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Library of President Barack Obama



June 12, 2010 – Comments (14)

The Library of President Barack Obama

Exhibit 1:  Guantanomo Bay Prison)  President Obama promised to shut down Guantanomo Bay Prison by January 2010.  Guantanomo Bay continues to be in operation today housing the most violent terrorists in the world...

While President Obama sought to move Khaleid Sheik Mohommad to New York City and other terrorists to high security prisons in Michigan or elsewhere, none of that happened due to mass protests from family members of 9/11 and residents who lived in the city of the location of the targeted prison.

Exhibit 2:  Economic Recovery) President Obama successfully fought for and past through Congress and signed into law the Economic Recovery Act of 2009.  This was the largest economic legislation in legislative history totally $787 billion.  President Obama's promise was to make sure the unemployment rate never goes any higher than 8%.   Today it stands at 9.7%.

Exhibit 3:  Health Care Reform)  President Obama was the first ever in over 50 years to sign into law Health Care reform legislation.  The Health Care bill promises to cut the deficit in the first 10 years and significantly cut it in 20 years while providing tens of millions of the uninsured a Government regulated health care plan through the health care exchange.   So far the health care exchange is not up and running and the Doctor Fix costing billions and billions of dollars is on the verge of putting Health Care Reform deeply in the Red immediately and significantly in the red in the next 20 years.

The President promised that everyone could keep their doctor and their health care plan if they liked their doctor and health care plan.  But, without passage of the Doctor Fix medicare patients will lose their doctor and the Health Care Plan contains many mandates that have already bankrupted some smaller health care insurance companies not prepared to handle the cost structure that Obamacare mandates required.  This meant that for those companys that can still exist profitably, the health care plans are still changed to comply with the Governement.  While health care plans from smaller companys that can't continue to run profitably will go away.

Exhibit 4:  Cutting the Deficit in 1/2)  President Obama promised to cut the deficit in half before the end of his 1st term in office.  That didn't happen...  The deficit grew more than 4 times in size and the overall debt more than doubled under President Obama's tenure.

Exhibit 5:  Home Mortgage Restructuring)  President Obama put forth one of the most ambitious plans in decades to restructure home mortgages by allowing certain home owners on the verge of foreclosure that have homes worth less than what they owe on their motgage to restructure those loans.   To date only a few hundred home owners have successfully restructured their mortgage while tens of thousands were forced to foreclose due to lengthy, beuracratic, waiting periods and mistakes made with the paperwork. 

In fact, many reported spending as much as 6 months trying to get their loans restructured to a smaller rate and still not getting anywhere over the phone with the Government Agency representatives.  Thousands have reported bad phone lines must exist because it took several tries to talk to a representative without getting disconnected.  Other problems included reports of many receiving foreclosure notices right in the middle of the process for restructuring their loans. 

An agency representative once said, "Don't worry about the foreclosure notice we sent to you as this is just part of the process."

Exhibit 6:  Leadership under environmental turmoil, BP Oil Spill)  President Obama's first response to the BP oil spill occured right away on day 1 when he asked for a 2nd oil relief well to be dug instead of just 1 in response to the oil spill.   However, it was well over 3 weeks before the President provided any BOOM.

Despite the Dutch offering up several ships to assist with the cleanup, the President never waived the JONES Act.  The President and Admiral Thad Allen were concerned about the "Estuaries" and would not permit the use of BOOM except in specific areas.  Chemicals for dispersing the oil were banned for environmental reasons and any BOOM any company such as PackGen had available had to go through a several week process through BP to gain approval before they can be sold.

Other companies offered their own skimmers but were faced with Bueracratic red tape for weeks on end. 

Cries for ships, boom, and other resources for cleanup by Louisiana's Governor Bobby Jindal went completely ignored.  Only when oil began to soak the beaches did President Obama finally conduct after 300 days a press briefing to discuss the Oil Spill response.  The President during the press briefing made it perfectly clear that BP and not the Government or anyone else for that matter was given the responsibility and cost for the clean up.  This created problems in which PEOPLE, RESOURCES, and New IDEAS went completely ignored if they didn't come from BP.

Exhibit 7:   ?????

14 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On June 12, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Varchild2008 (84.34) wrote:

Much of what is discussed here especially the portion on Home Mortgage Restructuring is entirely based on my own personal witness to those involved in the process.

I have seen homes foreclose where I currently live or people having to sell everything and move out of Michigan...etc...etc... Much of it due to the problems people faced in restructuring their home mortgage throught the government program, plus the lack of finding a job.

My area is quickly flipping houses from Private Sector to homes purchased by Government workers...  As Government Jobs have never been in recession..... This has been entirely a Private Sector Economic Disaster and a historic BULL MARKET if you work for the Government.

