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December 02, 2010 – Comments (37)

I'm just curious.

How do you still love the government?

Who has done more for you, Amazon or Joe Lieberman?  Who has done more for freedom, Hillary Clinton or Julian Assange?   Did the Federal Reserve give you a loan?  How easy was it for you to manage your debt while Bailout Ben was sending billions overseas? Who bails out the rich?  Who benefits the poor? Who makes your life easier?  Who makes it harder? Can it be any more clear?

The State is your enemy. The market benefits mankind. The State destroys it.  

Opt Out of the State 

David in Qatar  

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#1) On December 02, 2010 at 12:17 PM, whereaminow (21.85) wrote:

Or perhaps you like being humiliated, stripped naked, and groped while your government bails out rich foreigners?  

Well, the comment thread is open. Start apologizing for your benevolent overlords.  

David in Qatar 

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#2) On December 02, 2010 at 12:47 PM, dbjella (< 20) wrote:

Hate is a strong word.   

I am amazed how more people aren't upset about what the Fed does.  I was talking to my friend last night about the Feds bailout actions and he told me to stop watching Fox news.  I think this subject gets memorialized as conspiracy theory.

BTW, I do tell my father from time to time to stop watching Fox :)

Your Bears are who we thought they were. 

 

 

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#3) On December 02, 2010 at 12:53 PM, davejh23 (< 20) wrote:

"Or perhaps you like being humiliated, stripped naked, and groped..." 

What's wrong with you?  Can't you see that your "freedom fondle" is for the good of the whole? 

"Hate is a strong word."

That's true...maybe not strong enough...

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#4) On December 02, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Jbay76 (< 20) wrote:

"Can't you see that your "freedom fondle" is for the good of the whole? " 

Are you being serious about this Davejh23?

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#5) On December 02, 2010 at 1:12 PM, whereaminow (21.85) wrote:

Yes, hate is a strong word. But if you're not upset by what you see happening, that is really concerning to me. 

I'm p*ssed off.  Isn't that the correct response?  To be angry?  Or should I just bend over and take it?

So yeah, I don't have any personal hatred for Lieberman (although I think he's a bully and I'd like to punch his f*cking teeth out) or Clinton or Palin or whoever.

But I think it's reasonable to be really really p*ssed off today. 

David in Qatar  

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#6) On December 02, 2010 at 1:44 PM, whereaminow (21.85) wrote:

Very well said, Mary.

Thanks!

David in Qatar  

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#7) On December 02, 2010 at 1:51 PM, 4everlost (29.55) wrote:

David,

You better watchout for the FCC and the Net Nuetrality Act when you post vitriolic, anti-American messages like this one!  Shouldn't you have a link to an opposing viewpoint?

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#8) On December 02, 2010 at 1:53 PM, whereaminow (21.85) wrote:

@4ever,

LOL, I think there's a blogger or two here that takes it upon themselves to balance out every whereaminow tirade.  Hopefully they'll stop by and save me from a government crackdown :)

David in Qatar 

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#9) On December 02, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Mary953 (74.69) wrote:

I LOVE OUR GOVERNMENT AND EVERY SINGLE THING THEY DO!!!

I am absolutely crazy about every single person in every single position of all branches of of the government and in every bureacracy for which it stands!

Signed, Mindless, Spineless Idiot

(Was that enough of a balanced, opposing viewpoint?)

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#10) On December 02, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Valyooo (99.45) wrote:

Even though I agree with you on most points and it frustrates me to  no end that when I say these things in my public finance class everybody yells at me saying I am insensitive to the poor etc (so stupid) and that the banks shouldnt be allowed to fail because it will hurt everyobyd (Stupid) and that rich peopel should be taxed way more heavily (stupid) and people say that its messed up that cops are getting laid off while unemployment isnt being extended (the stupidest of them all....do you want tax money to continue unemployment benefits, or to pay for more government jobs, you cant have both), I dont know why you are a hardcore fan of Assange.  Not only is he a rapist, but hes just a fear monger.  I  highly doubt he has any serious dirt on BAC, he only said that stuff to drive the share price down.  Amazon rejected him for a reason, this guys a joke.

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#11) On December 02, 2010 at 2:06 PM, pj19 (< 20) wrote:

Notice how they realsed a warrant for his arrest just as all of these diplomatic cables were being released?  The whole situation regarding him being a rapist suspect stinks to high heaven...

