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Newspeak: Harry Reid argues that taxes are voluntary

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September 22, 2009 – Comments (14)

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#1) On September 22, 2009 at 4:02 PM, outoffocus (23.09) wrote:

Though I object to the use of welfare (moreso because of people's attitudes towards welfare recipients, not to the program itself) as the example used in the interview, it seems like according to Harry Ried's explanation, all laws are "voluntary".

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#2) On September 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM, XMFPhila100 (92.23) wrote:

Great clip. Where did you find this?

Well, taxes are voluntary, but not in the way Reid stumbles around.

Yes, the government can force you to pay taxes, but it can't force you to work. 

 

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#3) On September 22, 2009 at 4:05 PM, XMFSinchiruna (27.47) wrote:

outoffocus

Agreed ... illegitimate pre-emptive warfare would have made a much better example. :)

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#4) On September 22, 2009 at 4:10 PM, XMFSinchiruna (27.47) wrote:

TMFPhila

Right, the same way that auto insurance is mandatory but driving is voluntary... therefore auto insurance is voluntary. ;P

Now here's the kicker ... this means that health insurance under the proposed plan will be less voluntary than income tax. I might have a right to choose not to work to avoid taxation, but as far as I can tell there is no way around the penalty proposed for those failing to buy insurance.

The left hemisphere of my brain is reshuffling longstanding synapses of logic at the moment. Leave it to politicians ...  :)

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#5) On September 22, 2009 at 4:37 PM, GNUBEE (24.85) wrote:

Someone get this guy a job running the IRS...oh wait, nevermind

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#6) On September 22, 2009 at 4:48 PM, GenSkill (< 20) wrote:

 

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It seems his whole argument is that since you are required to file a return, under threat of fine/imprisonment, as opposed to the government cutting out the middleman and just taking it, taxes are voluntary.  The addition of bureaucracy means it is not forceful.

This is why no one trusts the liars in government.

 


 

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#7) On September 22, 2009 at 4:49 PM, GenSkill (< 20) wrote:

 

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It seems his whole argument is that since you are required to file a return, under threat of fine/imprisonment, as opposed to the government cutting out the middleman and just taking it, taxes are voluntary.  The addition of bureaucracy means it is not forceful.

This is why no one trusts the liars in government.

 


 

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#8) On September 22, 2009 at 4:50 PM, GenSkill (< 20) wrote:

I wish there was an edit function

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#9) On September 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM, lemoneater (78.14) wrote:

If you don't want to pay taxes, you are free to spend some time in jail so the rest of the taxpayers will be obligated to pay for your room and board.

I thought this was 2009. Not 1984.

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#10) On September 22, 2009 at 5:53 PM, peachberrytea (66.21) wrote:

"I thought this was 2009. Not 1984."

lol

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#11) On September 22, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Imperial1964 (98.28) wrote:

What a freakin' idiot.

Who chooses these leaders anyway?

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#12) On September 22, 2009 at 10:21 PM, devoish (98.26) wrote:

I get the distinct impression that there are some sentences missing from this video.

At least I hope so.

 

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#13) On September 23, 2009 at 1:47 AM, uclayoda87 (29.24) wrote:

It sounds like Harry took too many shots to head when he was a boxer.

He probably belives that gravity is voluntary since he has seen birds fly.  Obviously birds don't want to fall so they decide to ignore gravity and fly.

We have a mandatory age limit in order to become a senator, but maybe we should tighten our standards a little.

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#14) On October 05, 2009 at 12:25 PM, biotechmgr (34.53) wrote:

I thought I was a Democrat until I saw the dynamic duo of Reid and Pelosi. I could not imagine a worse pair of Congressional leaders. Now I have converted to political agnosticism. Neither dominant political party has the talent nor wisdom to run this country effectively. And no, I'm not hoping for a third party or Libertarians or others.

What I am concerned with is what people will turn to if we do have an economic depression. For there is where dictators are born, in severe political or economic climates.

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