totally out of bounds. Now, if there's some back-story or drama I'm not tuned in to that serves as a precursor for your challenge, then color me uninterested... I am simply commenting on this post.

 

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#10) On April 01, 2009 at 9:35 AM, RookieQB (28.72) wrote:

Oh Shiznit! We need to rec this to the top! The heat is on!

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#11) On April 01, 2009 at 9:40 AM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

For any one who doubt this challenge...

Two things I pride myself about; my name and my word. You can count on them.

Yes, Dare! All the many zombies, aliases, and the like of abitare are not allowed. :)

GoodVibe

 

 

 

 

 

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#12) On April 01, 2009 at 9:50 AM, arboretum (28.51) wrote:

Wow. If it's not an April fool, it sure shows a lot of confidence.

I have never really cared much about my CAPS score, but now I wish I'd tried harder - being in the Top 100 has significant monetary value. EI, SpecBear and GMX I can understand, but if you make it open to the Top 100 it's a free lottery ticket. Just like all the TMF contests except much better odds of winning. I will personally place a much smaller bet (all I can afford) with anyone who wants to take it that GV can't win this if more than 20 of the top 100 join in.

By the way, UltraLong has been playing for about 20 days and has already made it to rank 35th, GV has been playing for 4 months and is ranked 146th. Maybe GV is UL, hence the confidence?

Do we all get to find out the alter egos in the unlikely event that this goes ahead?

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#13) On April 01, 2009 at 9:55 AM, herztical (28.12) wrote:

...this would never work (if not a joke) since your picks are disclosed; as soon as they turn negative (if they do) the opponent can just pick them and basically lock your pick out.  Furthermore market creation/manipulation is a def possibility in these OTC/BB "stocks".  Any true "research" would be exposed and this would be a competition of who can time the 3x etfs and OTC/BB stocks.

...and GV your not even a top 100 player (yet)...practice what you preach, it's a marathon not a race and you'll be at the top soon enough!

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#14) On April 01, 2009 at 9:57 AM, TMFRosetint (98.97) wrote:

QFT, TMFSinch. This is ridiculous.

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#15) On April 01, 2009 at 9:58 AM, phalkor (76.77) wrote:

Sinchiruna, your post made my day. Since this is so uncharacteristic of GV and on such a significant date. Well, you make the call for yourself. This is NOT advice.

lulz on a Wednesday morning...sweet

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#16) On April 01, 2009 at 10:02 AM, TMFRosetint (98.97) wrote:

lulz? Uh-oh. I know what that means.

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#17) On April 01, 2009 at 10:13 AM, oversea (< 20) wrote:

GV, you have taught me a lot and your help was a light in understanding stock exchange's obscure ways. This is not the master's way. Why do you waste your time and energy in such a useless way? I don't see any strenght or honour in all this. Remember the story of King Pyrrus. 

In concordia res parvae crescunt and this isn't the way.

 

 

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#18) On April 01, 2009 at 10:19 AM, XMFSinchiruna (27.75) wrote:

phalkor

I do hope it's a joke. :) If it is, consider me royally punked ;P The tone of it, though, along with comment #11, make me suspect that it is not. Sure gives him a convenient out, though, in case his targets accept the challenge. :P

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#19) On April 01, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Kenaida22 (< 20) wrote:

Nothing wrong with alittle harmless competition, besides makes for good entertainment.

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#20) On April 01, 2009 at 10:40 AM, abitare (33.78) wrote:

bock, bock, bock, bock, cluck cluck

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#21) On April 01, 2009 at 10:46 AM, AnomaLee (28.50) wrote:

This is cheezy even for April Fools, so if this isn't a prank I wish I could neg rec this.

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#22) On April 01, 2009 at 10:51 AM, tonylogan1 (27.87) wrote:

any chance his gets open to all caps members with score better than GV's?

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#23) On April 01, 2009 at 10:52 AM, rancidx3 (39.13) wrote:

I'm super tired and I could see April fools from a mile away :(

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#24) On April 01, 2009 at 10:56 AM, jstegma (29.16) wrote:

As long as you're willing to back your talk with $$$ I don't see any problem with calling people out.  I just wish I was about 20 places higher in the rankings.  But nonetheless, I'm calling April Fools on this.