Which is why I expect things to flip soon the other way should conservatives gain control of Congress and the presidency in the next 2 - 4 years.

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#2) On June 12, 2010 at 6:09 PM, devoish (65.08) wrote:

I agree with you that elected Government needs to take a bigger role in our lives.

I am not sure I have confidence in your information.


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#3) On June 12, 2010 at 6:49 PM, RonChapmanJr (30.09) wrote:

Stopping the Iraq war in 16 months

Making government transparent with citizens able to read bills online

Not putting lobbyist in government positions

Not putting tax evaders into office (I don't think he said that, but you would think all his "hope and change" would encompass that)

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#4) On June 12, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Varchild2008 (84.34) wrote:

Uhm?  What planet are you from devoish?

I am not asking for Government to have a bigger role in our lives...

The role of Government, priority #1 is to keep America safe from our enemies and from natural or man-caused disasters.

That's all us Conservatives ask for from Government.

To say that we are suddenly in favor of Bigger Government because we want a Military to function.... or we want Citizens of America to be allowed to clean an Oil Spill....

What planet are you from???  geeze....  We want Government to simply GET OUT OF OUR LIVES so citizens of America can fix the problem.

The Solutions here are NOT COMING FROM GOVERNMENT but they are coming from everday American individuals.

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#5) On June 12, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Varchild2008 (84.34) wrote:

Another thing..

Not too too long ago I listed a vast number of Government agencies we should get rid of....

And in fact.... eliminating my laundry list of agencies such as the Dept. of Education, HUD, EPA, etc.  would have made NO difference to the oil spill other than we would have much less of a Defict/Debt on our hands to handle disasters like this better.

Smaller efficient Government doesn't mean..... Smaller ineffective Government.

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#6) On June 12, 2010 at 9:24 PM, ChrisGraley (28.58) wrote:

#2) On June 12, 2010 at 6:09 PM, devoish (99.57) wrote:

I agree with you that elected Government needs to take a bigger role in our lives.

I believe Varichild was talking about lies and not a political platform Steven.

I remember when the emergency stimulus package was sold to us. Everyone seemed to attack it as pork, but Obama stood pat said just wait and see all the jobs it would create. What's the unemployment rate?

devoish, you don't understand it now, but you are hurting Obama more than you are helping him.

To you, the goal is more important than the truth. You'll support the lies in order not be routed in the next election. The thing is that you dis-enfranchise people listening to you when you try to convince them that black is white. If you stated that your beliefs were true, but Obama strayed from those, you'd get more followers.

I'm gonna ask you if you are happy with Obama's health care plan at this time, because at this time it is right on topic. Be carefull with the answer because I'm going to remember it and so will some liberals.

If Obama did any of the many things that he promised as far a correcting government corruption, he would have been a saint in my eyes. I wasn't expecting the change he was talking about to be making government more corrupt.

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#7) On June 12, 2010 at 10:19 PM, ozzfan1317 (70.42) wrote:

I'm probably the first moderate to admit this but his first year and a half has been a mess I personally supported healthcare reform but this bill could have been better beyond that yeah i'm dissapointed if the right person runs on the republican side they will have my vote possibly as long as its not Palin (God Help US) 

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#8) On June 12, 2010 at 10:20 PM, ozzfan1317 (70.42) wrote:

P.S. This is coming from an Independant that leans to the left so that should say it

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#9) On June 12, 2010 at 10:38 PM, ChrisGraley (28.58) wrote:

I'm not really a moderate ozzfan. I'm probably more of an extremeist, but I'm extreme over the entire spectrum.

The whole point is an effective government, it's what everyone advertises, but no one delivers.

2 parties or even 3 parties aren't going to do it. We need like 10 parties. This makes the government weaker and the voters stronger.

Think about that every time you see a post from the far right or the far left. They have to scare you into making a decision. They have to polarize you. It's the only thing that gives them power. They'll post youtube videos that will show how the universe implodes when you don't agree with them. They have to make your emotions override your logic. They don't like their odds if you think for yourself.

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#10) On June 12, 2010 at 10:43 PM, ralphmachio (< 20) wrote:

To always expect something different when the result is always the same is one definition of insanity.  That's how you know voting is insane.

Devoish works for the government writing blogs, that's how stupid they are. They are probably paying him with your tax dollars to spout off like some kinda bull$hit geiser about how we need more (HUH!?!?) Government.  Utterly unfathomable from a real person who was not stuck in a wheelchair who does nothing but watch TV, with abundant fearful psychosis. He is one of the metersticks I judge web fidelity, and he shows that we have many around who are not what they seem.  

