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August 14, 2008 – Comments (6) | RELATED TICKERS: SKF

The video has some graphic pictures, but "war is hell" even if does not appear so, from the comfort of your living room sofas. I like the US even with its flaws. The guy who made the video does not appear to. So what.... There are some points in the video worth noting. Plus Rage against the Machine as background.

I was out of the US 4+ years.  The news Americans watch is NOT the same that is watched in Europe, Asia etc... American news is pretty ridiculous. Watch the documentary OutFoxed if you doubt it or do not understand. Most Americans are kept stupid or in the dark by corperate media, that is why the internet is a far better source. I like the US. I can tell you there is plenty of Anti American sentiment all over the World. 

Some points from the video worth noting: 

1. Germany with the strong Euro is the EU's leading exporter and a NET EXPORTER.

2. THe US is borrowing $1-3 Billion a day.

3. The US has exported most of its manufacturing.

4. The world hates American politics and this administration.

5. The American people and the world want the US out of Iraq.

6. I was in Japan. Japanesse workers do the cleaning, cooking, construction, there is no BS about "jobs Americans won't do" etc in Japan. They have no illegal migrant population driving taxis, picking fruit, working at the restaurants etc.... there is almost NO CRIME in Japan. NONE. You can fall asleep on the side walk or subway in any neighborhood and wake up undisturbed. There is no city in America safer then any city in Japan. Most of Europe is almost as safe as Japan. Many/most American inner cities are not inhabitable due to safety concerns.

7. I cannot find the statisitcs, but Asia has far fewer Lawyers and far more Engineers then the US. The numbers are dramatically different then the US.  

Here is what you can come up with if your people are focused on productivity and engineering:

 

Donald Trump On President George W. Bush

 

Here is one of the Best Things about America:

 

If you did this in any other country you would disappear. Hopefully, this guy has not disappeared?

Tribute to Peter Schiff - I just like these economics and rock videos

 

 

 

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#1) On August 14, 2008 at 11:13 PM, abitare (99.43) wrote:

The New England Gangstaz

 

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#2) On August 15, 2008 at 1:25 AM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

I hate being manipulated. We were a republic. Now we are a Democracy. Also bush is acting just like hitler did and we know how that ended. I don't want war but I heard the  Georgia president  state he is part of the new world order. In Iraq the wounded and dead are about 40 thousand. What are the numbers for Afghanistan?  The powers that be want WW lll and it looks like it will happen. Here is the one with the nwo. When we spread democracy what are we spreading? The ruleof law. no we spread the majority rules. Where is Ron Paul when we need him. Republic vs. Democracy
Restoring America ^

Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 4:38:35 PM by Tailgunner Joe

 

Republic vs. Democracy

 

United States Constitution

Art. 4 Sec. 4 Par. 1

“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government.” [Not a democracy.]

Pledge of Allegiance – “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands …”

 As Benjamin Franklin was leaving the building where, after four months of hard work, the Constitution had been completed and signed, a lady asked him what kind of government the convention had created. A very old, very tired, and very wise Benjamin Franklin replied; “A Republic, ma’am if you can keep it.” (Webster’s dictionary definition: a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law.)

 

Democracy: Operates by direct majority vote of the people. When an issue is to be decided, the entire population votes on it; the majority wins and rules. A democracy is rule by majority feeling (what the Founding Fathers described as “mobocracy”). Example: in a democracy, if a majority of the people decides that murder is no longer a crime, murder will no longer be a crime.

 

Republic: Where the general population elects representatives who then pass laws to govern the nation … a republic is rule by law. Our republic is a form of government where power is separated, [our Founding Fathers knew that people are basically weak, sinful and corruptible, (Jeremiah 17:9)], pitting men against each other, making it difficult to pass laws and make changes. 

 

WARNINGS

 

      John Witherspoon, signer - “Pure democracy cannot subsist long nor be carried far into the departments of state – it is very subject to caprice and the madness of popular rage.”

 

       Zephaniah Swift, author of America’s first legal text - “It may generally be remarked that the more a government resembles a pure democracy the more they abound with disorder and confusion.”

 

      Benjamin Rush, signer - “ a simple democracy … is one of the greatest of evils.”

 

       John Quincy Adams - “The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived.”

 

       Noah Webster - “In democracy … there are commonly tumults and disorders … Therefore a pure democracy is generally a very bad government. It is often the most tyrannical government on earth.”

 

       James Madison - “Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”

 

       John Adams - “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”

 

      Fisher Ames, author of the House language for the First Amendment - “A democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction. These will produce an eruption and carry desolation in their way. The known propensity of a democracy is to licentiousness which the ambitious call, and the ignorant believe to be liberty !!   NOTE … look at today’s sexual freedoms.

 

    Gouverneur Morris, signer and penman of the Constitution - “We have seen the tumult of democracy terminate … as [it has] everywhere terminated, in despotism … Democracy! savage and wild. Thou who wouldst bring down the virtuous and wise to the level of folly and guilt.”