By the way, I'm betting on the field in this one.  The top caps guys are good and mainly got there by predicting major market turns.  However, there are only 3 of them, one of you, and 96 others.  The odds of winning in 90 days wouldn't be that good against a group of elementary school kids.  At least the betting odds would probably pay better on you than they would on the field.  With the field being the other top caps players including some non-bears that have managed to get that high up, I say forget it.  Field is an easy bet even at -$500.

It's either an April Fool or just a plain uncapitalized fool.

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#25) On April 01, 2009 at 11:09 AM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

Sinch - Sorry to disappoint, man! But time to put all the say nayers to rest so I can do some good without interruption. I am getting sick and tired man of those drive-by-posters. This is not fair! By the way these three players did nothing but just being the top of the food chain. Nothing personal here - Just a friendly contest.

Herzt - That will even make it better. By the way, I made the top 50 (#44) when I started in just the first 15 days when I joined so 90 days for me is a lot of time. Once I got my blogs the eyes I was after; I stopped paying attention to my Cap. Soon you will see different performance.

Oversea – I have to talk to you about this story later. It will be a nice conversation. I promise or I hope.

Alstry – where your post went? You posted something here that sounded like you felt, let’s say, “You feeling left behind”. Okay, come here little child and cry. :)

Abitare – WOW! You write the same way you sound in real life. Better do like Alstry said he would do. He will show me something I can’t really remember using his PositiveAlsrty Cap. What was that Al that you will show me?

GoodVibe (Believe me still Good Vibe) :)

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#26) On April 01, 2009 at 11:26 AM, OldEnglish (28.04) wrote:

This is wonderful for Caps. I doubt SpecBear will reply in time but it would be amazing if he did. GoodVibe deserves an enormous amount of respect if it is something more than an April Fool's joke. If it is, Motley Fool management should support or subsidize his effort as they will get free media attention.

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#27) On April 01, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Wharrgarbl (50.17) wrote:

Arrogance is never a good thing.  I am disappointed.  Even if it is an april fool's joke, it is in very poor taste.

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#28) On April 01, 2009 at 11:46 AM, goldminingXpert (29.43) wrote:

Hmmmm.

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#29) On April 01, 2009 at 11:51 AM, RVAspeculator (28.85) wrote:

No offense, but you scored 3000 points in the first month you created your account at the end of 2008 with 200 ridiculous high beta plays.   There is nothing to stop someone from creating one of those accounts over and over again when we get very oversold.

 

Since you started with 100% accuracy and 3000 points you have just been going sideways and racking up picks you cannot close because they are way too far underwater and you want to keep your accuracy high.  Still it has slipped from 100% to 70%.

 

Everyday on the other hand consistently DESTROYS CAPS, for years….

 

I enjoy reading your posts but this is ridiculous.   Like I said before I hope this is a joke.  

 

If it is not a joke is there a way for someone else to bet on this?   I would like to put a large wager on Everyday.

 

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#30) On April 01, 2009 at 11:52 AM, EverydayInvestor (< 20) wrote:

If I were convinced you were serious GV I'd play those odds any day; considering that I don't think you are completely stupid, I am convinced this is just an April Fool's joke.

Of course, given your schedule, I bet there is no way we'd reach Specbear in time even if he did want to participate.

But hey, I'm game. I nominate my attorney's law firm, Lewis Rice & Fingersh to hold the money in escrow. GMX is game too, I am sure. But GV--please have the decency to tell us this is a joke before I put forth the effort to actually create a new profile.

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#31) On April 01, 2009 at 11:55 AM, RVAspeculator (28.85) wrote:

Read my post above Everyday....   I am serious about putting money on you.   It will be easier money than when I shorted Countrywide.

