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October 07, 2013 – Comments (22) | RELATED TICKERS: DO , N , E

Eisenhower must be rolling over in his grave.  Ever since the Republicans gained control in the House EVERY single year they try to play brinksmanship.  Every single year they wreck havoc with my portfolio.  Every single year they try to cost me money.  Futures down 15.

Stop it Boehner.  Stop putting this on Obama.  It isn't.  It is on you and your party.  I don't blame Obama for not wanting to negotiate with a gun to his head.  Stop using it.  Try something new like negotiating in good faith.  Stop using me and the rest of the people as hostages.  I am tired of it.  I am tired of being used by your party as a bargaining chip. 

You pulled this in 2011 over the debt ceiling and cost us a 19% market drop and drop in credit rating.  You pulled this last year over the whole fiscal cliff, willing to let my taxes increase.  And you are pulling it again now. Point your finger all you want.  There is NO reason to play brinksmanship yet again and I am just tired of being a victim of this nonsense.

Put the bill on the floor and lets see if there aren't 16 Republicans who wouldn't vote for a clean CR.

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#1) On October 07, 2013 at 10:10 AM, edwjm (99.87) wrote:

Well said !!!

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#2) On October 07, 2013 at 10:56 AM, awallejr (81.17) wrote:

Do these Republicans even listen to themselves?  They say it could all end tomorrow if only Obama would negotiate.  It could end today if they put away the gun.

I keep hearing about how Tip O'Neil was able to work deals with Reagan and Newt Gingrich with Clinton.  But those days are long gone.  The game has changed.  We allow all these private organizations, ideologically directed, to now spend whatever they want.  Wouldn't surprise me if the medical device companies were contributing to Ted Cruz.

Gerrymandering has also gotten out of hand where certain members only need to care about their district, a district where they will never be challenged seriously.

Tip and Newt at least had some power over their members.  Boehner simply doesn't.  Why he wants the job I don't know.  But he should get a spine and set his house in order or inherit the wind.

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#3) On October 07, 2013 at 10:59 AM, awallejr (81.17) wrote:

16 Republicans who wouldn't

Just noticed this error ;/  Or perhaps it could be true.  Obviously I meant "would." 

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#4) On October 07, 2013 at 2:36 PM, drgroup (68.96) wrote:

"Stop it Boehner.  Stop putting this on Obama"

Wow!!! You can't or won't even look at what the repubs have passed and was not even looked at by reid and nobama. The repubs have done a lot of stupid things over the last five years of nobama's tyrannical control, but not caving in to this country killer is not one. Wait till more of those poor people who have insurance receive their bills over the next couple of months. That is when close minds like yours will open up and be exposed to the true destructive force of the aca. Good by to any disposable income, welcome in the depression... 

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#5) On October 07, 2013 at 2:53 PM, drgroup (68.96) wrote:

PS: love your picks: DO-N-E

 

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#6) On October 07, 2013 at 2:58 PM, outoffocus (23.10) wrote:

" That is when close minds like yours will open up and be exposed to the true destructive force of the aca. Good by to any disposable income, welcome in the depression... "

Unfortunately I'd have to agree.  As it stands, under the ACA, my healthcare costs will go UP via higher premiums and lower benefits.  Has anyone even LOOKED at these ACA insurance plans?  They are all outrageously expensive.  And don't be stuck with an employer who has a crappy plan, then you are REALLY screwed. 

That tax penalty is starting to look REALLY attractive right about now... 

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#7) On October 07, 2013 at 2:59 PM, outoffocus (23.10) wrote:

PS: I'm done with the entire 2 party system...

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#8) On October 07, 2013 at 3:49 PM, drgroup (68.96) wrote:

Has anyone even LOOKED at these ACA insurance plans?"

YES!!! They represent an open book for insurers to make massive profits and provide minimum coverage. By this I simply mean that paying for coverage that will not bankrupt your family you are forced into premiums with absurdly high deductibles. By the time you achieve your $10-20K deductible and can actually use the insurance, you are broke and can't pay for your  health care premium. It's a Catch 22.

Pay the tax penalty and pay out of pocket for doctor visits and scripts. You will be money ahead of this shill of a program. This only creates economic slaves and promotes involuntary servitude. I thought we fought a civil war to break away from this....

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#9) On October 07, 2013 at 3:59 PM, drgroup (68.96) wrote:

Horribly said!!! Love your picks: DO-N-E.

See if this gets edited...

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#10) On October 07, 2013 at 6:11 PM, awallejr (81.17) wrote:

Listen this really isn't about ACA anymore even Boehner admits to that train having left the station.  It really is a rant against how broken the system has become.  I would be equally angry with the Democrats should they pull the same nonsense. 

But I am just tired of these RED Swans (self-inflicted brinksmansips).  It is hard enough trying to invest in a game generally rigged against the average retail investor as it is.  I don't need these Red Swans every single year.

