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November 30, 2009 – Comments (10)

Sometimes Jstegma likes to know what the left is talking about and today they are talking about trying not to get ripped off by slick marketing.

Is Your Eco-Label Lying?

Sure, it says it's green. But what's that really mean?—By Rebecca Clarren 

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#1) On November 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, ease1 (97.12) wrote:

This is part of the comercialization of Green.  Companies must adjust and proclaim their products green or risk loosing customers that follow the every growing green movement.  IBM is a great example.

My $.10 worth.

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#2) On November 30, 2009 at 10:21 PM, devoish (71.65) wrote:


Yes, that is exactly what is going on. This link is to help the people who give a sh.. understand what the labeling means. No disrespect intended toward the people who do not give a sh..

But then, the first fight was a labeling law.

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#3) On November 30, 2009 at 10:40 PM, ease1 (97.12) wrote:

Well, to some extent I do give a sh.., ok well perhaps its just a small tur...

I just thought it was funny how IBM was always putting that bunny commercial on TV all the time trying to sell services and servers.

Thanks -

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#4) On November 30, 2009 at 11:26 PM, RUMBLINtasty (< 20) wrote:

thanks devoish, this was pretty helpful.

I always found the term "organic' to be also too vague to be useful.

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#5) On November 30, 2009 at 11:48 PM, ChrisGraley (28.65) wrote:

Just my opinion, but you shouldn't make a post talking about labels and the refer to a label like "the left" in your first sentence. Your hypothosis is correct though and companies promise much more than they deliver in all cases.

They want you to buy their tub of lard, so they put on the package "tube of lard lite" Your stupid and you don't know what "tub of lard lite" means, but you buy it anyway, because you know that the normal tub of lard is bad for you.

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#6) On December 01, 2009 at 1:28 AM, RUMBLINtasty (< 20) wrote:

I personally buy "lard free lard"


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#7) On December 01, 2009 at 9:20 AM, devoish (71.65) wrote:


I linked to an article that helped readers understand the labeling on the products they buy for the reason I stated. Jstegma posted a few times that he liked to know what the left was talking about and linked to articles that were not "left", mislabeling them IMHO. Plus, the whole story belies the far "right wing" labeling the "left" as a bunch of innocent do-gooders with no idea how the world works. Unfortunately somewhere in between the people who have worked to create real standards and the people willing to misrepresent (lie?) what they are selling are perfectly capable people who have not run across the legal definitions (or lack thereof) of labeling terminology and can be "sold" products with meaningless eco-labeling instead of the the environmentally friendlier products they hope to buy.


I am glad you understand the term "organic" has a legal and specific meaning unlike "hypoallergenic".

I think you mean "fat free" lard.

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#8) On December 01, 2009 at 10:12 AM, SolarisKing (< 20) wrote:

The word "organic" is owned by the Federal Government of the United States of America. Using it without permission is a 10k fine (i think) for selling, or even writing it on your truck.

   As an organic farmer, i assure you that the feds come to our farm every year and check it. There is also the ability to do soil samples if needed. Also, if there is a complaint or question by a third party, the feds do a spot check, where they walk in unannounced.

All those other words (natural, lite, green, eco, etc) are unregulated, and mean NOTHING. 

What i mean to say is, don't let some scammer with a gadget keep you from eating organic food.
   But what's almost more important is eating local food.

Our farm only grows organic, and our distribution business only sells LOCAL ORGANIC. 90%+ of the food we eat hear is grown by folks here in the valley that we know, and visit, and work with.

  If you can afford it, which most of you can, you should do your best to find local organic food. It's good for you, and your wife, and your kids, and your neighbors, and your strangers, and your unborn, and even the chinese.


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#9) On December 01, 2009 at 10:28 AM, lemoneater (57.17) wrote:

Go Solaris! I buy from a local dairy that is organic in everything but name. They cannot afford to call themselves organic, but they are. Their cheese is delicious.

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#10) On December 01, 2009 at 2:22 PM, devoish (71.65) wrote:


I could not have said that any better than you just did. I am certified by NOFA and to put it lightly, they are sticklers for detail and I am glad of that.


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