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#32) On April 01, 2009 at 11:57 AM, EverydayInvestor (< 20) wrote:

BTW, anyone know how to reach SpecBear? Use the contact form on my blog (www.goodevalue.com/about ) to give me his email address if you have it. I have not seen him blog or post a pitch or comment in a long time so if this 'contest' is serious, it is almost certain that Specbear won't find out about it in time (in which case that is seriously devious on GV's part).

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#33) On April 01, 2009 at 12:22 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

Great! This is the spirit of big guys. We got two. One more to go!

Remember E, you have to put that profile with TWO other people. :) It's not yours alone. By the way, I just picked the top 3 and didn't know that Spec is hard to find. Do you wanna replace him with someone else if you can't find him?

RVA - Remember you are not wagering on E alone. He got company! ;) And for your assessment of my performance, now we will be playing for more than Caps' points and we will see.

And where are the rest of the top 100? No one want to take me on my offer? I mean, I wish someone else can do this and I'll take them on their offer in a heart beat.

GoodVibe

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#34) On April 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Chrisynd (< 20) wrote:

Clearly April Fool's.  How appropriate at the home of the Fools.

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#35) On April 01, 2009 at 12:25 PM, kaskoosek (64.31) wrote:

Anyone reccing this post is a dumb ass.

 

Money does not grow on trees especially an amount like that.

Obviously GV is a liar.

 

This does not take too many brain cells to understand that.

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#36) On April 01, 2009 at 12:25 PM, XMFSinchiruna (27.75) wrote:

GoodVibe4Ever

Debate and cordial disagreement are the foundational bedrock of the Motley Fool. If you expect to blog here with no input from dissenters, then you've come to the wrong forum, GV. I am dismayed by your inability to accept the input of "naysayers" as you call them. If you don't appreciate their comments, you're free to ingore them, and if their comments are blatantly disrespectful, you're free to report them. But to grandstand in this way in an attempt to remove intellectual competition is not an honorable act. Strength and honor, GV... all words? That's tough to take. I think you've just lost scores of your minions in the process, and rightfully so.

People disagree with you and somehow that's not fair?

What is it you are trying to create with your offshoot community? Some kind of GV-cult where the words of the almighty TA guy are soaked up like Gospel without question nor critical thinking? Again, if that's your idea of heaven, I suggest taking that quest to another forum.

If I had limitless time to follow your massive posts, or if my laptop could hgandle the bandwidth of all those videos loading at once, then I would certainly be popping in more frequently to offer my own $0.02 of potentially dissenting views in the name of constructive and honest debate. 

No one, and I mean no one here at CAPS, has fielded more dissenting opinions from fellow members than I. The ones that are respectful and well-supported have yielded some of the best discussions I've ever had the please of taking part in. Others have been absent that level of respect, some even exhibiting tones of ill-will toward fellow members, and those posts have been less well received. In all, they have collectively consumed massive amounts of my time and energy, which I accept as a necessary consequence of my sincere efforts to help Fools protect their capital during an unprecedented time of financial turmoil. Even during the worst periods of the gold correction, when posts flowed like whitewater proclaiming some kind of victory over the gold bull, and I felt like the sole voice reassuring Fools that these $900+ levels would soon return, I never once thought to devise a strategy to quash those dissenting opinions. I have occasionally succombed to frustration, and even been guilty of a rude post or two myself, butat the end of the day I'm glad that people question my views andfind value in debating me... it makes us all better investors!

Strength and honor? You broke your own community oath, and perhaps that's a good thing. Perhaps now your groupies (as you called them) will temper their interpretation of the gospel accordoing to GV with a healthy dose of critical thinking. There are no deities here... so welcome back to Earth.

 

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#37) On April 01, 2009 at 12:34 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

Sinch - I know you won't respond unless you cared about me and I appreciate it. You know, I am a mortal man after all. :( Never claimed to be an angel.

Kask - Is the only thing you think about is Recs.? Uh! Was that the reason? Rest my case!

GoodVibe

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#38) On April 01, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Billullo (< 20) wrote:

I think GV is just trying to get a point across. YOu guys are a bunch of idiots for getting all rattled up by this challenge. Maybe he is just trying to prove how greedy these other fools are! And if its a joke you: the ones responding including me are the joke!

