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Motley Fool UNCIVIL to Alstry's Work?????



May 19, 2009 – Comments (23)

On April 25th, Alstry and The Institute of Alstrynomics developed the most important the most important techno trance spector vector development to many of you is the ZOMBULATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you don't know what it is.....The Institute and Alstry strongly suggest you read the following:

However, a few days ago, the New York Times in its infinite wisdom referenced the Zombulator in Bill Safire's Column:

“The Zombulator will continue to wreak havoc,” opined a worried Web site named the Motley Fool a couple of weeks ago, “as long as we pursue a Zombie Bank policy. ” A few months before, a group of anxious academics wrote in The Irish Times that “Irish banks must be recapitalized if Ireland is to avoid a Japan-style prolonged recession, retarded by zombie banks.” And Mark Gilbert, a Bloomberg News columnist who thinks that “the zombie banks are demanding to be let back into the financial mall so they can pillage the global markets anew,” headlined his somewhat alarmist view: “Fresh Flesh Runs Screaming as Zombie Banks Drool.”....

Ten days ago, 19 large United States banks bolstered by huge federal infusions reported on the varying results of the stress tests given by the government lender-investor-bailouter (the Zombulator?) to see how they could stand up to recession pressures. Stress test, an 1890s engineering term, began in the 1960s to be used to describe an electrocardiogram of the heart taken during exercise. Sheidlower dug up a stunning early application of the way it is used today: “The American dollar and the world’s confidence in the American economic system were being subjected to severe stress tests.” The reporter: David S. Broder. The year: 1978.

But if you notice....there was NO CREDIT for the Zombulator given to Alstry or The Institute of Alstrynomics for its most important development to date....Motley Fool got all the credit!!!!

Does Alstry mind that Motley is getting credit for his work in the NYT????....not really.  Alstry likes to help out when he can.  However, since Motley Fool is often fond of suspending Alstry for being civil is it to take credit for another's work and not give the author credit?

Next time Motley Fool thinks Alstry is may want to take a look at its own behavior before suspending Alstry....since one of Alstry's and the Institute's primary missions is the same as Motley's.....Alstrynomics is all about helping other investors!!!!!

Alstrynomics is not about being popular....Alstrynomics is about being right....that is how Alstry helps investors.   Remember that next time Fools when you think Alstry is UNCIVIL!!!!!!  Please;)



23 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On May 19, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Seano67 (24.31) wrote:

Hahaha, Alstry. :) You made the New York Times! That is really cool, and I can say that I knew ya way back when. ;)

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#2) On May 19, 2009 at 8:04 PM, AdirondackFund (< 20) wrote:

hahaha, as well.  I think the Zombulator is the machine which causes the concentric inner swirl to form.   Like a witches pot, you throw in Free Home Mortgages at the end of a Housing Boom, add a war in the middle east, let gas prices rocket to $4/gallon and soon the Zombulator starts to boil.  Once it starts to do the concentric inner swirl thing that sucks all of the money out of the system (that great sucking sound Ross Perot warned us about), there is nothing anyone can do to stop it.  It has a life of it's own.  It is unknown, like Bigfoot himself; and like the Zombulator, may or may not even even exist except at the last minute of your life when you are first introduced to your Predator. 

I hope this clarifies for the NYT what indeed the Zombulator is.          

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#3) On May 19, 2009 at 8:53 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

My guess is one day Alstrynomics will become the generally accepted perpective on Economic analysis.  It would be surprising if it does not get nominated for a Nobel Prize.

It just goes to show the quality and creativity of work that come up on CAPs...AND NOWHERE ELSE...and this work is not limited to Alstry....collectively the community is greater than the sum of its individual parts...even if on occasion a few of us can be uncivil when he or she views another's blog as intellectually deficient and comments on it.

In the end, don't we really all respect each other.....and ultimately the free market of our community will be the true judge of the quality of posts....and as things play out....Alstry is confident that most of you will appreciate that Alstrynomics is all about being right.

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#4) On May 19, 2009 at 9:00 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


TOKYO (MarketWatch) -- The Japanese economy contracted in the first quarter by its fastest rate on record, following further declines in exports and private investment, government data showed Wednesday.