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#12) On December 02, 2010 at 2:07 PM, TMFUltraLong (99.95) wrote:

David,

Go start the rebellion, I'll get the pitchforks! =)

TMFUltraLong

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#13) On December 02, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Valyooo (99.45) wrote:

Is it too late to sign up for the position of makeshift torch carrier?

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#14) On December 02, 2010 at 2:22 PM, goldminingXpert (29.58) wrote:

Start apologizing for your benevolent overlords. 

Crickets chirping over here...

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#15) On December 02, 2010 at 2:41 PM, kdakota630 (29.72) wrote:

davejh23

What's wrong with you?  Can't you see that your "freedom fondle" is for the good of the whole? 

Argh!  You totally stole the line I was going to use, except I was going to call it a "freedom frisk."

whereaminow

Love the Lew Rockwell reference.

It's NOT left vs right.  It's the State vs You.

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#16) On December 02, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Rehydrogenated (32.44) wrote:

Hey, if you guys vote me into power I'll make the governmnet 100% better. I promise! :)

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#17) On December 02, 2010 at 3:00 PM, TMFUltraLong (99.95) wrote:

I'm actually reviving the Kodos & Kang 2012 campaign.

TMFUltraLong

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#18) On December 02, 2010 at 3:22 PM, mtf00l (46.49) wrote:

This will warm every government lovers heart!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/mother-kept-in-glass-cage-for-almost-an-hour-by-tsa-for-resisting-over-breast-milk.html

Coming to a public place near you soon!...

Additionally, voting isn't going to get it done. How much have you really been allowed to vote on in the past 10 years?  TARP? TSA? Iraq/Every other War/Police Action?  Oh, yeah you got to vote Tea Party instead of repulicrat!

By the way David, if I'm elected to the highest office of the land you will be Czar of Tax Reform.  I'll let your vivid imagination run away with you!  If you do a good job I'll make you Czar of Government Banking as well!

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#19) On December 02, 2010 at 3:23 PM, FreeMarkets (93.73) wrote:

Unfortunately freedom means very little to most people.  The average American thinks as long as they can travel where they want, they are free.  They have no issue with jack-booted thugs breaking into peoples homes - especially if there is an oz of pot to be found. 

Do you REALLY want a Revolution!  If so, bring back prohibition.

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#20) On December 02, 2010 at 3:50 PM, whereaminow (21.85) wrote:

Thanks for all the support guys (and gals, hehe)!  Like Mary said above, it's times like these when you find out you're not alone, that you're not the only one that is furious.  

There's a lot of good people on this website, and even when we disagree about policies and ideas, we still want many of the same goals.

I'm sorry if the overall tone of the last few posts has been quite harsh.  I notice that this happens to my posts when I don't have time to put together serious analysis.  Hopefully I'll be able to return to that soon.

Happy Holidays, everyone!  Thanks for the support and the wise words!

David in Qatar 

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#21) On December 02, 2010 at 5:15 PM, devoish (98.24) wrote:

Hi David,

just thought i'd stop in. I noticed you've missed me recently. Anyway since you're comparing children, I'd like to suggest that Government has done far more you than Hillary Clinton, Joe Lieberman or Julian Assange has.

The saddest thing I read in your posts us that in your mind every gov't action or inaction is wrong because it is government. Not because that action increases or decreases your well being, freedom, or opportunity.

Regards,

Steven

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1918074/pdf/ajhg00046

 

A thorough discussion of the history of the Human Genome Project can be found in an accompanyingpaper and elsewhere (Watson 1990; Jordan 1992; Juengst 1994).

In brief, government committees recommendedthe initiation of a Human Genome Project in 1988. The Department of Energy (DOE) and National Institutes of Health (NIH) began earmarking funds for directed research in 1987 and 1988, respectively, and the National Center for Human Genome Research division of the NIH was established in 1989.

 

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#22) On December 02, 2010 at 5:51 PM, whereaminow (21.85) wrote:

@devo,

So because the government can take my money at the point of a gun due to its comparative advantage in violence, and occasionally use my money for a science project that may or may not be possible in the market (we don't know either way), I should allow them to subject me to all manner of humiliations and tyrannies?

I don't think so.  The mafia occasionally did nice things for people as well.  That's not a proper litmus test.

David in Qatar 

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#23) On December 02, 2010 at 5:51 PM, devoish (98.24) wrote:

I have another one.

In the Uk there is a Northwest Regional Development Agency, funded by the UK Government and the European Union.

They helped fund the University of Bolton's Institute for Materials Research and Innovation.

You get "a flexible piezoelectric fibre that can be woven to create natural energy-harnessing fabrics".