 

 

Samuel Adams – “… it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds …”

 

End of Warnings

 

       What is the source of law for the American republic? According to Founder Noah Webster: “Our citizens should early understand that the genuine source of correct republican principles is the Bible, particularly the New Testament, or the Christian religion.”

 

In our republic, murder will always be a crime, for it is always a crime according to the Word of God. In the American republic, principles that do not change and which are certain and universal in their operation upon all the members of the community of man were the principles of Biblical natural law … the basis of our Declaration, Constitution and legal system.

 

      Professor Montesquieu, a French professor, author and legal philosopher who wrote the highly influential book, The Spirit Of The Laws, (which was read and studied intently in America) was the source of our division of power in our government. Baron Charles Montesquieu was the second most frequently quoted source, next to the Holy Bible, out of all the references used by our Founding Fathers.He was the source of our division of power in government; (i.e.. legislative, administrative, judicial) claiming Isaiah 33:22 as the source; the Lord is our King, the Lord is our Judge and the Lord is our Lawgiver. Montesquieu identified the rule of law as “natural law” which is based on the Holy Bible. He identified the rule of law as “principles that do not change”. Natural Law is the law God gave His people through the Bible and the Ten Commandments.

 

In 1748, Montesquieu wrote; “Nor is there liberty if the power of judging is not separated from legislative power and from executive power. If it [the power of judging] were joined to legislative power, the power over life and liberty of the citizens would be arbitrary, for the judge would be the legislature if it were joined to the executive power, the judge could have the force of an oppressor. All would be lost if the same … body of principal men … exercised these three powers.

 

       Our Founding Fathers gave us an Electoral College because we are a Republic … not a democracy. The Electoral College follows the principle of elected representation. It was designed to further promote the ideals of balance, and of separation of powers. It gives the smaller States true representation in a fair and just manner by allowing their voices  (as well as rural America) to be heard. It prevents the control of the Nation by highly populated urban centers, thus reducing the risk of elections being bought or won by fraud where power could be consolidated.

 

       Noah Webster - “When you become entitled to exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers, just men who will rule in the fear of God. The preservation of a Republican government depends on the faithful discharge of this duty; if the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public good, so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizens will be violated or disregarded. If a Republican government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect their divine commands and elect bad men to make and administer laws.”

 

Jedediah Moore, Founding educator -“To the kindly influence of Christianity we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness which mankind now enjoys. In proportion as the genuine effects of Christianity are diminished in any nation … in the same proportion will the people of that nation recede from the blessings of genuine freedom …All efforts to destroy the foundations of our Holy religion, ultimately tend to the subversion also of our political freedom and happiness. Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown our present Republican forms of government, and all the blessings which flow from them, must fall with them.”         

 

George Mason, father of Bill of Rights - “We are now to rank among the nations of the world; but whether our independence shall prove a blessing or a curse must depend upon our own wisdom or folly, virtue or wickedness …Justice and virtue are the vital principles of a republican government.”

 

GOD’S LAWAll our laws are arranged into two different classes.

 

1. Divine – coming from God’s natural laws and His ten commandments.

 

2. Human – Matters that are not commanded or forbidden by God’s natural law.

 

U.S. Supreme Court, 1892 – “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon the teachings of the Redeemer of Mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent, our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian.”

 

Benjamin Franklin – “We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that ‘except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it.’ I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel.”

 

James Madison, Father of the U.S. Constitution - “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to The Ten Commandments of God.”

 

George Washington, father of our country – “It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.”

 

AT THE CONVENTION

 

       On the fourth of July 1787, the entire convention was assembled in the Reformed Calvinistic Church, assembled there by the direction of Edmond Randolph of Virginia. The sermon and prayer was conducted by Rev. William Rogers – a portion of his prayer; “We fervently recommend to the Fatherly notice … our Federal Convention … Favor them, from day to day, with Thy inspiring presence; be their wisdom and strength; enable them to devise such measures as may prove happy instruments in healing all divisions and prove the good of the whole; … that the United States of America may form one example of a free and virtuous government…

 

May we … continue, under the influence of Republican virtue, to partake of all the blessings of cultivated and Christian society.”

 

John Witherspoon, signer, member of the Continental Congress, served on over 100 committees, a teacher who influenced students who included; a President -James Madison, a Vice President, three Supreme Court Justices, 10 Cabinet members, 12 Governors, 21 Senators, 39 Representatives as well as numerous delegates to the Constitutional Convention and state conventions. He served as President of Princeton University. His quotes;

 

  1.“Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ.”  

 

  2.“Whoever is an avowed enemy of God; I scruple not [do not hesitate] to call him an enemy of his country.”

 

  3. John Adams at Witherspoon’s death said: “A true son of liberty. So he was. But first, he was a son of the Cross.” 

 

John Hancock, signer –“The very existence of the Republic … depends much upon the public institutions of religion.”             