The world's second-biggest economy shrank 15.2% on an annualized basis in the January-to-March period, or 4.0% from the previous quarter, according to the preliminary data released by the Cabinet Office.

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#5) On May 19, 2009 at 9:00 PM, angusthermopylae (37.86) wrote:

ROFLMAO....well, not the floor, but darn close!

Last night, I wrote this post.  (And yes, alstry, you were top of the list of people to which I was referring.)  Now it's come true!!!!!!!!!!! <--extra !s in honor of Alstrynomics....

Good news, bad news:  Bad news in that you may end up being an unsung hero...good news in that someone, somewhere is spreading the Word of Alstrynomics.

I expect to see more of this type of thing.  Love 'em or hate 'em,  the bloggers here put a lot of work into their arguments.  Maybe the world will catch on.

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#6) On May 19, 2009 at 9:10 PM, TMFMmbop (28.72) wrote:

Spectacular. I love Safire's column.

But we're not taking credit for your work; I don't think we were contacted about the reference. Further, I hope you consider yourself a part of the Motley Fool website. Your posts are top notch and as you said previously in this thread, the sum is greater than the parts.


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#7) On May 19, 2009 at 9:28 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


I it doesn't matter,anything that I can do to promote TMF is great.

I am not sure if you are aware, but I was suspended a few days ago for bringing into question what one of Deej's family members (even though I never mentioned his name) might think of his competency based on the basis for his attacking one of my projections.

His blog really didn't bother me too much....but I must of really pissed him guess is his underwear is about two sizes too wanna bet his wife thinks he looks cute in speedos.

Overall Deej and most bloggers do excellent work...but critical thought is important to anyone's work...especially someone on the edge like me.....but other than Jake...not a single TMF blogger has ever stood up for Alstry when he was attacked or criticized...and often by TMF bloggers.....

It doesn't matter because the playing field is really not fair with the advantage tilted far to my side in this arena...but when TMF tells you this is their blog and they can do what they please with you......who am I to guys can cut me off at any time.....

In the end it is about us and investors helping investors.....and if TMF doesn't think Alstry is part of us.....then Alstry will leave..but in the mean time, he will never compromise his character

This was sorta a fun way of poking back.


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#8) On May 19, 2009 at 9:45 PM, alstry (< 20) wrote:

Welcome to the effects of the ZOMBULATOR!!!!!!!!!  As the Zombie banks drain all the nations wealth...little will be left for goods and services. 

Will ANYONE have a job??????

The company also said an additional 6,400 workers, or 2 percent of HP's 321,000-employee work force, will lose their jobs over the next year. The cuts will be on top of the 24,600 jobs HP was already dumping......

Am Ex is laying off more.....Medtronic countless others.....

What do you think is going to happen this fall when things really slow down and cities and states run out of money and can't buy much of anything and must fire millions??????????

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#9) On May 19, 2009 at 11:25 PM, awallejr (38.34) wrote:

I have to say that was kind of funny. BUT, and you know I always have a but with you,

The Zombulator will continue to wreak havoc,” opined a worried Web site named the Motley Fool a couple of weeks ago,

NYT, true to form misquoted in that it said the WEB SITE opined.  That was a clear lie as you know.


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#10) On May 20, 2009 at 12:47 AM, jegr5347 (< 20) wrote:

They are a bunch of plagiarists anyway. Who needs the NYT to rehash what we have been reading here 2 yrs ago.

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#11) On May 20, 2009 at 8:39 AM, dudemonkey (53.73) wrote:


You know you like the way it sounds.

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#12) On May 20, 2009 at 9:08 AM, angusthermopylae (37.86) wrote:

The Zombulator will continue to wreak havoc,” opined a worried Web site named the Motley Fool a couple of weeks ago,

I would also take exception to describing the Motley Fool as "a worried Web site."

Overall, I would agree that the community is generally worried about how the economy is going.  But, I always took the purpose of Fooldom as "if you're smart, careful, and a little lucky, you can make money when things are bad, too."

After all, if Alstrynomics prognostications all come true, then abitare will be a rich, well-armed financial genius!

