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October 25, 2011 – Comments (12) | RELATED TICKERS: AAPL , AMZN , NFLX

This is a simple concept.

If you buy a Bentley off the showroom floor for $1 million, you expect every stitch in the leather to be perfect. 

If you buy a 1998 Honda Accord off a used car lot for $2500, you do not expect every stitch in the leather to be perfect.

If you buy a Bentley, you are out $1 million, so you had better do a heck of a lot of diligence - make sure every stitch in the leather meets your expectations - before you buy it.

If you buy that Accord - well, it was $2500.  You don't expect the leather to be perfect.  Maybe it's got cloth seats.  You expect it to run, maybe belch a little smoke from time to time, break down on the side of the road once a quarter or once a year.

If you buy Amazon at a P/E of 100 and they stumble, making only 14 cents instead of 51 cents per share - well, that ain't no Bentley.  It's just a BMW.  You might lose 12 percent of the price.  Now your P/E is 88.

If you buy Netflix at a P/E of 100 and it breaks down on the side of the road and the mechanic tells you he's going to try to fix it, but he can't be sure but what it is never going to go over 50 mph again, you might lose 75% of your value on that Bentley because, turns out, it's not even a Honda.  It's sort of a beat up Geo Metro with a salvage title.

AAPL's P/E (cash adjusted) is 13.  INTC's P/E is 10.  NFLX after the beat down is 17.5.  AMZN after the beatdown is 88.

Do any of them make a car you'd want to drive?  Now, how much would you like to pay for that ride?  How much due diligence do you want to do?  How much of a beat do you expect from a miss?

That's margin of safety.

12 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On October 25, 2011 at 9:05 PM, portefeuille (99.75) wrote:

you should go to therapy to alleviate that P/E fixation ...

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#2) On October 25, 2011 at 9:31 PM, portefeuille (99.75) wrote:

#1 (just joking)

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#3) On October 25, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Starfirenv (< 20) wrote:

#1 and other things...

     If you buy Netflix at a P/E of 100 and it breaks down on the side of the road and the mechanic tells you he's going to try to fix it, but he can't be sure but what it is never going to go over 50 mph again, you might lose 75% of your value on that Bentley because, turns out, it's not even a Honda.  It's sort of a beat up Geo Metro with a salvage title.">  Umm,  right!
 

Just a BMW eh?  If this post was a car, it would be the "beat up Geo Metro with a salvage title."

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#4) On October 25, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Starfirenv (< 20) wrote:

Yea, me too...

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#5) On October 25, 2011 at 10:00 PM, ikkyu2 (99.52) wrote:

Really?  That bad?

I was long INTC and AAPL, no position in AMZN, and short NFLX coming into this week.  What do you want from me - dancing girls? 

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#6) On October 26, 2011 at 12:27 AM, NycityInvested (< 20) wrote:

solid post.  P/e ratios are very important indicator.  Amazon is facing a beat down from State and Local Gov't for not collecting taxes which could lead to millions of dollars in fines.

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#7) On October 26, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Option1307 (30.48) wrote:

Nice thoughts and good write up, +1.

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#8) On October 26, 2011 at 10:27 AM, tekennedy (75.28) wrote:

Nice analogy

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#9) On October 26, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rehydrogenated (35.26) wrote:

If you have been investing in INTC since 2007 like I have it feels like I invested in a motor home that keeps saying it will eventually leave the campsite...but doesn't.

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#10) On October 26, 2011 at 11:33 AM, davejh23 (< 20) wrote:

"Amazon is facing a beat down from State and Local Gov't for not collecting taxes which could lead to millions of dollars in fines."

Retailers are only required by law to collect sales tax in states in which they have a physical presence. How are they going to be looking at "millions of dollars in fines" when they haven't broken any laws? I'm sure the law is going to change soon enough, but Amazon is not going to be fined. Either way, I wouldn't buy AMZN anywhere near current levels. I wouldn't buy NFLX at any price.

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#11) On October 26, 2011 at 12:31 PM, EnigmaDude (97.23) wrote:

I think Amazon has a lot further (farther?) to fall.  If you bought shares at $200+ it will be more than a 12% decline before it's all said and done.  Long term I like Amazon and most everyone ignores, or maybe do not realize what a huge presence they have in cloud computing (servers for the masses!) but I would not be looking to buy shares for anything over about $100/share.

Netflix is another story but I do like your analogy as well.  Which stock is the Tesla Model S?

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#12) On October 26, 2011 at 8:20 PM, ikkyu2 (99.52) wrote:

"Which stock is the Tesla Model S?"

It's none of the above; it's a company with no meaningful earnings.  For their stock to do well, they have to come out on top in their partnerships with other automakers; they have to not require too many more dilutive rounds; and they have to not take on too much debt at the expense of common; as well as their product having to take off.

That requires too much predicting the future for me.  I hope they do well, and I think they may do well, but I would certainly not bet on it, nor would I be able to put up much of a convincing argument for either side. 

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