August 12, 2009
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LMAO, stay indoors where it's warm and fuzzy, Paul.
David in Qatar
LOL! I don't think that's a representative sampling, but it's still funny how that backfired on him the way it did.
I love it when Krugman gets "owned"!
He is so very wrong in his entire approach to the crisis ... and people needs to figure that out very quickly. We'll know we have a chance at turning the tide toward meaningful reversal of our present destructive path once Krugman's precepts are fundamentally overthrown and discredited.
How about this survey of 1,800 Canadians, not the seven in the room with Krugman... “With more than eight in 10 Canadians supporting public solutions to make public health care stronger, there is compelling evidence that Canadians across all demographics would prefer a public over a for-profit health-care system,” said Nik Nanos, president of Nanos Research.
Hmm, well when was the last time Canadiens had free market health care? Most Canadiens have never seen it.
So it's a really stupid survey. It's like asking a Russian in 1970 which car he prefers, the Soviet one or the evil bourgeois capitalist cars he has never seen. Well, he's seen one and not the other so there you go.
Think for yourself. It's an amazing power.
While I don't loathe Krugman the way that most people do on this website, I still found this quite funny...
Lately, the sales pitch for health care reform seems to be revolving around the fact that the under the proposed plan, insurers won't be able to drop your coverage when you become deathly ill. Is this presently a frequent practice for insurance companies?
I work with Candadians quite a bit (in Toronto and Quebec) and they are generally happy with their health care. Their was a great piece on NPR this week on it with a great quote - "when a Canadian has to go to the US for care that isn't available in Cananda it is just like when someone gets struck by lightning - it doesn't happen very often but when it does everyone talks about it."
As far as them not being qualified to choose since they haven't had a free market health care system for a while, let's turn that around on the US and say WE aren't qualified to choose because we haven't had the system being proposed in effect so how could we have a valid opinion? lol
The only thing we really need to know here is that some people with quite a lot of money don't really want us to have it. By definition that means it will be good for us :) Don't let the scare tactics fool you this will be very good for the average American and not so good at all for the sectors in the healthcare that gouge us right now.
The Economic Calculation Problem of the Socialist Commonwealth by Ludwig von Mises.
That is why I oppose Socialization of anything, including medicine.
David in Qatar
To suggest that Canadians cannot form a valid opinion because they have had public health care for a couple decades is quite strained logic. Not only can the same exact argument be used against those who live in the USA who oppose gov care, but its just on its face absurd because it makes a grand assumption that somehow they are not aware of the happenings that go on right across their boarder. They can see the private system just fine and also have relatives and friends who live among their southern neighboors so they do understand what it is like and with a vast majority enjoy their current system much better than the one offered in the USA. No system is perfect and there will always be flaws to point out, but the Yankee system is clearly broke and offers less service for more money, other health care systems in developed countries seem to have far fewer flaws
I wasn't aware that the U.S. has a private system. I thought it was Congressionally mandated care. Oh that's right, it is. It's not a private system at all. It is a heavily regulated and bureaucratically managed system.
And my point is not absurd. It's quite valid. Public opinion means little if the public has no experience with non-government-involved health care.
That is why logic would come in handy.
Experience tells me that the VA sucks. Research tellls me that Medicare and Medicaid suck. The Post Office tells me that gvoernment service sucks. Logic tells me that Socialism is a disaster.