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September 10, 2008 – Comments (6) | RELATED TICKERS: SCC

Disclosure:   I have never shorted a stock or industry.     In MRLP I buy and hold, rarely trading and until recently it has paid off fairly well.  Since joining CAPS I have taken a small % and dedicated it to short term trading.  This also worked well until I was upside down with NVDA and TTM.  Currently I am in a little bit of a trading funk.    The Energy and Oil Service stocks that I see having real growth opportunities are underappreciated, and are getting crushed by the market.   I see value in backlog and future earnings, whereas the market is just looking at the price per barrell of oil. 

 This said, I do not have much faith in my ability to pick winning stocks, my open accuracy in CAPS bears witness to this fact.  I am considering entering my first ever short in MRLP.    Anchak referred me to SCC, it is short some relatively strong retailers that have put up relatively good numbers recently, at least compared to the rest of the market.  I traded it in CAPS several times and did pretty well until all of the government interventtion.  

Disclosure, I trade purely on gut instinct at a Macro level.   I respect the technical traders and their input only because others do.   To me it has no relevance other than what other investors consider as important.   I respect those that take the time to perform due dilligence on their investments and go through the reports with a fine tooth comb.   For me it has very little meaning as I was once and Enron Investor and I lost money based on that "analysis."   

Lately my "gut" is out of tune with the market with my personal investments.    My time horizon is 10-30 years, and paid in cash, so I am not ready to jump out a window yet.  I have been watching SCC though, and I feel with certainty that it is due to rise.   It has been shredded by the short squeeze, and I am looking for an entry point.  

I am writing this blog in hopes that I can receive all of the opinions of the analysis that I put down earlier.   I can restate all the negatives for retail, but the market does not seem to appreciate them-and Alstry seems to have the market cornered on doom and gloom.   I have to say though, this is the same market that was running up Fannie and Freddie until the dire end, so I do not feel I am too far out of touch with reality.   The mutual fund managers should be fired and I mean across the board. 

What is your buy price with real cash for SCC?  It is  currently rated a 2 on CAPS, and that does not seem right under the current market conditions.   Any and all input is appreciated, including the hypnotoad.

James

6 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On September 10, 2008 at 7:34 AM, abitare (99.70) wrote:

SCC has not performed as well as other Ultra shorts. I am unsure why. It should be a "no brainer" to short retail, but it has not worked, yet.

I like and own both SKF and SRS. I should add on 06 Sep 08 Jim Rogers said he covered most of his financial shorts. He is usually early, but he was one of the biggest financial bears.

Mish Shedlocks and several portfolio managers maintain short and long positions in their portfolios. Mish says he is 1/3 long 1/3 short and 1/3 cash (treasuries).

I think I would prefer to short individual names. ARO is approaching 52 wek high? Even though the insiders have unloaded $900,000,000 in over the last 10 years. Take a look at GGP too. 

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#2) On September 10, 2008 at 10:23 AM, anchak (99.85) wrote:

James.....You knew I would be here,didn't you?

I own SCC,SKF and SRS - tells you where I am. That doesn't mean I would recommend buying what I own to other people. My SCC position is down currently 10%.

As I am finding out and the underlying reason why SCC hasn't done too well - and I think I mentioned this before, it has a few names in its short list which I wouldn't touch personally namely Walmart,Costco, Disney etc.  That's the cost you pay shorting an index. However, the other option in this space is SZK - worse in my view and I alerted Dexion,nuf among others on this. It tries to short P&G, J&J,MO etc.....

The  simple truth is that the American consumer is resilient and does and will spend -  unless I guess it gets hit by a Tsunami. This is different from the Credit Market CDO/MBS problem - which was a concentrated hit.Moreover, you have the government on your side - there's talk about another Stimulus package.

Thus, logic dictates the test for SCC is this Christmas. If the sales fall flat - SCC will provide you a nice lift. The big question is - where will it be in say October.

Honestly SCC will probably never be a tearaway like SKF - but its a hedge. From a pure timing standpoint - I might wait till Sept reports from Retailers.... but price around 80 I think is in the lower confidence range - the tech(TA) gurus might be able to say more.

Oh and to reinforce that I definitely think the hit is coming ( read my pitch on Target in CAPS) - credit card delinquencies/defaults are rising =>( incidentally means implies) Banks are up big time doing Credit Line Reductions and Freezes => clog up in the retail space especially people who hold on-balance sheet lending assets ( TGT is one of the them)

 

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#3) On September 10, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Tastylunch (29.94) wrote:

TDRH I don't think retailers a slam dunk short as an index, as anchak said you are exposed to discounters in SCC I believe which is why I don't own any. All retail isn't getting killed unlike banks, it's just a trade down environment . The discounters and many of the big boxes are taking big market share which is actually quite good for them in the long run.

If you want to short retailers, individual shorts or a basket of individual shorts I think would be better way to go (Talbots, Finish Line, Zales, Lulu, Build-A-Bear, PacSun or Pier 1 might be good places to look intially).

I do think a lot of easy money might be gone from shorting retail though....

that's my two cents. Best of luck to you whatever you do.

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#4) On September 10, 2008 at 12:23 PM, dexion10 (28.13) wrote:

TDRH thanks for comments on my blog on energy stocks and the OIH  and for you comments.

I wish I could join your bullishness on Oil Services but I think they are value traps.  I'll be looking to short a rally in the OIH. 

I'm not trying to trade downward momentum... its actually a fundamental issue. 

In the case of equipment builders and leasers like NOV, RIG, DO, the problem is that a lot of supply of offshore rigs is due to start coming online. That alone should push pricing back down especially for jack up rigs.

But if the price of nat gas continues to fall - which it will if production continues to grow at this rate (beyond the growth rate of demand)... then we'll see offshore E&P co's and some onshore co's start cutting production and postponing drilling projects.  

If that happens the OIH will be the canary in the coal mine.... SLB and WFT might be better positioned because they do lot's of oil production services etc... but they are not cheap and their growth rate will slow.

Also remember that cyclical stocks have their lowest PE's at tops not at bottoms... at bottoms they have high PE's or no PE's like homebuilders and banks do.

 

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. If we have a rally in the OIH I'd favor shorting ESV, HLX, etc.  Offshore drilling rigs and services are the most marginal service.

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#5) On September 10, 2008 at 11:46 PM, IBleedConcrete (98.95) wrote:

Interesting, I'm also considering my first RL short soon.  I'm partial to Zales and H&R Block.  Coincidentally both were taken over by new management a year ago and their share prices have taken off, but fundamentals remain very poor.

Of course I would love to short really worthless stocks like EverydayInvestor, but the few penny, OTC and pink sheet stocks I've tried are unavailable (on Ameritrade).  Does anyone have any tips for determining whether shares are available to short without actually entering the trade?

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#6) On September 11, 2008 at 12:40 AM, IBleedConcrete (98.95) wrote:

A rundown of a few more stocks I think are terrible:

Name (Ticker)                             P/E  P/CF  P/TB  Days Short

Capitol Federal Financial (CFFN)   79     79     3.8      8

Cousins Properties (CUZ)             151   161    3.9     15

Dover Motorsports (DVD)              68     19     2.6      22

General Growth Properties (GGP) 108   76      4.3      4

H&R Block (HRB)                        neg   neg    neg     4

Lamar Advertising Co (LAMR)       114   10      neg     15

Zale Corp (ZLC)                           112    13     1.7      16

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