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April 16, 2009 – Comments (28)

Founding Bloggers released footage today of a heroic single mother.

She came to the Chicago Tea Party and witnessed a CNN reporter twisting the story.

She confronted that reporter and stood her ground.

This is not about Republicans vs. Democrats, although FAUX News and CNN wish it was.

This is about people vs. their government.

David in Qatar

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#1) On April 16, 2009 at 7:09 PM, abitare (36.90) wrote:

Great find.

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#2) On April 16, 2009 at 7:26 PM, kdakota630 (29.58) wrote:

Great video!

I loved watching that idiot reporter try to take that woman to task for "being antagonistic".

I'm not sure I agree with your "This is not about Republicans vs. Democrats, although FAUX News and CNN wish it was" sentiment.  I certainly get that impression from the CNN and MSNBC clips (particularly the one making the rounds of that jack-hole and his diatribe about the "tea-baggers"), but not from Fox.

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#3) On April 16, 2009 at 7:31 PM, soycapital (< 20) wrote:

That is great stuff man, the lady has it right, they ALL need to go, REP and DEM. Thanks for posting this!!

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#4) On April 16, 2009 at 8:21 PM, lavillex (68.95) wrote:

I really do not think the "establishment" understands just how fed up honest hard working Americans are with this crap. It seems like every other day another crook....scam...something is unveiled and it gets old....very old. I give the protester a thumbs up for not saying a few choice words....lol..I know I cannot hold my temper with the current state of the nation. Good find and thanks for posting this.

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#5) On April 16, 2009 at 9:03 PM, RookieQB (28.78) wrote:

Huuuuuuuuuuggggggggge REC. Now I see why Smith and Wesson has been skyrocketing lol

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#6) On April 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM, whereaminow (20.94) wrote:

Look at the top two stories on CNN.com

1. Bush-era memo: Insect use OK for interrogation.

"Attorney General Eric Holder says government workers who followed protocol won't be prosecuted"

2. Obama, Calderon back assault gun ban.

I don't see Republican vs. Democrat. I see Government versus the People. A government that is capable of torturing people also wants to restrict the ability of those people to defend themselves AND will not prosecute those that proposed the torture.

Think about that. Wake up people.

David in Qatar

 

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#7) On April 16, 2009 at 10:46 PM, soycapital (< 20) wrote:

I see no reason to prosecute people for waterboarding since it has been shown that this did save lives of other innocent family members. It needs to be kept in bounds. Torture is when you get a video camera and a machete and carve someone's head off of their shoulders and bob it around like a frisbee. Then you broadcast it for their family and the world to see.

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#8) On April 16, 2009 at 11:01 PM, whereaminow (20.94) wrote:

I thought the definition of that was murder.

I've been around the military my whole life.  The only reason torture is advocated is to extract information about foreign governments in order to protect their government.  It is never exercised to protect individual lives, liberty or freedom.  

If the government was capable of acting in a manner that was responsible to the people of the United States, then there would not have been protests in 306 cities today.  

Clearly the government is incapable.  There is no reason to believe that they will be able to torture judiciously on behalf of the people they can not properly represent.  

In other words, if I can't trust bureaucrats to wipe my dog's backside properly, why would I give them the power to torture American citizens - or any people for that matter?  Why would I trust that they can gain information that would save lives, or that even if they did, they would use that information in the proper manner?

These things should be wake up calls.

David in Qatar

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#9) On April 16, 2009 at 11:18 PM, whereaminow (20.94) wrote:

Damn you Glenn Beck. Why did you make me hate you during the Primary?  This is right on.

David in Qatar

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#10) On April 16, 2009 at 11:38 PM, mistermiranga (97.68) wrote:

good stuff DQ...forget the party lines and focus on getting things in order. we all get distracted by the rhetoric and agendas...including our own.

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#11) On April 17, 2009 at 12:01 AM, soycapital (< 20) wrote:

I thought the definition of that was murder.  Guess what I'm saying is in my opinion those type practice torture we do not.

I've been around the military my whole life.  The only reason torture is advocated is to extract information about foreign governments in order to protect their government.  It is never exercised to protect individual lives, liberty or freedom.  I would not say "never" without a lot of homework. I have information that it did save lives and I believe it.

If the government was capable of acting in a manner that was responsible to the people of the United States, then there would not have been protests in 306 cities today.  The government is a mess but personally I am not in the position to provide my own protection against these type of "people" killing innocent citizens all over the world.

Clearly the government is incapable.  There is no reason to believe that they will be able to torture judiciously on behalf of the people they can not properly represent.  I have little faith in our govt. also but if not them to provide for the defense of this country then who?

In other words, if I can't trust bureaucrats to wipe my dog's backside properly, why would I give them the power to torture American citizens - or any people for that matter?  Why would I trust that they can gain information that would save lives, or that even if they did, they would use that information in the proper manner? I know the feeling, vote and speak your heart, pray for wisdom and truth and live your life in such a way. I think we have a right to be angry about where our leadership has taken us. Let's hope we can do better in the future.

