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Heading further north



May 08, 2010 – Comments (5)

This summer I am heading to an Tundra Science camp north of Yellowknife which studies tundra ecology and research around the permafrost and that sort of thing.  It is a completely self contained community in that it has systems to produce all of its energy and water.  I am going to help supervise 12 high school students who will also attend.  I believe the camp has about 20 researchers from various universities for about 4 months of the year and it is shut down for the winter.  It should be interesting because the researchers all different areas of expertise.

On that note, a good editorial on climate change here.  Certainly being in the north local people notice the climate change far more then anywhere else.

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#1) On May 08, 2010 at 7:42 AM, LANaturist (98.00) wrote:

That editorial you linked to is nothing more than political dogma.  Gullible Warming is a hoax. 

Anybody who claims to believe in Gullible Warming and hasn't removed their home from the electrical grid, sold their automobile and avoids everything in life that comes from or uses fossil fuels can't be considered a true believer. 

Hope you have a safe trip and a good adventure though.



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#2) On May 08, 2010 at 5:55 PM, ChrisGraley (28.62) wrote:

The pacific institute is a farce. I love how the write the headline "Climate change and the Integrity of Science" and then conveniently leave out the part where scientists lied and manipulated data.

That being said, it's a terrific idea for a trip!

Some questions to ask...

When's the last time that the tundra has been in this condition?

What are the effects when trapped methane gas in the tundra escapes during a thaw? How does this compare to methane escaping from the oceans?

What effect does new plant growth on what was once tundra have on CO2?

How does this compare to the Mideval Warming period?

Does the shrinking of the hole in the ozone layer cause the tundra to be warmer or cooler?

Do global temperatures change uniformly across the globe or can it be warmer in the north while being cooler in the south?

Those are just some suggestions, but I think that you would be surprised with a few of the answers.

I hope that you and your students have a valuable experience.



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#3) On May 09, 2010 at 7:33 PM, devoish (71.86) wrote:

Knowing that the oil removed in one months time from one rig in the Gulf of Mexico is capable of extensive damage to four thousand square miles of gulf water, it is reasonable to expect that the oil removed over decades from almost 4000 oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico, when combined with the oil from tens of thousand more on land and on sea and a centurys worth of pumping and burning, subsequently being distributed into the atmosphere will have an adverse effect on that atmosphere.


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#4) On May 10, 2010 at 12:44 AM, ChrisGraley (28.62) wrote:

hmm, I taking students up north and examining the tundra.

devoish can only muster up a comment on oil.

Take that as you want dwot, but I take it as political beliefs trumping reason.

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#5) On May 10, 2010 at 10:13 AM, dwot (29.15) wrote:

Hmmm, looking at news on that oil problem:

BP said on Monday it had incurred $350 million in costs so far from the spill, suggesting the final bill could be much higher than many analysts predicted.

BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said the company, facing enormous pressure from the U.S. government and public, was pursuing multiple possible technical solutions in a bid to contain its gushing seabed well and eventually plug it.

This is going to affect off shore oil operations around the world.  How much phytoplankton is this killing?

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