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#13) On May 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


we are all here to help each other....few of us get paid and the info is free for the taking....the joke is much of it is much better than the nonsense that does cost a boatload.....

alstry is who alstry is because alstry chooses it that way....but if the economy keeps heading in the current direction....few of us will have any choices.

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#14) On May 20, 2009 at 10:11 AM, TMFJake (92.83) wrote:

Puleeze, Alstry, I'm the one who told you about the NY Times article.  If you have a beef, contact Safire.  We want you to have all the credit for your quote.

Congrats on the publicity for Alstrynomics...



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#15) On May 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


my beef was poking fun at the suspension....not the article nor anything contained within it.....

its fun to see TMF quoted anywhere....we are all one big community.

It is NEVER about is about the community.

but you know that.

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#16) On May 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM, XMFYoung (99.94) wrote:

Sad that "writer" couldn't take five maybe ten minutes to figure out that you are a member and blogger of the Fool community and give you proper credit. 

What am I saying why would I want a "reporter" to actually research his story that's so last century.  All glory to the Hyp... er I mean Alstrynomics.

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#17) On May 20, 2009 at 10:34 AM, TMFJake (92.83) wrote:

Yeah, at least Safire could have referenced CAPS if not Alstrynomics by name!

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#18) On May 20, 2009 at 10:42 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


From a more interesting intellectual perspective....this is simply a great example how the mainstream press can make mistake or misleasd......

this is an issue we all know well and can debate with a strong foundation of the facts.......and it is clear to us how the article really doesn't reflect reality......

simply TMF being worried due to the Zombulator....the Zombulator doesn't even really relate to the topic of the article as it is really a component in techno trance analysis which the article never even discussed.

if the press can be so off about something as simple as the far off is it on more important other issues involving economics and politics.

Remember, Alstrynomics is all about the truth!!!!!

.....and please note as an aside....I never mentioned nor implied any plagerism....just civility and it had nothing to do with the article....

it was intended to be an inside joke between TMF and alstry....and a pretty funny one at that.

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#19) On May 20, 2009 at 10:54 AM, TMFJake (92.83) wrote:

Alstry, clearly Safire is a hack. ;)

On on the interesting intellectual issue, we've seen an uptick recently of press mentions of Motlefy Fool community members, frequently referring to them by name and calling them "Motley Fool Analysts."  Actually, this is an accurate description, although "UserFoo, Motley Fool Community Analyst" would be a more accurate way to reference a community member's work. 

It is interesting when a community member has an extreme view that may or may not represent the prevailing POV of The Motley Fool.  That said, we are "motley" first and foremost.


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#20) On May 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM, alstry (< 20) wrote:


We are tracking like usual.

What is upcoming will be very will make the community and the varying perspectives even more important....

Alstry has a caustic approach because he has a caustic message.......let's hope things change......nobody want that more than alstry

but the facts are getting our society gets further from the truth....the cover up or the consequences will only get BIGGER.....Fool is one of the few places where at least varying opinions can be discussed in a "civil" manner.

It is why CAPs is so important during a period of BS mainstream news....and why opposing views should not only be tolerated...but encouraged....and Fool does a great job maintaining balance between socratic discourse and civility.

Fool is doing a great job and my guess is that it will only get more popular as the masses get disenchanted with the nonsense being dished out.

Now it is up to you guys to take advantage of this opeining.



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#21) On May 20, 2009 at 1:43 PM, tonylogan1 (27.67) wrote:

The first time that many people find out how inaccurate the media is, is when they themselves are at the event described.

If you are involved enough in the story to understand what really is going on, you realize the media is near worthless.

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#22) On May 20, 2009 at 1:53 PM, awallejr (38.34) wrote:

Nah, it is a necessary evil.  While the media loves to sensationalize, slant, spin, etc. I'd take what we have over a completely state controlled media any day of the week.


P.S., my points went positive today Alstry ;p

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#23) On May 21, 2009 at 7:40 AM, OneLegged (< 20) wrote:

My day has been made!  "To, Educate, Amuse and Enrich" (or some such).  I have been amused.  Thanks for the blog post.

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