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May 12, 2011 – Comments (6)

In my previous blog, the Alstrybaters accused Alstry of being factually wrong.  The fun part about the Digital Age is everything is in the open and available on archives for review.  Let's see exactly what Alstry posted:

In the Agricultural Age, most Americans functioned as Farmers and Slaves.  When the Cotton Gin and Tractor was invented...the need for MOST farmers and slaves was eliminated.

This is FACTUALLY correct, when the cotton gin and tractor were invented, the NEED for most farmers and slaves was eliminated.  So the folowing statement by catoismymotor hold much credibility?

You are either so wrong through ingorance or a liar looking to stir the pot.

Nothing in my statement referenced that the Civil War had anything to do with the invention of the tractor.  But catoismymotor invents the following:

In your statement you seem to think that the tractor was the savior of enslaved people at the time of the Civil War. That is difficult since it was not invented until 1892, 27 years after the war ended.

Then to dig his hole even deeper, Catoismymoter goes on to state this irrelevant statement:

You also stated that there was no need for slaves once the cotton gin was invinted. If that is so then why did the population of slaves increase from 700,000 to 2,500,000 from the time it was patented in 1796 to 1850?

First, as is clearly evident above, I stated the need for MOST farmers and slaves were eliminated by the invention of the tractor AND cotton gin...this is factually correct and irrefutable.  Second, and more on point to his nonsensical comment, the fact that the population of slaves increased is really not relevant to my comment about tractors and cotton gins...simply to the fact that there were more slaves in 1850 than in 1796....but that is a collateral issue to the key issue about NEED.

When the conjunctive AND is used in statutory construction, BOTH must be present to function.  You can take one without the other.

Then I make the following statement:

This was a very convulsive period in American History because you had a nation where most of the population really had nothing to do.....so they did what comes naturally to most humans with idle time....they started to kill each other in a very uncivil Civil War.

First, as we moved through the 1800s it did become a very convulsive period in American History.  Second, as admitted by Catoismymotor himself, the cotton gin reduced the labor need for removing seeds....but clearly it did not reduce the need for the female slaves to service the white masters nor much else for the purpose of slaves.

However, that said...with fewer people needing to remove seeds, there was more idle time especially as farm technology improved from 1800 to 1860....and the rest is history as idle hands are the devil's workshop.

Please note...no where in any of my post was it stated that the invention of the tractor and cotton gin was the cause of the Civil War.  In fairness to Cato, I understand how he could be confused....just like no where in the press will it be stated that the adoption of the internet and computers replacing people was the cause of World War 3.

Remember, the winner always writes history.....and my guess is it will be no different this time.

6 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On May 12, 2011 at 4:47 PM, mtf00l (43.58) wrote:

Without reading past "This is FACTUALLY correct", the "jury", CAPS bloggers, have ruled against you.  You may object all you like however, you are overruled.

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#2) On May 12, 2011 at 4:53 PM, alstry (35.03) wrote:

sorry....you are in the wrong room...go back to class;)

trial ad is next period

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#3) On May 12, 2011 at 5:30 PM, RagingBullish (< 20) wrote:

Careful with that Alstrybation, it'll make ya grow hair on yer knuckles!

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#4) On May 12, 2011 at 5:58 PM, mtf00l (43.58) wrote:

Hee hee

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#5) On May 12, 2011 at 8:48 PM, ikkyu2 (99.38) wrote:

Most Americans already do nothing and there is no need for them.  There is a need to keep them chasing dollars which they can use to feed the mortgage payments on their sorry little homes, which they feel chained to.  Otherwise they might do something unpalatable with their free time.

It benefits everyone when the dollars used in this exercise are fundamentally worthless, alstry.  Why can't you just accept that?

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#6) On May 13, 2011 at 7:02 AM, catoismymotor (38.90) wrote:

Nice try. You were wrong. You continue to be wrong. You were caught. Admit your error and move forward. Trying to save face by backing up your previous post with more innacuracies is sad.

 

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