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#39) On April 01, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Sobornost (< 20) wrote:

Unimpressive and embarassing.  Sad, and definitely not funny.  What a hypocritical display of childish negativity & stirring of emotions from someone who advises people not to move on their emotions.  Not only does he not follow his own "rules", but takes his frustration out on others.  I'm staying clear of this one for now.  I guess I didn't notice how much it smells like a bar in the morning here.

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#40) On April 01, 2009 at 12:49 PM, kaskoosek (64.31) wrote:

GV

I do not understand. What does that show?

That I disagree with your methods!!!

 

Anyway from a rational standpoint your wager does not make any sense.

Even if it is some kind of stupid joke.

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#41) On April 01, 2009 at 2:08 PM, thehammer01 (97.93) wrote:

I think sinch is afraid of CAPS losing it's most prized profiles. I'm a believer that everyone is altruistic (for instance- this is a good way for you to get recs. but then back out tomorrow saying it is an April Fools. While a very cool idea, it is no coincidence that it is done on 4/1).  From CAPS standpoint, they are running a business - one which mostly feeds off of our collective knowledge and turns our individual stock pitches into news stories (as if we weren't fools, ironic).  They would hate to lose their top3 players (and it would also highlight the randomness of being an all-star with just one featured profile, thereby undercutting the faith in the current system of weighting all-star picks for stars and also using all-star pitches in articles).

I'm curious as to why no other players in the top100 have responded.  Lots of ghost accounts?  People lose interest over time (likely - considering CAPS STILL has not created the ability to close more than one pick at a time, despite promising it months ago)?  Don't believe you?

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#42) On April 01, 2009 at 2:09 PM, ayekappy (< 20) wrote:

kaskoosek:  You'd be surprised how much money some people have.  I know people where $100k spent at a strip club is not impossible.

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I also bet goldminingexpert is peeing his pants at the chance for $25k+. He's under 21 or something isn't he?

Everydayinvestor... probably not as excited, but then again he sold a used monitor so he probably loves money either way.

Specbear, not too sure, but I'm certain he's very well off. 

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#43) On April 01, 2009 at 2:28 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

Only a fool who judges people based on their age than their deeds!

GoodVibe

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#44) On April 01, 2009 at 2:47 PM, kfisherprotege (30.26) wrote:

GV,  I'm enjoying all the frivolity and like other players, I *think* you're being tongue-in-cheek with this, given what day it is.  I also respect your quest to become Alpha Fool, but I can't say I can Rec this, only because my own criteria for Rec'ing a post is this: Does anything in the post give me information or insights to be a better investor?  So for your other chart-laden posts, I'd say definitely yes.  But this one?  Sorry, but no.

As for your challenge, how on earth do three people agree on picks in one combined cap?

-kfp

 

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#45) On April 01, 2009 at 2:52 PM, AntiRonChapmanJr (99.79) wrote:

I'm going with the idea that this is a joke, but if not I would be interested as a Top 100 player.

All I need to do is create a new portfolio that starts tomorrow?  Any specific name?  I agree with Everyday though, if this is a joke, please let us know before we go through the trouble of adding another port.

Peace,

ron

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#46) On April 01, 2009 at 3:14 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

kfisherprotege wrote: how on earth do three people agree on picks in one combined cap?

Maybe -by design- this is gonna be one of their weakness that I can exploit. Don't you think? :)They can do whatever fit them. Split their 200 picks, cooperate, I don't know.

Just curious Ron -not trying to read your mind here- are you gonna play Anti Ron style or good Ron style?

GMX - Are you in or just Hmmmm #28?

E - Did you make up your mind who will be the third? My new Cap will be up 9 PM tonight to give you head start and to show you the first sign that I mean business here. And once you're all in, I'll let my lawyer call your lawyers and set the paper work done.

GoodVibe

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#47) On April 01, 2009 at 3:28 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

Oh! I will also give you my first 200 picks that I will choose as first week picks so you can really have good a head start if you choose to copy me as you said.

GoodVibe

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#48) On April 01, 2009 at 3:29 PM, alstry (35.36) wrote:

Goodvibe...