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#11) On October 07, 2013 at 8:40 PM, rofgile (99.27) wrote:

Let the house vote, if a normal budget bill fails, then Boehner is right and Obama should negociate.

It seems like Boehner is trying to bluff, when everyone knows he doesn't have the cards.  What is the point?  

-Rof 

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#12) On October 08, 2013 at 12:37 AM, awallejr (81.17) wrote:

The "point" is that he is spineless.  He is letting a small minority dictate his actions.  He is no Tip or Newt.  I really don't care that people who know him think he is a decent guy.  He has been hurting me for the last 3 years now.  So forgive me if I don't like him. 

Gain control of your caucus Boehner.  Extend the CR and the debt ceiling with the proviso that both parties will set up a negotiation team. You won with the sequester, which by the way I liked.  So stop extorting.  Stop with the "common ground" Norquist lingo and go for COMPROMISE. But you aren't getting it if you keep pointing a gun at others.

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#13) On October 08, 2013 at 8:16 AM, drgroup (68.96) wrote:

"The "point" is that he is spineless"

I could not agree more. boehner was all for aca and immigration reform up until public sentiment forced him to change his stance. I also do not like the melba toast boehner. But just for the record, he has tried to establish negotiation teams and reid /nobama refuse to participate. The only gun being used here is held by the dems. Can't you see by the selective type of closures of parks and monuments the kind of bitter, angry man your pres is. He has violated the ethics that are the very foundation of the office he holds. Disgraceful....

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#14) On October 08, 2013 at 10:05 AM, rofgile (99.27) wrote:

I actually was thinking that maybe the US government should close for a week or two every year, so that people see what all the government does.

It is good to realize that the government does useful things such as the USDA inspections, FDA drug testing, monuments and parks we love to visit, funding of new ideas in science, etc.

Those are things it is easy to forget, maybe we need to be reminded once and a while. 

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#15) On October 08, 2013 at 11:52 AM, lemoneater (80.52) wrote:

@ #14 That is an interesting idea with some merit, rofgile. We do take different services for granted. But I do think that they did not need to close the websites for the parks. That seemed more for a statement than for a necessity. 

Ironically, we decided to camp at a National Park this year. Politics do affect ordinary people, but it was an odd ramification this time for me. Fortunately, we had not yet gotten our reservations so we were able to choose a private campground nearby at twice the cost.

 

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#16) On October 08, 2013 at 2:51 PM, awallejr (81.17) wrote:

@13  Can you please exercise your right to think for yourself?  All I hear are the same arguments presented on Fox or Kudlow.  Love me or hate me but one thing I do is speak my mind here.  I have no hidden agenda.  I try giving people helpful investment advice for the love of the game.  I also address events that can impact me financially.

Stop with how nice the Republicans are because they want to keep the parks open.  Most Americans simply aren't that stupid.  EVERYTHING can be opened right now BUT FOR the House Republicans.

Personally I never respond well to threats.  Reverse psychology can often be effective on me, well within reason.  But I don't like it when a gun is pointed at me by the Republicans.  And they are doing it now.  I have a 3 strikes your out mentality.  They threatend me in 2011.  They threatened me in 2012.  And now they threaten me again.

S&P now down 30 points. And that is the market starting to get concerned.

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#17) On October 08, 2013 at 5:08 PM, drgroup (68.96) wrote:

awallejr...

 Did you have a  bad day on the market. Regardless, it does not give you the right to react in such a negative style with some one who might have an opposing position to the points you hold so dear.

You have no idea where I get my view points from and you sound childish spouting the worn out chant about fox news.  You also are incapable of understanding the basic principal of how our gov works. Just because a pres wants something does not by any extremes of the imagination mean he gets it. We have THREE branches of govmt. Each one has their own wants and need to take into account the will of the people. Maybe from were you come from it's not done that way. But this is still America, not some third world country run by a tyrant.

Stop whing about your loses in the market. If you don't know how to move in this crazy enviroment, then buy annuities... 

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#18) On October 08, 2013 at 6:27 PM, awallejr (81.17) wrote:

Oh cut the nonsense  you spewed idiotic names upon names on the President of the United States in almost all your responses in many threads.  You refuse to remove your blinders.  I don't think you can be that naive but you are starting to appear to be obtuse.

I know full well how the process works.  But The Supreme Court decision in Citizen's United changed the game along with excessive Gerrymandering.  If you think one branch says we are holding a gun to your head with the CR and Debt ceiling is the way to foster an atmosphere of negotiating in good faith then keep watching Fox. 

Afterall you were the one who didn't even know McCain was a Republican as per another thread.  They'll teach you that at least. And sorry but presidential elections are pretty well advertised.