 

Alexis deTocqueville, the Principle of Sovereignty of the People in America - “ It dominates the whole of American society. The Americans applied this principle even before their Revolution. Its growth was a result of the Revolution … in America the sovereignty of the people is neither hidden nor sterile as with most other nations; mores recognize it, and the laws proclaim it; it spreads with freedom and attains unimpeded its ultimate consequences.”

 

Chairman’s comment; Our Founding Fathers chose a Republic over a Democracy for many reasons; primarily because they remembered the most infamous “democratic” vote in all history. [i.e.] The lesson of a bureaucrat some 2000 years ago who turned to a crowd and asked which prisoner should be released – the crowd yelled - “give us Barabbas”. The ‘will of the people’ spoke that day. When the bureaucrat asked the people what should be done with this innocent, this Jesus, the crowd responded with a loud – CRUCIFY HIM.

 

Jesus was crucified by a majority vote exercising pure democracy which was the emotional, changing rule of the mob or as we call it today mobocracy. This is the reason our Founding Fathers wanted a Republic, a government based on the rule of law which could not be changed by the whims of the people.  

 

     Samuel Huntington, signer and Governor of Connecticut - “While the great body of freeholders are acquainted with the duties which they owe to their God, to themselves, and to men, they will remain free. But if ignorance and depravity should prevail they will inevitably lead to slavery and ruin.” Just wanted to know if the last one was true. Sorry it was so long. 

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#3) On August 15, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Gemini846 (89.64) wrote:

I just finished watching that John Adams Mini-series and I wonder daily whether or not a little revolution is what we need. Is the system we suffer from so corrupt and debt ridden that it cannot be repaired?

If we did throw out the bathwater, what would take it's place. How do we know (as they portreyed in the movie) that we are not trading one tyranical government with another. How would we know we weren't making our yoke heavier rather than lighter.

I don't understand how you can cite Japan and Europe as a model in contrast to the Christian principles of our founding fathers when thier value systems are so much different than our own. The same freedoms that allow the mob to speak out against the government and beg for a media induced frenzy of subprime loans also allow us to speak out against corruption.

The states need more power. The Federal Gov needs less. The problem is getting someone to yield that power w/out a gun in his face. Where are the leaders who would ask to be elected for the sole purpose of handing over thier power to the states? I don't see many.

States need to decide on thier own (CA is a good example) whether they want more logging, poluting or drilling.

It IS time for abolishment of the welfare state. It is time for abolishment of the income taxes that keep us in this welfare state. It is time to abolish payments to special interests.

Fuel taxes and tolls should be enough money to provide for contstruction of public roads and railways (and if neccesary airlines).

Light and fair property taxes should be sufficient to "protect" that property with a military and police force.

Public school should be corrected to provide fundamental education to the 8th grade and if it cannot be corrected it should be abolished.

The bankrupcy protection student loan holders have should be abolished. Does that mean nobody would be willing to finance overpriced education? Maybe.. good. College is pretty much worthless except for Doctors.

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#4) On August 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM, dinodelaurentis (56.46) wrote:

nothing meaningful to add. just so glad to see things like this and know i'm not alone... will the closest person to the cooler toss Ares' a beer?!

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#5) On August 15, 2008 at 8:18 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Well there are Americans who will do jobs.The myth is we won't but they will. 

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#6) On August 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM, abitare (99.43) wrote:

ALCON,

Thank you for the replies.

lquadland10 ,

Great videos and reply. The dirty jobs guy is great. I watch the show when I have time.

Gemini846

 Is the system we suffer from so corrupt and debt ridden that it cannot be repaired?

We can try and repair it, but it will/is being replaced. People are catching on to the constant lies and the inflation. I think many Americans are becoming more fearful at the size and scope of the US govenment. It is easier now to protect wealth, you can move money easier now. You can put money in other assets or other currencies and you can live overseas easier now. Warren Buffett went short the US dollar $20 billion and had a large position in Brazilian's currency.

what would take it's place. How do we know (as they portreyed in the movie) that we are not trading one tyranical government with another. How would we know we weren't making our yoke heavier rather than lighter. "

Do not know, it depends on the mode of transformation. The Ron Paul revolution has begun. He has spoken on these issues. RP has a very big following. 

I don't understand how you can cite Japan and Europe as a model in contrast to the Christian principles of our founding fathers when thier value systems are so much different than our own.

Japanesse people are industious and very hard working, Japan lacks natural resouces, but has one of the worlds leading economies. Europe has many different cultures and values. ie I was in Poland and there were people standing outside attending a Church because it was full inside. There are some very devote Christians in Europe. Values in Europe are very similar to ours, with less obesity and gluttony that is more common in the US. They also don't waste extreme amounts money a military idustrial complex.

I agree with everything else. I would recommend the Website:

www.lewrockwell.com and the blog Vox Day to you also.

College is pretty much worthless except for Doctors.

I would add engineers and speciatly programs developed for specific jobs also.

dinodelaurentis,

I will drink the beer.

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