I am not sure what happended to my response.....it appears that Motley Fool's advertising revenues must be running dry and they are trying to conserve on ink.

As I think I am the highest scorer on CAPs since I started playing, for fun I will just play on the side....

If you guys start...I will just take my starting score and call it zero...my guess is by the time you are done I will be rated 100 and out of here anyway.

Good luck to all who participate.

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#49) On April 01, 2009 at 3:30 PM, AntiRonChapmanJr (99.79) wrote:

Is one style not allowed?  I would probably combine the best aspects of both ports.   I would be playing with my antiron reputation on the line however since my other portfolio cant seem to make it out of the 150-200 range right now.

ron

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#50) On April 01, 2009 at 3:53 PM, MLGtrader (98.69) wrote:

 I would be down to play.  The whole deal sounds super sketchy though.  I still think that it is an April Fools prank, but I'll play.  I am sure you have some ace up your sleeve though. 

To enter, do I just need to have an account open by 10am?  

Then whoever has the highest rank at the end of 90 days will get the $100,000, be it GV, the three top fools or any individual top 100 player?

Does it matter what we name our accounts?

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#51) On April 01, 2009 at 3:56 PM, EverydayInvestor (< 20) wrote:

GoodVibe4Ever (99.78) -- Nah, not gonna go through with it. Considering how likely it is that this is either a prank for 4/1 or you are just full of crap, I have no interest in wasting time and money (my lawyer costs $400 an hour, and I would need him to do a fair amount of work considering I'm not sure how legal this would be) on this.

Like others have said, if you were truly serious and didn't just want to taunt then you would have done this differently and certainly not on April 1. I lost out on $200 I 'won' in my last bet (on Apple's stock price) because the guy never paid up. I don't see why I should take the risk of spending a lot of effort on something when the counterparty has admitted he doesn't have a ton of money (you mentioned your trading account size previously). That means that even if I won I would likely have to litigate to get the money. That is an awful lot of hassle for a lousy $25k.

The sad thing is, because I'm not willing to waste my time and money on this, you will claim that I chickened out. Perhaps that is the fitting end to this story of the cult leader and the heretic.

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#52) On April 01, 2009 at 4:10 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

Ron - anything goes, as I said. If it's allowed in caps, it's fair game. I was just curious that you always hated what the top players were doing so I thought to ask.

MLG - You got it all right. Just after you open your new Cap, start a blog to mention that this is your Competition Cap. Only one Cap is allowed for sure. May the best win!

Al - You welcome brother. But you know that you are out of the reward. I am making this clear because you are a cleaver lawyer and can get me somehow to pay it for you if you win it. Who knows. I'll make sure that my lawyer get all things covered though. 

I'll bring the names of the top 100 here by 6PM and hope to see as many of them competing before the deadline. One condition though is a must... We have to have three of the top fives at least if Spec. is hard to find. I don't see anyone stepped in yet. 

GoodVibe

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#53) On April 01, 2009 at 4:14 PM, cubanstockpicker (20.60) wrote:

EI, all respect to you sir. I take it as no cowardice on your part. It would have been entertaining though.

Rules for easing up the taunting on here

HAVE THE FOOL RUN IT and donate the money to a charity

 

GV maybe playing less money? I am guessing you were willing to part with the money anyways since you were putting it up in a contest.

Upside for everyone

The fool website can gain some popularity out of this too.and the players enliste

 How about asking caps to run the contest and have the money donated to charity. Only have the players mentioned, add a few more that would clearly give a better run for the money than good like abitare and alstry

So in the event this isnt another gv, way of stabbing at the top fools on april fools and save face by backing out?

SO how bout it GV, EI, GMX and SB? would you do it for your favorite charity?

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#54) On April 01, 2009 at 4:20 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

E -

Oooooh! Touché! Why going personal now!

And what a lousy excuse. How can you call yourself a risk taker when you don't want to risk $400 in exchange of a possible reward of 25K? Do you want me to pay that $400 too?