Regards,

Steven

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#24) On December 02, 2010 at 6:04 PM, devoish (98.24) wrote:

It was your test. You listed the questions.

You really do need me, don't you,

Steven

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#25) On December 02, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Harold71 (22.04) wrote:

David, I also find it quite incredible how people will devoutly (or devoishly? :) support their own enslavement, 'til the bitter end.

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#26) On December 02, 2010 at 8:11 PM, devoish (98.24) wrote:

devoish the devout, harold of the harp, baloo of the woods.

whatever.

I would love to see David get some balance too.

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#27) On December 02, 2010 at 9:01 PM, HarryCarysGhost (99.69) wrote:

UL it's not my fault I voted for Kodos ; )

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#28) On December 02, 2010 at 9:36 PM, outoffocus (23.22) wrote:

It appears a few comments got deleted.  Whats that all about?

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#29) On December 02, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Harold71 (22.04) wrote:

Interesting...it does say 30 comments on the main page...yet currently there are 28... (this being #29).

Harold of the Harp

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#30) On December 02, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Starfirenv (< 20) wrote:

David- Have you seen this? Change to believe in.

http://www.open.salon.com/blog/dennis_loo/2009/06/14/dod_training_manual_protests_are_low-level_terrorism

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/aclu-challenges-defense-department-personnel-policy-regard-lawful-protests-%E2%80%9Clow-le

I think making the list could be forever. Be careful and stay safe my Foolish brother.

Mark in Belize

 

 

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#31) On December 03, 2010 at 10:25 AM, kdakota630 (29.72) wrote:

outoffocus & Harold71

There was some spam that got deleted.  That could be the discrepancy.

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#32) On December 03, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Turfscape (40.35) wrote:

HCG Wrote:
"UL it's not my fault I voted for Kodos"

That is my most-referenced Simpsons quote. I pull that one out virtually every time I wind up stuck in the middle of a political debate between some democrat and a republican who like to think that they are actually different from one another.

It's usually met with blank stares...

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#33) On December 03, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Atheist4816 (< 20) wrote:

I like to use the car as an analogy.

You'd all like to be able to drive in any direction anywhere for free. However this means there is no profit in roads unless they are subsidized by gas companues. In which case each gas company would open their own stretch of road and either charge you for using it or force you to fill up.... or car companies that would onnly allow chevys down some routes and prius' down others... or you'd be stopping every 5 minutes to pay a toll (a bit like coming out of Denver Airport and that's no fun)

You only have to look athe US health system (the most inefficient, expensive and non uniform I've encountered after living in 4 separate countries) to see unfettered free markets alone don't work. Add human nature into the mix and chaos would resume

It takes a combination of  personal responsibility, market (guided) freedom and govenment regulation to make the thing work. Otherwise it's like removing the H from H2O and then still trying to drink it.

It is ridiculously specious to have an either/or conversation. 

 

 

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#34) On December 03, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Turfscape (40.35) wrote:

Atheist4816 wrote:
"You only have to look athe US health system (the most inefficient, expensive and non uniform I've encountered after living in 4 separate countries) to see unfettered free markets alone don't work"

Bit of a stretch to call the current US health system an unfettered free market.

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#35) On December 04, 2010 at 7:56 AM, hanginout (76.20) wrote:

I can solve some of the comment numbering discrepancy but it concerns me.  I wrote (as Mary) that it was pointless to hate anyone, especially a nameless, faceless entity like the government.

What is possible is to Vote, to get involved, to work putting good people in places of power and support public initiatives to change things.  Above all, keep talking to each other so that we know that we are not single, solitary individuals.  There is more power and more ability to change the system if you know that others feel the same way that you do.

That comment is now gone and so is my ability to sign into my Fool account.  I am having to use my paper trading account.  I wonder if the two are related.  If so, I will be extremely concerned.  There was nothing in the comment to justify it being removed.

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#36) On December 04, 2010 at 8:13 AM, FleaBagger (28.88) wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that David responded to Mary's comment before she posted it?

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#37) On December 04, 2010 at 10:04 AM, hanginout (76.20) wrote:

FB, I am paraphrasing the comment that I left as Mary953 back at the top.  It was comment number 5 when he responded to it and it was under my normal blogging name.  I don't use this id to blog or to comment.  If that comment is the reason that I cannot log in now as Mary (and the reason that I cannot access Stock Advisor), then I will be more than a bit upset.

I reposted the comment because I want to see if it is removed again.  ;-)

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