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Muni Bonds and a fool's criticism

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July 09, 2010 – Comments (8) | RELATED TICKERS: NQU

One of our most frequent posters has criticized me directly for my interest in and recommendation of NQU (Nuveen Quality Muni Bonds).  Clearly he/she/it hasn't the slightest understanding of NQU nor of Nuveen in general.  Thus the downgrade from Fool to fool.

The trivial case can be made that all of our cities, counties and states are broke.  Therefore, it is posited, all muni bonds will crash to zero.  That trivial conclusion is mindless.  There are thousands of "muni" bonds in circulation.  Some are supported by the general obligations of the issuing entity and some by the revenues of the project being supported.

The viability of these issuing entities is a subject of much concern, as is the revenue available or accruing to the issuing entities.  Nuveen has been in business for many decades, and this is their expertise.  They sort from among the thousands of available munis and select those they deem safe and rewarding.

Now some facts.  NQU pays a 6.51% dividend, tax-free.  At a 28% tax rate, that is a 9.4% return pretax.  After the crash of Q3 2008 from 14 to 9, NQU is now at its highest point in the last three years.  And all along the way, NQU has continued its dividends.

NQU's beta is 0.1486.  It typically trades 73,000 shares daily from its 54,000,000 shares outstanding.  Today its trading range was $14.51 to $14.61 (where it finished at its 52 week high).  Not a day-trader's nirvana.

So I advise you Fools who are seeking income to vet NQU thoroughly.  Keep the pressure on munis in mind.  But trust Nuveen to respond quickly.  Do your own thorough due diligence.

But don't respond to the rants of our resident fool by ignoring this income opportunity.  He/she/its view of the world is simplistic and mindless.  Nuance is not available in those endless blogs.

Full disclosure:  I am making $3800 monthly, tax free, from NQU.  How you doing, fool?

Fool on, guys and gals.

 

8 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On July 09, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Superdrol (93.32) wrote:

I'd equate this to buying an index (like the S&P-500) vs. individual stocks.  If you do not have any muni bond experience and want the diversity/luxury of them then this is a decent (although illiquid) vehicle.

 

If you have experience then picking individual muni bonds may be a better option.  The person buying our fixed income has over 40 years experience and is a CFA, so we can selectively pick quality bonds. 

The only caveat is what your overall view is of the municipal bond market.  I've blogged about this before which I think will happen.  If the municipal market collapsed or even portions of it, despite the fixed income asset two things will happen:

 

1.  There will be a run on the fund.

2.  Funds overweight in municipal bonds will experience mark to market losses due to the market value of bonds.  Similar to what happened with mortgage back securities and their value back in 2008.

 

 

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#2) On July 09, 2010 at 9:40 PM, alstry (39.54) wrote:

Bernie Madoff paid 10% for thirty years....my neighbor was a client of Madoff.....my guess is they were being paid something NORTH of $3800 per day from Bernie.......

Guess how they are doing now.........

Wall Street is outsourcing America, slashing wages, and cutting off credit to the private economy........soon America and its municipalities will not be able to raise enough funds from its citizens to fund the nation's current obligations under the current system.....

Just like Bernie couldn't pay 10% once he got cut off from funds and couldn't raise any more money........

just because things worked in the Industrial Age......doesn't mean they will function in the Digital Age....

 

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#3) On July 09, 2010 at 9:51 PM, alstry (39.54) wrote:

Donner....

You were very capable in the nuclear field.....my guess is you did fine in the Industrial Age, you probably even wore a bow tie for confirmation of your intellectual success....but what is ahead you obviously have little aptitude or preparation.....

you are too concerned with speling but unaware how the facts apply to the current environment.......

when you cut off credit to a credit dependent consumer driven economy, pretty soon production collapses, prices explode, and almost everything shuts down.....EVERYTHING

there is simply no other possiblity under the current zombulation policies.

 

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#4) On July 09, 2010 at 9:59 PM, alstry (39.54) wrote:

Yale University - 250 Since May

My guess is 2500 next year........and closed by 2015....or else delivered strictly online.

Soon most of the world's oil supply will likely be cut off......much of what you currently think is important will not be very relevant.......

For three years I have been telling you America as you know it is shutting down....for three years tax receipts have been evaporating.....for three years fewer and fewer are working........NEVER once have I waivered or deviated from my thesis....and guess what....we have and continue to shut down as we proceed forward into the Digital Age....

Mail Users: Postal Rate Hike Will Cost Jobs

SBA Loans Plummet After Stimulus Breaks Expire

Armstrong World Industries Inc Closing Beaver Falls Ceiling Plant over the next year - 150 Jobs Lost

Update: Advance America Closing 47 Locations in Arizona 

Soon production will be so low...governments AROUND THE WORLD WILL BE FORCED TO TAKE CONTROL OF ALL OF THE PRODUCTION.......

you simply don't see what is going on around you....loosen up your tie a bit....I did.

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#5) On July 09, 2010 at 11:02 PM, stocki711 (99.23) wrote:

Alstry

Everyone who has predicted Armageddon before has been wrong. I know statistics say that because one thing does not happen does not mean it will never happen. What I'm saying is you would have had a field day in the 1930's. Things have forever been bad. You remind me of the late 19th century quote "Everything that can be invented has been invented". Sadly he was wrong and we have your 'digital age'. I can't imagine a world where just because financial systems break down and everyone is fired that the world will stop as you suggest. You don't think anyone would make stuff and accomplish tasks for the sheer reason of being altruistic or not a slug. The pilgrams landed and built an empire without a banking system or jobs or all the other things you claim will end. I believe you could use a good dose or history on the topics of America, the world, economics, and government. 

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#6) On July 10, 2010 at 2:24 AM, alstry (39.54) wrote:

I didn't predict Armageddon.....

Just that most of what we know in the Industrial Age will shut down due primarily to credit being cut off......and a rise of the Digital Age.

Many empires have been built and destroyed through the ages....it was never the end of the world...simply the end of the world as they knew it.

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#7) On July 10, 2010 at 4:16 AM, stocki711 (99.23) wrote:

You talk in such a broad cryptic way that you predict nothing...

 What exactly should we watch out for? Also, I sincerely doubt credit as a whole will be ''cut off".  

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#8) On July 10, 2010 at 9:09 AM, alstry (39.54) wrote:

Credit as a whole doesn't need to be cut off....just enough so the debt can't be serviced.....

Just like your income as a whole doesn't need to be cut off, just enough so you can't make your minimum monthly payments....

In either case, you fail economically without restructuring.....

And right now more and more aren't generating enough to meet minimum monthly obligations.....which cause more and more to fail.....

Until enough fails that the system fails.....

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