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Obamacare Yay or Nay?

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February 25, 2010 – Comments (2) | RELATED TICKERS: AM.DL2 , CRIS

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#1) On February 27, 2010 at 3:30 PM, JPG101 (< 20) wrote:

Hi again,

Unfortunetly the video is accurate quite often but some of the things said are completely over the top and at best ridiculous  at worst just plain wrong. The video looks at  the sickest part of our health care system (Quebec where I used to work) and seem to extrapolate it as what socialised health care looks like. Quebec has the most badly administered system in Canada and reflects all that can go wrong with health care 'social'.  It's a sad system but at least you always get cere for 'real' stuff. Just don't go to the emergency room with nothing wrong with you as they do in this video. Imagine going to the US with nothing wrong with you in the US? It's cost you a  thousand dollars before you even get to see a doctor.

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#2) On February 27, 2010 at 9:55 PM, ChrisGraley (29.63) wrote:

OK JPG,

Thanks for showing up. 

I had a thought that Quebec may be the worst due to simply the language barrier.

It's a sad system but at least you always get cere for 'real' stuff.

I hope I'm not over stepping my reach, but I think you meant that at least you can get care for real stuff. Please tell me if I'm wrong about that.

What about the guy that stepped on the rusty nail and needed a tetanus shot? If one hospital is out, can't they just get him over to a hospital that is not out? Tetanus is kind of important to take care of quickly.

The guy that wanted a blood test, but didn't have a family doctor, what does that have to do with getting a blood test?

As bad as the US medical system is, if you walk into the emergency room and you are a homeless person, you will receive medical care. Not questions, not excuses, but medical care. He won't be able to pay and it will be added to everyone else's bill, but I'm more comfortable knowing that some homeless guy didn't die of tetanus or of a long wait for something else than I am worried about my own health care costs.

I've been in pretty dire straights before.

When I was a young athlete, I've done some pretty unique abuse to my body.  I had 8 broken bones by the age of 5.

I have never waited in a hospital waiting room as long as I did in Canada. When I got to the end of the line, they told me they could help me in 16 weeks. I had a 7 hour wait for someone to tell me that they can't help me. I had a friend that referred me to a private clinic that seemed like a nurse was the only one in charge. She looked at my knee and told me that it would cost $7300 for the operation, but she couldn't tell me if they had any doctor that specialized in sports medicine.

Is our system as bad as we think it is?

I'm not picking on JPG, he's a decent guy and more open to discussion than most people. He's also a doctor, so he gets my respect for trying to help people that most of you won't push an elevator button for.

We have to understand that the system is different over there, so there may be valid reasons for why they couldn't help them when they walked in. We also have to understand that we have to have to make the right choice and make it for the right reasons.

If you really want national health care, you need to know their problems. You need to know these problems before the vote. You don't want to be the guy wanting a blood test that has to go to the vet to get it. 

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