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#12) On April 17, 2009 at 3:24 AM, kaskoosek (61.81) wrote:

The problem is not TAXATION.

The problem is flawed spending.

 

There is high taxation in both Canada and Europe, but they do not have huge military budgets. The taxes there are more on the rich rather than anyone else which should inherently increase the standard of living.

 

I know that many would disagree with me, but not all forms of taxation is bad. If the end goal is to increase the standard of living, this is the only way it can be acheived. Yes some might argue that it comes at the price of lower productivity, but I would argue we do not have to be communis Russia. The golden mean is the best.

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#13) On April 17, 2009 at 5:40 AM, DaretothREdux (43.62) wrote:

The problem is not TAXATION.

The problem is flawed spending.

kaskoosek,

And you base this opinion on what? Your gut feeling? Because you clearly understand the inherent problem with taxes "it comes at the price of lower productivity"....and I wouldn't just "might" argue that...I would back it up with economic theory and data...

But keep on taxing the very rich...see if they don't leave and signifigantly reduce the productivity of society when they do.

Here's the real question: how can the gov't spend wastefully if they don't have the money to spend or the ability to print it out of thin air?

Seems like if you take away their money, then they can't be wasteful anymore.

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#14) On April 17, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Mary953 (73.63) wrote:

Isn't it amazing how the government can bring people together?  They are bringing the Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Independents, and members of every other party together as one, all shouting, "You Idiots!  The ship of state is sinking!  Stop blowing holes in the bottom of the boat to let the water out!  That won't work while we are adrift in an ocean of debt!!!"

And now the dear darling media talking heads want to give us forks to bail with.  If we suggest spoons or, heaven forbid, buckets, we are told to improvise.  We can't even go out and buy our own because the government took our incomes to buy those nifty gold-plated forks.  And where are the gov't officials who chose to blast the holes in the boat and then buy the forks with OUR money?  They are sitting back with their cronies and reassuring them that, as far as the money is concerned, "Spend all you like!  We'll Make More!"

The tea (bag) parties were non-violent and wide-spread.  Those two characteristics taken together should give the President and Congress a bit of a shiver when they stop to realize that the citizens of our country are at their most dangerous when we become quiet and determined.  At that point, we will preserve the Union, but throw the scoundrels out.  And the new office holders will be in office to allow the "too big to fail" companies to fail slowly so that the thing that fails will be the few large companies - and not our nation!

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#15) On April 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM, kdakota630 (29.58) wrote:

I wish I could give you a 2nd rec for the Glenn Beck clip.

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#16) On April 17, 2009 at 10:54 AM, ClandPhoenix (85.61) wrote:

I see no reason to prosecute people for waterboarding since it has been shown that this did save lives of other innocent family members. It needs to be kept in bounds. Torture is when you get a video camera and a machete and carve someone's head off of their shoulders and bob it around like a frisbee. Then you broadcast it for their family and the world to see. - Soycapital

Your seriously using an ends justify the means argument?

 

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#17) On April 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM, saintmoritz (< 20) wrote:

"Here's the real question: how can the gov't spend wastefully if they don't have the money to spend or the ability to print it out of thin air?

Seems like if you take away their money, then they can't be wasteful anymore."

 

Sadly, no.  The Starve the Beast strategy only works if spending is cut with taxes.  But it turns out that spending cuts are hugely unpopular among the US electorate.  Not in general, but localities want their piece of the federal pie.  So, we've have eight years of tax cuts and reckless spending, resulting in huge debt.

Where have all the fiscal conservatives gone?  Fine me one and I'll vote for him.

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#18) On April 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM, bostoncelitcs (43.82) wrote:

On heroic woman.......ha ha  she's a tool!   Where was "Joe the Plumber" yesterday?!!         The tea parties were organized by the Koch family and the Cato Institute.

All because the Obama adminstration is increasing the taxes on Americans making over $200,000 / year.......I guess that leaves out a lot of teachers, policemen and firefighters whose retirement savings were "decimated" by traders on Wall St. "shorting" stocks, driving their values into the ground while they reaped huge rewards.

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#19) On April 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM, whereaminow (20.94) wrote:

bostonceltics,

Have you ever offered a single comment on Motley Fool that wasn't partisan?  Who is the tool?

David in Qatar

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#20) On April 17, 2009 at 2:52 PM, whereaminow (20.94) wrote:

soycapital,

I just want to say that was an excellent reply to my argument. Kudos on a well thought out response.

David in Qatar

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#21) On April 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM, thepull (99.43) wrote:

I would take this tea party thing a tiny bit more seriously if Hannity, Beck and all the other right wing "pundits" didn't try and stir this up for the past month.

Please republican party, get your shit together so we can have a viable second party and not just a collection of media trolls.

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#22) On April 17, 2009 at 4:06 PM, feather70 (< 20) wrote:

This "heroic" woman is so rude. She's pointing and yelling in the reporter's face as though she were scolding a child. There is no room for back and forth dialog. When did it become socially acceptable to interact like this with a perfect stranger?