How I can't afford it if I told you it would be put into an escrow of your choice in advance? BTW - I never said before my trading size or net worth but I assure you it's enough to cover the bill. Man, I am putting my name that I built here in the last four months on the line. This alone is big for me. 

It's your choice anyway. So you're calling the whole thing off? Still you earn my respect, although now it's little bit shaky.

GoodVibe

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#55) On April 01, 2009 at 4:26 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

Cub - I am still playing anyway but sorry I said I only have two requests and they are easy to fulfill. They can donate it if they like. I even relaxed my request for Spec when I knew it's hard to find him. I guess I am fair enough here. And by the way I never stabbed in anyone before top or bottom to do this now. Right?

GoodVibe

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#56) On April 01, 2009 at 4:46 PM, kingofshorts (< 20) wrote:

aren't trustfunds wonderful!!

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#57) On April 01, 2009 at 4:56 PM, goldminingXpert (29.43) wrote:

If two others of the top 5 are in, I'll join. I don't know about the legalities of it all, but I'm a young guy--what do I have to lose?

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#58) On April 01, 2009 at 5:19 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

GMX - Where have you been after your first Hummm!? :) I hope your day went well. Which way are you trading now? Didn't hear much from you lately. Still busy in school?

Now, we back to one only! But unfortunately this time, there's no excuse to pardon E. I did this for Spec because he is not available. We can replace Spec but not EDI. Any way, if thing don't go throgh, you can play for the fun. I'll have my picks as I promised by 9PM tonight. May the best win.

King - WHat do you mean? Don't get it?

GoodVibe

Here are the names of the 100 top tonight:

