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July 04, 2012 – Comments (20)

100 years from now, our great grandchildren will be sitting in obselete classrooms, barely paying attention (some things will never change), as their teachers retell stories about the Robber Barons of the Computer Age. It will be said that back in the bad old days of the "free market" - circa 2012 - the computer industry was dominated by a few greedy capitalists. Computers, they will say, were toys of the rich. The poor had to pay high prices for poor quality. Many didn't have computers at all! To support these assertions, statistics will be presented showing the disparity between the performance of high-end computers and low-end "bargains", computers per capita now and then, and computer sales as a percentage of GDP over the preceeding century. Thankfully, the teachers will add, the government stepped in and saved the poor, providing inexpensive, quality computers for everyone.

We can imagine that in a few classrooms in our crumbling 2112 American empire, there will be lonely voices of dissent. Beside his dreary eyed counterparts, a student will object, audaciously pointing out that the computer industry hasn't made very much progress in the last 100 years. Furthermore, he'll make the outrageous claim that even the worst performing computers of the "free market" era were faster and less expensive than those the government came to produce.

His fellow students will wipe the cobwebs from their eyes long enough to project vile stares in his direction. 'What nonsense...,' they will think. 'Only a fool can think that private citizens can make something as complex as computers better than the government!'

The obtuse student's teacher, barely managing to hide her hostility, will say to the young man, "Tell me, who will build all of these computers if the government doesn't make them?"

"I don't know," he will say, "but someone will...."

 Who Will Build Them

 If this look into America's future seems far fetched to you, spend five minutes attempting to discuss personal responsibility with a modern day statist. It won't take long for one to chime in "but who will build the roads?" This meme is so common, Internet libertarians have turned it into a joke, repeating the phrase like zombies whenever a friend makes a strong point about the dangers of government. “Roooooaaaaads..... Who will build the roooaaads.....” asks the zombie statist.

I don't know. Someone will. Just like they did before the government. Just like they do now when government fails. Just like they do when government isn't pointing a gun to their head telling them they can't build them.

Just as the market used to provide medical care, long ago, before the government interventions escalated, creating a “need” for more intervention. Obamacare is just another step on the road to full blown nationalized health care, now cheered for by dithering unstudious idiots that cannot comprehed the past 100 years of government interference in market provided care. “Greeeeeeeed... Greeedyyyy insurance companies...” says the zombie statist.

And so it is with every industry of which I have studied. Private individuals create a service. Government, under the guise of helping the poor and usually at the behest of a few crony business partners, takes over/cartelizes/monopolizes the industry, blocks competition, creates chaos, and eventually sends the truth of the free market era down the Memory Hole. Enough generations pass and no one will even know that back in the bad old days of “greed run amock”, more people had access to a higher quality service than they do now. No one will ever remember that it was the cronies that we are taught to hate, that actually led the call for government intervention.

History is written by the victorious.

And anyone foolish enough to question it must hate the poor.

This is how permanent bondage to the State is made.

True Independence

The only path to true independence is an outright rejection of the State. I reject every utterance of the State, feeling quite comfortable that 99.9% of it is either lies or bad advice.   Today, I'll fry up a 1/2 lb of bacon and a few eggs, all cooked in wondeful farm fresh butter. It's healthier than a plate of disgusting, indegistible whole grains (State food) and it tastes better to boot. Then I'm going to log into work since I don't have any need to celebrate these goofy State holidays. Maybe I'll watch a baseball game – the ultimate pastoral American experience – and flip my middle finger at the TV during the 7th inning State worshipping festivities.

Have a great Dependence day!

David in Liberty
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#1) On July 04, 2012 at 5:07 PM, awallejr (34.17) wrote:

All while you sit in your comfy house on your comfy chair in your air conditioned room courtesy of the hundreds of thousands upon hundreds of thousands who gave their lives fighting for your ability to do so.

When you flip that bird imagine me flipping mine right back at you.

Happy Birthday America.

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#2) On July 04, 2012 at 5:12 PM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

LOL @ awallejr,

Uh since I spent 10 years in the Marines, I feel I know a little something about what it means to serve the State.