If you can't see that this is not an issue about having a bad day in the market but about another potential world wide financial disaster please go away. Go read all my predictions on this site over the years.  I have a pretty good accuracy rating (I don't mean my caps stock picks).  And I am telling you the Republicans will lose the House.  They are pushing an agenda that most people simply don't want.  This is no longer the party of my parent's or me. Copied from a thread by Devoish, here is Eisenhower's 1956 platform (he was a Republican President in case you didn't know):

Under the Republican Administration, as our country has prospered, so have its people. This is as it should be, for as President Eisenhower said: "Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."

The Eisenhower Administration has brought to our people the highest employment, the highest wages and the highest standard of living ever enjoyed by any nation. Today there are nearly 67 million men and women at work in the United States, 4 million more than in 1952. Wages have increased substantially over the past 3 1/2 years; but, more important, the American wage earner today can buy more than ever before for himself and his family because his pay check has not been eaten away by rising taxes and soaring prices.

The record of performance of the Republican Administration on behalf of our working men and women goes still further. The Federal minimum wage has been raised for more than 2 million workers. Social Security has been extended to an additional 10 million workers and the benefits raised for 6 1/2 million. The protection of unemployment insurance has been brought to 4 million additional workers. There have been increased workmen's compensation benefits for longshoremen and harbor workers, increased retirement benefits for railroad employees, and wage increases and improved welfare and pension plans for federal employees.

In addition, the Eisenhower Administration has enforced more vigorously and effectively than ever before, the laws which protect the working standards of our people.

Workers have benefited by the progress which has been made in carrying out the programs and principles set forth in the 1952 Republican platform. All workers have gained and unions have grown in strength and responsibility, and have increased their membership by 2 millions.

Furthermore, the process of free collective bargaining has been strengthened by the insistence of this Administration that labor and management settle their differences at the bargaining table without the intervention of the Government. This policy has brought to our country an unprecedented period of labor-management peace and understanding.

We applaud the effective, unhindered, collective bargaining which brought an early end to the 1956 steel strike, in contrast to the six months' upheaval, Presidential seizure of the steel industry and ultimate Supreme Court intervention under the last Democrat Administration.

The Eisenhower Administration will continue to fight for dynamic and progressive programs which, among other things, will:

Stimulate improved job safety of our workers, through assistance to the States, employees and employers;

Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers;

Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service and improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system;

Protect by law, the assets of employee welfare and benefit plans so that workers who are the beneficiaries can be assured of their rightful benefits;

Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex;

Clarify and strengthen the eight-hour laws for the benefit of workers who are subject to federal wage standards on Federal and Federally-assisted construction, and maintain and continue the vigorous administration of the Federal prevailing minimum wage law for public supply contracts;

Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable;

Continue to fight for the elimination of discrimination in employment because of race, creed, color, national origin, ancestry or sex;

Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment;

Revise and improve the Taft-Hartley Act so as to protect more effectively the rights of labor unions, management, the individual worker, and the public. The protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively is the firm and permanent policy of the Eisenhower Administration. In 1954, 1955 and again in 1956, President Eisenhower recommended constructive amendments to this Act. The Democrats in Congress have consistently blocked these needed changes by parliamentary maneuvers. The Republican Party pledges itself to overhaul and improve the Taft-Hartley Act along the lines of these recommendations.

That certainly isn't their's now. We can't keep doing this every year where a party keeps threatening financial armageddon.

Now please troll elsewhere or go start your own blogs spewing your vitriols.  I am sure you will take glee watching things crash.

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#19) On October 09, 2013 at 9:57 AM, drgroup (68.96) wrote:

"Afterall you were the one who didn't even know McCain"

I was being sarcastic, in the context of the statement it should have been obvious.

"We can't keep doing this every year where a party keeps threatening financial Armageddon."

Your pres/party is responsible for the 17 trillion deficit. The repubs/conservatives will win big in both the house and senate. .I'll troll where I feel like it, just as you do...

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#20) On October 09, 2013 at 11:02 AM, awallejr (81.17) wrote:

First of all I doubt it and I can't imagine how anyone would think you were being sarcastic.  But nice try.

Second, way not to even use independent thought and at least try to discuss my Eisenhower topic above.

Third, while you suggest you know how the system works, I doubt you even know what the three branches are without googling it.  To be fair Sen. Schumer didn't know either.  And if you really did understand how the process works you would know that  CONGRESS authorizes expenditures.  The President only executes on it. 

However it is never popular to raise the debt so you had a tendency of seeing the authorization piggybacked on other bills in the past.  It was not a product of negotiation like Boehner tried to argue.  It was a way of "hiding" it from the public.

And finally, you are right you are free to continue to make yourself look foolish wherever you wish.

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#21) On October 09, 2013 at 1:01 PM, drgroup (68.96) wrote:

Chuckle!!! Your Eisenhower topic is on the money, but to try and discuss anything with you is folly...

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#22) On October 09, 2013 at 1:10 PM, awallejr (81.17) wrote:

K

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