Member NameMember RatingScoreAccuracyActive PicksMember Since SpecBear100.0011,467.0687.02%10309/20/06 EverydayInvestor100.009,913.1788.90%9002/09/07 goldminingXpert100.0010,248.8687.19%17307/21/07 dwot100.008,631.7488.31%6310/12/06 tenmiles99.998,704.1287.23%19604/11/07 StatsGeek99.9910,844.6182.21%19312/19/06 BravoBevo99.9914,641.1781.58%19809/20/06 nicvo99.998,433.6785.87%14808/25/06 TDRH99.997,931.6384.55%11410/05/06 Gtrinvestor99.997,343.9683.14%8811/29/06 fransgeraedts99.989,231.9481.01%19009/09/07 chk99999.989,130.1281.95%18806/25/06 TMFEldrehad99.987,435.8482.09%19905/17/06 MysterInsidious99.986,076.1588.09%13601/22/07 AirForceFool99.987,199.8682.82%18908/25/06 euphoria9699.985,629.8688.55%2411/04/06 TheGreatSatan99.987,159.4781.98%19609/18/06 mikotian99.977,285.8380.72%19511/25/06 luvb2b99.976,135.6281.61%2511/24/06 d1david99.9711,544.3177.52%9109/16/06Member NameMember RatingScoreAccuracyActive PicksMember Since NTMF99.975,641.9882.33%19501/18/07 vanamonde99.976,490.8180.20%19208/15/07 dinasourneil99.975,958.8181.85%19503/12/07 TheSkyIsFalling99.975,445.4481.48%16702/08/07 AntiRonChapmanJr99.965,120.7082.47%4201/18/07 LurkyLurky99.965,062.9083.71%15909/14/06 ctmedic0099.965,158.3681.23%8610/05/06 Wollac99.969,712.7876.89%19607/15/07 BeautifulPlumage99.965,523.5280.24%16409/13/06 UltraLong99.964,335.1294.02%11703/07/09
99.958,144.4376.72%19803/01/08 dimitri10999.955,118.0480.65%9112/12/06 Novavm99.956,678.4376.20%18709/16/06
99.956,575.4976.18%13201/18/08 pokeytax99.955,042.1179.73%20001/12/07 DownWithInfidels99.954,697.0980.46%19903/08/07 turbotrager99.954,171.2285.24%13109/28/06 MakeItSeven99.944,458.0080.68%14506/24/07 FlaxSeedOil99.944,554.8079.38%19310/10/06 mavericktrading99.948,529.2774.17%8311/28/06Member NameMember RatingScoreAccuracyActive PicksMember Since mikwilly99.946,065.4275.83%18601/27/07 mmmed99.944,394.5979.94%20011/04/07 portefeuille99.945,186.9676.20%19911/19/08 alvinbentley99.934,969.3677.62%14804/29/07 madnessmmrs99.935,751.8775.17%17801/27/07 MLG10099.934,728.8077.81%7101/06/09 cipostripes99.935,371.1675.34%10209/26/06 ShortyJoy99.936,315.8174.07%19001/16/07 JRtrader0899.934,797.7176.06%11812/09/06 kdakota63099.935,905.8574.53%19810/19/07 DemonDoug99.924,518.6476.90%8909/15/06 andlonmia99.923,482.4795.83%4902/13/08 rzld3699.924,989.3875.61%15610/24/06 TMFSmashy99.927,223.8373.55%18710/03/06 GraemesPSP99.925,063.6774.74%17411/28/07 wcwhiner99.924,093.6677.51%17510/09/06 Tastylunch99.923,976.1678.31%15212/02/07 ElViking99.913,269.0487.90%7209/16/06 rangerpick99.913,243.4385.80%8410/27/07 senkihazi99.913,346.8981.93%4609/23/06 Member NameMember RatingScoreAccuracyActive PicksMember Since redearth32999.915,342.8373.93%17912/15/06 JohnnyLC99.916,133.9072.80%18909/18/06 DoctorMAD99.913,666.5678.74%7212/26/06 FoolsGrad99.903,246.9281.12%7608/25/06 litost99.903,245.7981.88%1806/20/07 dbhealy99.905,797.3172.65%7001/08/07 BullMarketN0999.904,016.1775.67%17007/14/08 biotechmgr99.903,074.3986.99%1105/03/07 TigerPack99.904,147.5474.47%15806/26/08 volatilitydecay99.903,512.7777.34%8802/08/09 OOji99.897,138.6671.36%17301/27/07 jmt58799.893,455.7577.32%19311/09/07 vonwao99.894,063.9974.47%19606/07/06 PLynchJr99.893,680.5975.53%16308/28/06 TMFBreakerBrian99.893,670.8375.34%9505/16/06
99.8911,270.0870.60%20204/13/08 Tankota99.883,928.3874.59%12412/12/07 mindmuse99.884,304.9073.77%17812/21/06 fogman2499.883,825.1574.14%15908/18/06 oldvolvoguy99.882,925.9982.06%19709/27/06 Member NameMember RatingScoreAccuracyActive PicksMember Since tuffsledding99.883,357.5975.15%19505/15/07 Bohemianbo99.884,039.2373.58%16609/20/07 Flitt1299.883,632.2074.35%18609/29/06 BlkAngus1099.873,114.6177.29%18704/16/07 gman44499.874,188.8672.46%17206/30/08 oysternelson99.873,244.7275.39%6908/31/06 dbajack99.873,835.8073.27%7807/18/07 slycal99.873,448.2374.63%7412/27/06 jwfoster99.873,809.2473.89%13601/11/07 Pureunderperform99.872,875.8479.18%9001/26/08 audr99.863,074.6476.99%12509/15/06 freunddoggy99.863,198.1275.89%17406/14/07 1stock199.863,313.1274.53%16812/27/06 b1518499.863,260.9874.16%11004/14/07 EnergyCzar7999.863,046.5376.57%14608/21/08 kevday99.863,637.8473.32%709/25/06 floridabuilder299.863,040.7476.15%1708/01/07 mordante99.852,782.9180.04%17609/18/06 BigDMan6499.852,775.4580.27%8606/25/07 foolsMeThrice99.859,419.1969.65%17402/06/07Member NameMember RatingScoreAccuracyActive PicksMember Since mgiv99.859,409.8069.58%19701/26/07 EnochRoot99.853,851.5372.59%6506/30/06 pshea1299.853,833.7672.77%19604/24/08

 

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#59) On April 01, 2009 at 6:23 PM, AnomaLee (28.50) wrote:

Oh, this is very fitting for an April Fools Day.

