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March 27, 2010 – Comments (14)

The GAO served notice on the EPA, that the new boss understands their job is important and wants it done right. Hat tip to David in Qatar for the link to the story. Their last boss let them suck at their jobs.

"Attitude reflects leadership" - Julius Campbell

The Government Accountability Office Punk'd Energy Star recently by submitting fake products and companies for certification..

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#1) On March 27, 2010 at 10:12 PM, ChrisGraley (29.78) wrote:

Great! Now our government agencies have to be policed by government agencies!

Who's policing the GAO?

It's just a different group to bribe. 

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. 

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#2) On March 27, 2010 at 11:33 PM, fmahnke (91.11) wrote:

Now I guess we'll need to set up yet another gov't agency devoted to resolving inter-agency conflicts. It's great to see how well the big gov't is working and that are hard earned tax dollars are not being wasted.  Where are our leaders ?

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#3) On March 28, 2010 at 6:14 AM, devoish (98.37) wrote:

Great! Now our government agencies have to be policed by government agencies! - ChrisGrayley

 "Now"?!? Like suddenly - for the first time in history - the books need auditing by a 90 year old agency.

Now I guess we'll need to set up yet another gov't agency devoted to resolving inter-agency conflicts. - fmahnke

inter-agency conflicts - another new development crests the horizon.

Perhaps we should call this line of reasoning the "Oblame-a Game-a".

Look. You guys should have jumped all over me for crediting the Obama administration for something the President probably had absolutely nothing to do with. Instead you saw right past that and had to imagine that that something new had happened. The real test for this little "punking" is how the EPA responds, which will hopefully be by demonstrating a little more capability than to just read a manufacturers claims and approve them. This "honor system" form of regulatory enforcement needs a more than occasional "punking". Hopefully some resources will go to actually auditing some of the claims made by manufacturers and some punishments - fines and maybe prison - for repeat violaters of the self reporting processes currently in place.

What I really should have pointed out was this claim by David is ridiculous when "proper cost accounting" happens in Gov't all the time and we hear about it from small gov't advocates and Obama bashers and "waste cutters" regularly. This is government regulation in a nutshell.  Without proper cost accounting, which can only happen in a competitive market with property rights, fraud and incompetence reign.

I am also not convinced this story is more about "proper cost control" than just simply "quality control".

I guess this is one of those "water always flows downhill" things for David regardless of whether or not it does. He will only see the EPA - which might need to come under attack in order to fight climate change legislation - and not the good job just done by the GAO.

See you tonight,

Devoish.

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#4) On March 28, 2010 at 9:46 AM, ChrisGraley (29.78) wrote:

devoish, you seemed to have missed the point of the responses. There shouldn't have to be a GAO policing the EPA.

The EPA shouldn't have any excuse for certifying gasoline powered alarm clocks. 

Yes there is a new Sheriff in town. His name is Barney Fiffe

Big government is always gonna have fraud and waste and be a waste of taxpayer money. 

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#5) On March 28, 2010 at 7:25 PM, devoish (98.37) wrote:

ChrisGraley,

There shouldn't have to be a Gov't either. But there does. And this time the part called the GAO, did its job exceptionally well.

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#6) On March 28, 2010 at 7:52 PM, ChrisGraley (29.78) wrote:

What kind of job did the EPA do?

Do you own any Energy Star appliances? 

I would assume that you would because you are a steward of the environment.

Do you trust those ratings now after seeing this? 

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#7) On March 28, 2010 at 8:44 PM, devoish (98.37) wrote:

What kind of Job did the GAO do?

I haven't trusted any rating since I learned that Gov't agencys were so underfunded they had to trust data from the people they were rating and had almost nothing left over for enforcement. Just because a "small Gov't" administration guts an agencys budget while adding to its workload and ignoring its advice doesn't mean the agency should not exist. It just means the Republicans should be thrown out and kept out.

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#8) On March 29, 2010 at 8:23 AM, ChrisGraley (29.78) wrote:

Great! Pat yourself on the back!

You are proud!

There's a new sheriff in town!

Just don't be surprised when everyone else doesn't share your pride.

But absolutely don't try to tell me that the $10.5 Billion  a year EPA is a small, underfunded agency.

Also don't be proud that we need yet another agency to make sure that they don't approve gasoline powered alarm clocks.

The fact that you don't see the flaw, is the biggest flaw.

Your politics are more important to you than reality.

One day after you see the carnage your politics created, you'll get real. That day will be a day too late.

devoish, you are part of the problem and you enjoy it.

 

 

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#9) On March 29, 2010 at 12:12 PM, devoish (98.37) wrote:

$10.5 billion is .009% of the economy they are expected regulate. Prior to environmental regulation private America chose to dump waste directly and indiscriminately into our rivers and air and still do where they can get away it which is mostly new unregulated industrys/products and the air.

The EPA probably needs to be at least triple the size they are. They need enough budget to do their own monitoring rather than passing the cost and the reporting of results onto private enterprise which might enable cheating by self interested partys.

I think the problem is those who imagine that if the Government goes away, the "problems" will to. I also think the problems our Gov't causes are much less harmful than the problems left uncorrected in any example of a "small Gov't" Country you can find.

In fact I think you would be whining about the EPA restricting commerce if they were doing their job better. But my opinion of your response to the EPA doing its job better is just conjecture on my part. Based on the thirty year history of "small Gov't" supporters talking points.

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#10) On March 29, 2010 at 12:25 PM, ChrisGraley (29.78) wrote:

Give me 10 guys at minimum wage and we can handle 20,000 EPA submissions a year and police ourselves.

You don't reward someone for failing to do their job by giving them more money.

I think paying the EPA the equivilent of the GDP of Cambodia is enough to get the job done.

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#11) On March 29, 2010 at 4:08 PM, devoish (98.37) wrote:

You don't reward someone for failing to do their job by giving them more money.

And you don't give a guy ten minimum wage employees who is unable to consider the possibility that they failed to do their job because their resources were limited.

I think paying the EPA the equivilent of the GDP of Cambodia is enough to get the job done.

Thats because you don't want the job done.

"Attitude reflects leadership" - Julius Campbell

(BTW, did you ever find out what the annual limit on your health insurance policy is?)

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#12) On March 29, 2010 at 8:09 PM, ChrisGraley (29.78) wrote:

Giving Energy star ratings is not rocket science. They have $10.5 billion. Surely they can afford 1 guy to make sure that we don't approve gasoline powered alarm clocks.

 

I didn't know I was supposed to be looking for the annual limit on my health insurance policy. 

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#13) On March 30, 2010 at 3:58 PM, devoish (98.37) wrote:

What is the process for giving energy star ratings?

I tried to remember the thread where I talked about most people not knowing what was in their healthcare policys. Kind of like buuying a car without knowing if it has wheels. I thought I had challenged you to tell me what the annual limits on your policy was. I'm surprised you would buy a policy without knowing. Perhaps it was some other anti-gov't poster. We can skip the healthcare thing in this thread.

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#14) On March 31, 2010 at 10:32 PM, ChrisGraley (29.78) wrote:

devoish (99.49) wrote:

What is the process for giving energy star ratings?

Did you want to know what it's supposed to be, or what it actually is? 

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