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LordZ gonna make a bold call...



April 09, 2013 – Comments (10)

Okay  a lot  of  people  are worried  about  how stocks have  allegedly  surpassed  their  2007  all-time highs,  and  yes given   how  badly  the markets  had tanked  after reaching  such  levels  it  would be  far safer  to predict  the market is  gonna go  down  from here as opposed  to head up.

But  guess what...  when  you factor  in  real  inflation   we'd  need  to see the  sp 500  reach  2,000  a   good   500  points  above  these levels  before   you  could  with good  faith  really say  we've  reached  new  all-time  highs...

So I'm gonna make  the  bold  prediction  that we  see  a  sp 500   of   2,000  before years  end.

So I'm  saying  we  still  have  27%  more  to  go  before  we  reach  anything  close to  the  all time  highs.

Wanting to  be  an  optomist  as  opposed  to say  an  optometrist,   I'd  like to  think  that  maybe  when  QE  ends  or  say  when  the punch bowl of  free money  no longer  gets  refilled  with  strong  drink,  that  maybe  it  will be  because of  the fact  that  a  real  recovery  takes  fold.

But  more  pessimistically   its more likely  that  really  strong drink  and  QE  to  beyond  infinity will  drive up everything  such  that   we will reach  these levels  more  out  of  necessity and more so by  force.

Thats gonna be  my   bold  call...

And  you're welcome...


All Hail  the  hypno  Lord...


10 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On April 09, 2013 at 7:24 PM, awallejr (38.93) wrote:

Well we are now in uncharted waters.  I had solid feelings and expectations since the low of 2009.  I made many an accurate prediction on this site.  But now that we are at those all time highs I just don't have clear feelings.

I do think the market is fairly priced unlike in 2007.  The banks are well capitalized.  Dodd-Frank will keep them in check for awhile at least.  And then there is Uncle Ben.  I still see AT LEAST 2 more years of QE.

I expect to one day see DOW 20,000 and S&P 2000, just not this year since then you will have another crash.  I'd rather see a "grind higher" since that can be less volatile and more sustainable.

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#2) On April 09, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Option1307 (30.65) wrote:

Agreed with awallejr!

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#3) On April 10, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Starfirenv (< 20) wrote:

I hope it works out better than your last "prediction".

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#4) On April 10, 2013 at 12:36 PM, L0RDZ (91.04) wrote:

 To    Starfirenv

Ha ha ha Star,  unlike  yourself  I  at least  have  picks  and  play  the  caps  game.

That world  series  was  tainted, because  of  the steroid pumped player who  wrecked havok during  the  all-star game  that gave home field advantage  to  those  San Fran  victors.  An astericks should be  next to that  year to state such.  Not to mention all  the games he  helped  them win and  sadly  despite not playing in the play-offs  he  still received a  world  series  ring.

But at  least  I was willing to go out  on  a limb.  while you do whatever it is that you do ?

Perhaps  gaining 27%  within 8  months is a bit  too aggressive, but  I  made  that call as well as  the  call  against  JCP.

What  calls  have  you made ?


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#5) On April 10, 2013 at 2:20 PM, awallejr (38.93) wrote:

Nah my comment #2 in that thread was spot on, but what is going on today in the market might make your prediction come true.  May or October is going to be interesting.

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#6) On April 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Starfirenv (< 20) wrote:

Take it easy Zman.  I really do hope your call plays out.  Today I'm watching SVU run.  I took a 5 fig gamble when they dropped their div and it tanked to <$2.  I found it on gurufocus 52 week lows.  A great resource.  Looking at RNF.  I think I like it @ $30ish. Also like AUNFF @ .60. I could go on but I'm just a <20 kinda guy so who cares. Really glad I dumped most of my AAPL last year.  Also been stacking shiny stuff.  Largest position is LINE.  Been holding it about 4 yrs or so at ~$14. Actually been moving out of the mkt.  There's better places to be IM<20HO.

As far as what I do...  I ski Tahoe alot when I'm home but usually winter on Isla Bonita and hang with my Rasta posse.  Love killing lionfish... just for fun.  Well, and they make good tacos.  I play with old muscle cars and bikes too..  My last project is now a rockstar in NZ.  3 bagger and way more fun than watching the ticker.  Today, I am serving papers on a deadbeat renter and reading-  my back hurts.  Too many years of tourny softball. I do miss the travel and going to World every year tho.  So, what do you do "Hypno Lord" (really?)? J/K, take it easy.

No, I don't play the game of CAPS and often wonder why I even bother to occasionally stop by. Again, I hope you're right!   Best, from The Silver State.  And Go Giants! And 9ers.

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#7) On April 10, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Starfirenv (< 20) wrote:

Oh, and rec #11 was mine. 

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#8) On April 10, 2013 at 7:36 PM, 50daymovingshort (< 20) wrote:

l0rdz, this will excite you when I say that you are out of your mind when you say S&P 500 will be at 2,000 by Dec. 31, 2013.

Currently we are almost at 1,600.

Since you are making outlandish predictions, I'll offer my 2cents;

S&P 500 will see 1,400 (it will fall) before it reaches eventually a mark of 2,000 - no time prediction except for the the S&P will not visit 2,000 until it has been hit yet again.

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#9) On April 11, 2013 at 12:29 AM, L0RDZ (91.04) wrote:

Wow 50 day short...  if you had  any fool credentials   I'd  almost  fake some excitement...  instead I'll just point  to  your  accuracy and equally poor  cap rankings.

Off the top of my head  I'm guessing there are  around  187  trading  days  left  still  in  2013  and given  the  outstanding performance  the  day after  I  made my  as  you  called  it  outlandish  prediction  (for  the  market  to  rise  another  26%)    roughly  30  weeks  for  the  markets  to  have  around  a  1%  move  positive  on  average  per  week.

Currently so far  the  US  and Japanese markets  are  the only ones  doing  well  ~   Europe  is  fubared ~  however   if   China  again catches   fire   and   can  manage  to  get  on  board,   with  the  current  policies  ~  of  QE  and  printing   $$$$  like  it  was  going  out  of  style   why  the  H  not ?

Mister  shorty  the markets have  never  really been  rational  and  if by  chance  I'm proven right   you  had better be  ready :)


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#10) On April 11, 2013 at 1:27 AM, awallejr (38.93) wrote:

Oh stop it with the picking on people's scores.  Alstry used to do that with me until he finally turned negative.  Personally I think we will see a S&P 2000, just not this year.  And since my prediction rate dwarfs yours I wager we won't see 2000 this year. But we will see it.

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