And I have no idea how my being a State Welfare Whore in the Marines contributed to air conditioning and home building, but if you say that's the case, it must be.

(Didn't realize those things are only possible if we murder brown people in countries thousands of miles away! Who knew?)

David in Liberty

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#3) On July 04, 2012 at 8:35 PM, HarryCaraysGhost (81.07) wrote:

David, I've got a question that has been hanging over my head since 9/11?

Why did'nt we continue to carpetbomb (or go to the extreme) Rather then put our fine young Men and Women in some god-forsaken desert.

Would've been easier then decades of war.

For that matter, why did we try and industralize said countries before that,  just for the oil...?

Happy 4th Man, those are just questions that roam my mind.


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#4) On July 04, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Louebsch (< 20) wrote:

LOL, This isn't memorial day or veterans day, it is Independence Day.

 This is the day in which our country declared independence from British rule. So it is not about the military giving us flat screen TVs, AC and "comfy chairs". IF it is about the military it is about how in the following months and years after the declaration of independence was signed, that the military DEFENDED the PEOPLE of this once great nation. At the time, we didn't even have a full blown military, it was a bunch of militias. You know, average citizens with guns. Without these militias being allowed to bare arms, (no not hang a set of bear arms in their living room, actually owning a rifle) who knows what would have happened. So if you want to celebrate the military on this day, then celebrate the great militias that fought to DEFEND this country. It is not a day to celebrate the modern military that ATTACKS "brown people" in far off lands with barely any clean running water under the guise of removing WMDs to make you feel "safer".

To those that serve or have served, I say thank you for trying to defend this nation. I'm sorry that you were used and lied to by our federal government. I hope you can find peace in your lives knowing that part of the reason you signed up to serve was that you were going to do the honorable and noble thing, and help defend this nation from real enemies. 

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#5) On July 04, 2012 at 10:22 PM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

Can I give Louebsch's comment 1,000,000 recs? Cuz it deserves it.

David in Liberty

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#6) On July 05, 2012 at 12:15 AM, awallejr (34.17) wrote:

No, because every time you are flipping the bird at the TV when "God Bless America" is being sung, I am flipping the bird right back at you.  Envision that always please.

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#7) On July 05, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Louebsch (< 20) wrote:

@ David, much appreciated, nice blog btw.

@HarryCarysGhost,This is a little off topic, what part of military industrial complex don't you understand? The US needs to be at war constantly in order for our economy to grow and survive. Between the military industrial complex, healthcare industrial complex, and the auto industrial complex, that covers about 90% of jobs in the country. The rest of the jobs are trades or service type jobs, i.e. plumber, waiter, maid, etc. 

So you ask why don't we carpet bomb them to oblivion? Well let me respond with, why don't we nuke them? Job is done with one bomb. If they are an imminent threat to our shores and our way of life, let's get the job done right and quickly. For argument's sake, let's say nuking another nation is inhumane. I think most people would agree with that, myself included. Did you know,  we have other weapons that are just as potent as a nuke but without the radiation after effects. Google MOAB or "daisycutter".  So why don't we just use a bunch of "daisycutters" and finish the job in 2 days without any of our troops going in or getting hurt? 

Obviously if we did that, we couldn't give billions or trillions of dollars to our military industrial complex. You know, those high powered lobbyists are paid very well because they are very good at what they do. That's no joke! So this is why we have decades of war instead of days of carpet bombing. Unfortunately for all of us, war is a business, and it is very profitable for governments and weapon manufacturers alike.

My question to you is why do you bring up 9/11? It was a single horrible event and has no relation to the MIC. I do not believe it was a "false flag" or that we deserved it. It was simply a group of guys that were pissed off at the US for bombing their families and decided to hit back. They got lucky. Turns out that our government used the opportunity to get our MIC involved. Do you remember how it took us months to come up with a plan of attack or "find" an enemy? How do you declare war on a group of pissed off people that have no homeland? Well they found a way to spin it and fabricated a story to go in and get the bad guy that was "harboring" the other bad guy. This in turn began the war on terror which somehow magically landed in Iraq. I think the Iraq war was for oil more than the MIC but it was probably for both.