Anger management, Lady. No one will listen if you talk to them in this way, even if your point is a good one. Losing your temper and your humanity is NOT dealing with a situation. Even if someone disagrees with you, they deserve to be treated with respect. A finger pointed in the face is a bad way to get a point across, unless you are talking to a 5 year old. I hope you don't talk to your 5 year old that way, either, actually.

This protest does seem a bit fishy, too. They say it's not about a political party, just about the Government vs. People. Is this really true? I mean, let's be honest with ourselves here.

Were any of these people out there waving protest signs when George W. Bush was busily helping to create this situation by letting the financial markets self-regulate? (And by shipping crate loads of cash to Iraq?) Something tells me no. It's not like all the stupid spending just began when Obama was elected. If you are feeling burnt by the government, you have gotten into the game rather late I'd say.

Also, maybe these rioters aren't extremists, but in that case they should not invite the guys who hold the crazy signs (like "Obama is Satan"). Everyone is frustrated with the current bleak scenario. And I'm sure these rioters have a legitimate point to be made, but it would be easier to have a dialog without the reactionary crazy-acting.

Oh, and, frankly, if you are making over $200,000 a year, please for the love of Pete, stop whining. Just be grateful that you still have a job!

 

 

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#23) On April 17, 2009 at 4:54 PM, whereaminow (20.94) wrote:

feather70,

Where were you when Bush was sending troops to Iraq? I fought tooth and nail with people, even my own family, fighting Bush's policies. I even went so far as to help Chicken Hawk Republicans find employment in Iraq as contractors if they really wanted to put their lives where their mouth was.  (No one every took me up on the offer.)  Where was the Left? Impotently bitching on DailyKos.  At least these people have the guts to stand up (250,000 strong) and say enough is enough.

You think they got into the game late?  How late will you be?

David in Qatar

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#24) On April 17, 2009 at 4:55 PM, SuperPicks (29.05) wrote:

Excellent find.  The republicans & democrats are MISrepresenting us.

They all need to be thrown out. 

But the root cause will need to be fixed.  The current central banking system.  The central bank should not have monopolistic power over issuance the nations currency.  No one should.  Take that away & you fix the most worldwide issues.

Me, you, and everybody here have a simple solution, powerful way to change things.  More powerful than your vote.  Simply move all your deposits out of the big banks (out of Wells Fargo, Chase, Bank of America, JP Morgan, etc) and put it into ANY one of your local community banks.  This will have a tremendous effect & will empower the economy of your own community where you live.  Get your friends & family to do the same. 

If you really want to get utopian here then on top of hte above, implement the borda count voting system & allow equal representation by small banks in the fed reserve (instead of by size which makes the dominant banks like Goldman, JP Morgan, Wells run the world, if tiny mom & pop bank in your village had equal say, the fed would be alot more fair & green lol).

Flush the justice system to promote competition & break up oligopolies & monopolies.  And really bring to court price fixing cases (instead of the occassional case just for headlines sake).

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#25) On April 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Xciteddon (69.01) wrote:

Our Constitution is a contract issued by the government to each individual America giving us the inalienable rights and one of those rights is the right to assemble, peacefully, and have our voices heard. We also have a responsibility to our government to make sure when they do things we don't want that they know it. These rights are guarenteed to us by the Constitiution. We ( Americans) have fought and died to insure that it stays that way. For ourselves, for our children, and for our grandchildren. The Constitution has been bought and paid for in Blood, Sweat, and Tears. It is not a party thing. Republican or Democrat! It is an American thing! It is like our government wants to throw the Constitution out the window!
please stop and look what has happened over the last few years.

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#26) On April 17, 2009 at 6:19 PM, lucas1985 (< 20) wrote:

@whereaminow,
Have you ever offered a single comment on Motley Fool that wasn't partisan?  Who is the tool?"

Talk about double standards. "Your comments are partisan, mine are not"
If you can't deal with the simple fact that the Tea Parties are an astroturfing operation, you're the tool without a doubt. The fact that you can find honest (but clueless) people on the manifestations doesn't prove that that this is a genuine "bottom-up" movement.
I can smell astroturfing from the other end of the continent (I live in Argentina). The Tea Parties score high in my BS detector.
@Xciteddon,
The Constitution is an amendable document. It's not a holy scripture. Originalism is BS. The founding fathers of the USA couldn't foresee what the world would be 230 years later.

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#27) On April 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM, SuperPicks (29.05) wrote:

Youtube:This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Cable News Network, Inc.

 

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#28) On April 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM, farmnut1985 (21.05) wrote:

David, I appreciate your strong effort to provide well thought out, intelligent, and researched comments.  Other fellow fools who also do this I commend you, and too the tools, just keep talking because all you do is prove the correct points that have already been made. 

I thought the tea parties were great, I didn't attend one, but it is great to see that people are starting to see that our future is going to be highly unstable if we continue on the path that we are on of the high government spending, and it was non-violent. We have so many areas we can cut the budget, but instead it was expanded.    I also agree with Mary, that the government is doing a nice job of uniting the people in one voice, stop spending my 2009-2040 paycheck.

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