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June 15, 2010 – Comments (14)

Here's the scariest assessment of what's happening with the well that I have read.

Exploration into the Arctic has been increasing and here's a piece that points out the huge differences between the Arctic and a well serviced place like the Gulf.

And for the nay sayers....

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#1) On June 15, 2010 at 10:38 AM, binve (< 20) wrote:

dwot, I just read that first link .... holy sh**. Thank you for posting it. That was a very impressive and informed write up and jives with the inconsistencies in the media as well as the worsening progression of this issue.

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#2) On June 15, 2010 at 11:29 AM, ElCid16 (97.30) wrote:

If this is the truth, dwot, scary is an understatement.  This would make 3-mile look like child's play.

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#3) On June 15, 2010 at 11:32 AM, jesusfreakinco (28.97) wrote:

Dwot,

I'll one up you on a worse case scenario. Read this blog...

"the tsunami wave this will create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole. 

Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these areas for an unknown number of years."

http://uncensored.co.nz/2010/06/11/oil-volcano-pressure-too-strong-for-containment/

 

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#4) On June 15, 2010 at 11:35 AM, jesusfreakinco (28.97) wrote:

Tracking some articles on this blog as well.

http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/bp-deserves-to-die-latest/406732

JFC

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#5) On June 15, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Tastylunch (29.36) wrote:

yup

I have feeling this unstoppable oil spill is becoming a regional extinction event for much of the Gulf's flora and fauna.

if nothing else this is exactly why BP needs to stop effing around and let scientists actually look directly at it so the public can know exactly what we are dealing with.

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#6) On June 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM, cthomas1017 (98.57) wrote:

And for the nay sayers....

Denial could be either of both ways.  Using it pre-emptively is a nice tactic to attempt to discredit any opposition, but a case can be made that the proponents are actually the one in denial.  Nice try though.

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#7) On June 15, 2010 at 4:27 PM, dwot (43.80) wrote:

Well done cthomas1017, lol.

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#8) On June 15, 2010 at 5:07 PM, TMFCrocoStimpy (89.36) wrote:

And for any remaining nay sayers who find it all to be a mystery.....

 

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#9) On June 15, 2010 at 8:27 PM, dwot (43.80) wrote:

Estimate of oil leaking revised up again....

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#10) On June 15, 2010 at 10:08 PM, rd80 (97.31) wrote:

Re #4

The tsunami formation in the linked article depends on producing steam under conditions where water won't vaporize. 

Google 'steam table' and 'critical point' to debunk the oil volcano.

 

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#11) On June 15, 2010 at 11:12 PM, cthomas1017 (98.57) wrote:

Croco, Interesting fact about the Nile, the oldest river in the world. Flows south to north.  Very few rivers do so.  The second oldest river in the world?  The New River in West Virginia... flows south to north.  (At least that's the story that the river guides on the New tell.)  Coincidence?

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#12) On June 16, 2010 at 12:59 AM, dwot (43.80) wrote:

rd80, I was thinking about "steam" at that depth.  PV=nRT   Too many variables so I figured having a look at hydrothermal vents and how they work would give a better understanding of what currently happens when water is heated on the ocean floor.

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#13) On June 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM, rd80 (97.31) wrote:

dwot - It would be similar to a hydrothermal vent, but I don't think the extreme temps from magma/lava are present in this well cavity to push the seawater to super critical. 

I found one source, don't have a link handy, that the oil coming from another of the GOM wells comes out at 132 deg C.  At that temp range, or the 400 deg F in the blog, the water at 5000+ feet would be in the all water phase - no steam or supercritical fluid.  So, if there were to be some collapse - tsunami event, it would have to rely on something other that steam as the triggering force.

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#14) On June 16, 2010 at 2:46 PM, dwot (43.80) wrote:

I haven't watched this, but that someone would even consider nuking the oil leak ....  well, eekkkkk!

But hey, people tried blowing up beached whales in the past...

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