Now today we are at war with a multitude of countries, some of which most people in the US can't find on a map. Help me out if I miss one, Yemen, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan?.

Obviously we are trying to go into Syria, (we are basically already there), and Iran. There are some unforseen issues before we go into Iran though, i.e. Russia and China, are not too keen on the idea.

Ok holy cow waaaaayyyy off topic! my apologies to David!

Hopefully you read this as educational or discussional and not as a personal attack. My apologies for some of my abrupt language.

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#8) On July 05, 2012 at 12:34 AM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

Envision that always please.

Um, no.

David in Liberty

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#9) On July 05, 2012 at 12:38 AM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

Thanks Louebsch.

All this stuff is great to talk about, but it's not really what this blog is about. I don't mind it, but I hope everyone gets the main point here, which is about how intervention creates a new history, destroys truth, and wins over the masses. It takes freedom with it, and leaves us in bondage.

David in Liberty

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#10) On July 05, 2012 at 12:48 AM, awallejr (34.17) wrote:

The bulk of the jobs Between the military industrial complex, healthcare industrial complex, and the auto industrial complex, that covers about 90% of jobs in the country.

Seriously?  Apparently you don't realize that the bulk of the jobs are SERVICE ORIENTED. Do a little more DD please.

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#11) On July 05, 2012 at 12:49 AM, awallejr (34.17) wrote:

Um, no.

You are free to engage in denial.  But it is there, look for it or not.

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#12) On July 05, 2012 at 12:55 AM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

But it is there, look for it or not.

That's nice. There's not one pointing back at you, unless you are a television set playing God Bless America during my baseball game. 

I like alcohol as much as the next guy.

David in Liberty

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#13) On July 05, 2012 at 12:56 AM, awallejr (34.17) wrote:

Trust me it is always there David.

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#14) On July 05, 2012 at 1:15 PM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:

That got a little weird...

David in Liberty

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#15) On July 05, 2012 at 3:37 PM, awallejr (34.17) wrote:

For my part I blame the booze.

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#16) On July 05, 2012 at 3:44 PM, ikkyu2 (98.12) wrote:

Extremely wealthy people govern the affairs of the rest of us.  Always been that way, always will be.  Why a few yammerheads choose to reject the ongoing pageant of democratic republicanism, that convenient opiate of the masses, baffles me.  Lloyd Blankfein doesn't care what an old Marine thinks, nor whether he lives or dies.

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#17) On July 05, 2012 at 4:11 PM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:


For my part I blame the booze.

LOL, booze and women... the death of us all.


Lloyd Blankfein doesn't care what an old Marine thinks

Hey, I'm not that old. And I'm pretty sure he's not reading this anyway.

David in Liberty

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#18) On July 05, 2012 at 4:41 PM, mtf00l (42.94) wrote:


I'm not usually one to dissagree or question however,... ok, I always question.

Computers versus roads, really?... Even Sesame Street would see "one of these things is not like the other".

Or was that the booze and women talking? :D

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#19) On July 05, 2012 at 7:49 PM, whereaminow (< 20) wrote:


I'm not sure I understand your point.

Mine was that roads are relatively simple to make, especially when compared to the complex products supplied to all consumers by the market.

Yet, it is so ingrained in our culture that roads could never be left to the free market, that few people even question it. It's forgotten that the market provided roads before government, and that our current road system would be so much better if not for the government.  

It is unthinkable that government would "take over" the computer industry. Yet just 150 years ago it was unthinkable that they would take over roads.

David in Liberty

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#20) On July 05, 2012 at 9:23 PM, HarryCaraysGhost (81.07) wrote:


Thank you,

I'll admit to fishing for an answer that I already conceptually understood. I just have trouble putting my thoughts into words as easily as many very intelligent Fools,(yourself obviously included in that group)

I just brought up 9/11 since that was the inflection point where the Government was able to unleash the war machine without majority outcry, or flat out revolution.

On that note, I think we could all use a drink...


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