Do the math. Government is the actual cause of the insustainability. Do you really think we need more? 

I took the promises of previous candidates, checked their track records, and decided he was an image - nothing more - and knowing a little about the men behind the curtain, a funny man to be holding the hot potato when it turns into a full blown fireball.  The country won't go to shit because we have a black president, they PUT a black president in because someone had to be the posterchild for having a f-d up checkbook when they know the economy is going to shit, full steam ahead. But that's probably too real for this crowd, as you all prefer the sugar coated variety. 

Nothing surprised me about O'bama so far, and I surely don't expect the public to start liking him any more in the upcoming months as this stimulus gets painted for half the crime it was. If the game is thievery, the stimulus just attached a supercharger to it.


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#11) On June 13, 2010 at 11:27 AM, devoish (65.08) wrote:

Exhibit 6:  Leadership under environmental turmoil, BP Oil Spill)  President Obama's first response to the BP oil spill occured right away on day 1 when he asked for a 2nd oil relief well to be dug instead of just 1 in response to the oil spill.   However, it was well over 3 weeks before the President provided any BOOM - Varchild

What planet are you from???  geeze....  We want Government to simply GET OUT OF OUR LIVES so citizens of America can fix the problem. - Varchild

So are you whining that President Obama stayed OUT OF OUR LIVES so citizens of America can fix the problem or that President Obama did not get involved INTO your life and clean up a private companys mess?

And are you sure you want to go with the idea that Government needs to be big enough to role out a 40,000 barrel/day spill response team every time an oil company reports a 5000 barrel/day spill?


Listen carefully to the answer to your healthcare question, I do not want to be misunderstood.

No, I am not happy.

Now you answer one. Should deepwater drilling continue with no ability to rectify mistakes?

"I want to have just enough government to blame for private industries mistakes" - the whiney bunch.

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#12) On June 13, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Varchild2008 (84.34) wrote:

"So are you whining that President Obama stayed OUT OF OUR LIVES so citizens of America can fix the problem or that President Obama did not get involved INTO your life and clean up a private companys mess?"


President Obama actually GOT INTO OUR LIVES by tossing out the Dutch Boats and Oil Dispersement Chemicals and thousands of feet of Boom offered up by American Individual companies such as PackGen.

The issue is that with President Obama interfering with our lives..... The Oil Spill has become a disaster far bigger than it should have been.

Us Americans couldn't set up the proper amount of boom because Thad Allen and Obama wanted to protect some environmental estuaries....or something.....

We couldn't use chemicals such as Oil Dispersement Chemicals or Chemicals to clean up the oil with for environmental regulations set up and propped up by OBAMA.

Again.....  DEVOISH continues to live under a rock.

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#13) On June 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Varchild2008 (84.34) wrote:

It is simple...

BIG GOVERNMENT   mucks up the process for American individuals and Businesses to offer up solutions, get them approved through the lengthy bureacratic process from one agency to another to another to another...going from 1 environmental approval regulatory process after another.....before we can apply the solutions to the problem.

Smaller Government of which DEVOISH and OBAMA do not support would help to eliminate or reduce agencies and bueracrats and needless environmental regulations and all of the "JONES ACTS" of the get the solutions to 1 or 2 people, get it approved...and purchased... and applied....

It is simple... simple stuff really.... Less people and Red Tape to go through then the better and faster it is to get the cleaning supplies and ships to the oil spill....

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#14) On June 14, 2010 at 12:00 AM, ChrisGraley (28.58) wrote:

Thanks devoish, I knew what the answer was before you said it.

I was a little surprised that you were celebrating it earlier.

Now the BP thing is touchy with me because I don't totally know where I stand yet. 

I'll lay all my thoughts out there for you...

1) Equipment failed. 

2) I don't know a lot about drilling, but I'm assuming that multi-million dollar operations should have more than one safety feature.

3) I think that BP is doing everything that they can to stop the leak.

4) I think Obama is taking bad advice by screaming at a company scrambling to fix things in desperation to appease the voting base.

5) Dispersed oil does the same damage as un-dispersed oil.

Now devoish, to your question, I think that we already have a way to rectify mistakes. It's called fining the shit out of the company. I think that deep water drilling is here to stay as well. As long as the supply of oil goes down and the need for oil goes up, we are going to go out and get the oil where we can.

The real question that I'm bouncing around in my head is what should we do different. I won't have that answer until the well gets capped. I don't know enough about drilling and I'll research that a bit, but the entire truth won't come out until this is no longer daily news.

So the answer to your particular question is probably nothing. The answer to your implied question is more important and I don't have that answer yet.

I'm not dodging you here. I'm still deciding my viewpoint. 

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