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Health Care Reform-Now or Later?



August 16, 2009 – Comments (7)

I know that Health Care Reform is a very touchy question for many people, and is a very divisive subject at this time.

I would just like to pose the question, how many of you are actually against improving health care for many who do not currently have access to it, and how many are just concerned that during the middle of a recession is just not the right time to be pursuing it?

As a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, I am torn by the bitterness this seems to be creating. On the one hand, I think we need it, on the other, I don't think we can afford it at this time.

We also seem to be rushing through the whole process and I am afraid that what we will end up with is an expensive program, that will not help as much as needed, and will cause long term, unintended problems.

I realize this is not about investing persay, but spending massive amounts of money on it at this time, will have an impact on the economy that will have an impact on investing.

My wife and I are among the lucky ones who have good coverage, paid for by our employeers, and I am thankful for that, but at the same time I am worried about what impact a hurried, ill thought out program might bring about.

If there are funds available to pay for this program, than perhaps a short term solution would be to put into place a Fed. safety net to insure that those without any resources other than tips to the emergency room, would have the opportunity to visit a doctor when needed.

Then, when this recession is finally over, a deliberate, well thought out program, taking into consideration the unintended and unexpected side effects of a hurried up, thrown together plan, could be brought into being that would truly help everyone.

It needs to be addressed, but can we afford it now?

Would be interested in seeing your thoughts on the subject.

Please refrain from mindless, extreme conservative vs liberal posts, and try to think in more moderate and meaningful terms.  


7 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On August 16, 2009 at 6:23 PM, weg915 (< 20) wrote:

Heath Care Reform Later.  What is the rush?  Nothing is going to change or fall apart if we take 6 mos or a year or even 2 years to carefully and openly craft health care reform.  What I want is a plan  that's financially transparent. with clearly articulated goals, objectives and rationals.  Not some 1000 page obsuring mess. Although I never liked Rumsfeld, lets start talking about the knowns, unknowns and unkown unkowns.     

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#2) On August 16, 2009 at 9:55 PM, devoish (62.74) wrote:

I think a Single Payer healthplan like HR676 would be a good first step in solving the long term economic mess the USA is in. Unfortuntately what is being promoted by President Obama, HR3200, is not Single Payer. The plan he is moving through Congress will be a boon for insurers, especially if health co-ops replace a public option. Health Co-ops are a plan to get citizens to pay $200/month to a hospital for the checkups their insurers currently pay for, while they save $100/month on their insurance the first year.

If HR3200 passes, the financial economy, especially insurers, does well, while the ":real" economy, the people who stock the shelves, drive the trucks, fix the fridges, etc get hurt.

IMHO of course.

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#3) On August 16, 2009 at 9:58 PM, devoish (62.74) wrote:


So I guess my answer is HR676 as soon as possible.

HR3200 only if it includes a "robust" public option, and includes language specifically stating it is a States Right to implement Single Payer.

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#4) On August 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM, uclayoda87 (28.55) wrote:

Health care reform should be done in small steps, preferably when the economy is a bit more stable.  Our system of government was set up so that only small legislative changes would be made to the system, usually after adequate discussion.

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#5) On August 16, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Rebkong1 (< 20) wrote:

single payer??


let's see every single expample of implimentation of a single payer system  has been a complete and UTTER one gets care and if they do the ..its not even worth it ..once they get around to it (6 mos to 1.5 year later)



not to mention it  just gives the government more power and more control of our they already dont have enough of it as it is....

how about this....why doesn't the government drop the state boundaries for health insurance where all insurance companies can compete nationally for everyone ...start putting caps on med mal insurance...see what effects that would have on insurance


i'm betting it be pretty significant


and then after that...let's get the hell out of the middle east...close our borders...kick illegal aliens out of our country...downsize the growth of this government...start saving money...let companies that have made bad decisions fail or figure out ways to bail their ownselves out without using our money to do it....reinstall national prayer day back in the white house...and maybe put some people in the white house this next go around that are actually looking out for you us the GREAT people of this country and NOT THEMSELVES and the MASTERS of the BANKING industries that they work for


hey there is an idea 

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#6) On August 16, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Rebkong1 (< 20) wrote:

also that president would take the stance of :


if you dont like these rules (which is what the FOUNDERS of THIS GREAT NATION BELIEVED IN..he'd actually have the BALLS TO SAY...hey this is a free country if you dont like it ...the get the #### out....there are plenty other places for all of you that are destroying this great nation to live 

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#7) On August 16, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Rebkong1 (< 20) wrote:

and sorry in advance for the rant


but seriously people..i feel like im in a dream today


what happened to this country?  its just sad 

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