If this were about making an actual bet and/or about the competition you could have messaged the players yourself in private. However, I give you credit for being a savy promoter [even if you're promoting a bunch of crap].

I do hope this is a joke otherwise you take the internet a bit too serious GV.

Whether this is a joke or not this whole fiasco is extremely cheesy. It's a poor way to draw attention, and is entirely unrelated to what CAPs is about.

Even if this had started off as a friendly bet [which it did not] I easily see this going downhill much in the same way the "friendly bet" between two of our current top bloggers' [FB and the eccentric blogger] only several months ago.

How do you rationally explain any of this to friends and/or significant other outside of this small pocket of the internet?

Someone must've ate the stalk and cut the cheese. It's so corny and so cheesy that everyone should smell it.

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#60) On April 01, 2009 at 6:40 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

Lee - For everyone his own, man. You can't satisfy everyone. That I learn from life. BTW - you didn't need to post it twice. I got your message from EID's blog. Thanks though! 

GoodVibe

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#61) On April 01, 2009 at 6:56 PM, AnomaLee (28.50) wrote:

Since, I've rarely seen you contribute or comment on anyone's post but your own I just wanted to post the comment I made earlier on EDI's post before April 2nd and this is all over.

I just wanted to contribute to what TMFSinchiruna posted [whom I frequently debate]

I've seen an entire lot of players rise to the top ranks only to fizzle out months later. It's amazing how high the turnover is for the Top 100 players here. It's more amazing how high the turnover is for the top rated traders in the world, and how few persevere. A lot of people have come and gone since I've joined MF CAPs.

Every person will be questioned. Every person should question themselves. This is not a race. Investing is more like a triathlon. No single skill [theory, strategy] can always be used to maintain success over the entire course [of life]. Eventually, everyone becomes a victim of scale or life, and there is a wide range of those circumstances here.

If you are somehow objecting to objectivity because you truly believe that you are one of the top everlasting traders born into this world then I suggest that you learn the story of Jesse Livermore if you haven't done so already. The story does not end well.

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#62) On April 01, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Mary953 (71.56) wrote:

Mary finally found a computer and I find you taking on the world.  GV you are crazy.  Having a fun day?   ;-)  Hmmmm

 

 

Even if I don't quite believe that this is what you are really doing, you are still a champ in my book.

Mary 

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#63) On April 01, 2009 at 7:44 PM, GoodVibe4Ever (< 20) wrote:

The new cap is here Fools! The fun is yet to come.

Be happy, do good, and the rest will be taken care of.

GoodVibe

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#64) On April 01, 2009 at 7:49 PM, jester112358 (28.71) wrote:

Nice way to try to draw more attention to yourself-via an April fools joke.  However, you're in a very small pond, little fish.  Having read your description of "technical analysis", I think I'll stick to Alstry's spectral vector.  As Anoma pointed out, players come and go, trading over a 90 day period with unlimted capital (picks) means nothing.  By contrast, compare SpecBears ability to ancipate macro trends which demonstrates the most valuable asset any investor can have.  His average pick score is over 22 showing how little capital/leverage he used to acheive his score over a period of over 3 years.   One of my favorites, Rudolf Steiner used to be #2.  That is not why I picked him as a favorite and continue to follow him.  He provides useful information in his specialty interest: energy.  As for investing using leverage via time 2x and 3x ETHs-not very useful in real life.  An excuse for not understanding individual stocks and industries.

 There are no chart reading "traders" in the Forbes 400 for a good reason.  Do it long enough, as Jesse Livermore found out, and you'll go BK.

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#65) On April 01, 2009 at 11:20 PM, RainierMan (80.55) wrote:

If it's a joke it worked. Look at the interest in this blog.

If it's not a joke, then it takes first prize in pure ballseeness.

All this whining about the supposed arrogance or inappropriateness is silly. Half the posts here are one or the other or both. At least it's about investment rather than politics or music videos, etc, etc.

Go for it GV. This is the most intriguing concept put out there, joke or no joke. 

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