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Plagiarize This!



May 18, 2009 – Comments (11) | RELATED TICKERS: CH , EAT

I like CAPS.

I like the players, the opinions, the debates, the personalities, and the fights that go on.  Maybe, in another time, I would have been one of those cheering Romans in the Coliseum, rooting for the lions, the tigers, the bears, or the galdiators...who knows.

What really piques my interest is when, either in the original post or in the commentary, I come across an idea that makes me think, "Hey, I never thought of it that way..."  It's what keeps the ol' inflation vs. deflation debate fresh, keeps the gold bugs on their toes, and, as always, keeps the perma-bears and the perma-bulls busily tapping at their keyboards and chugging that coffee...or adult beverage of choice.

Amongst ourselves (us Fools of different caps on CAPS), there are some bloggers who either have the biggest following or the largest angry mob after them...or both...usually for the same reason:  They try to put together something new and coherent out of the torrent of green shoots, brown roots, and fertilizer that comes down the pipe.  And it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree---without any effort, you can think of 2-5 off the top of your head as you read this.

So, it was with great interest that I read these articles about a New York Times columnist who apparently lifted, wholesale, a paragraph from a blog and incorporated it into her own article.  (For those with a political bent, there's a whole 'nother tale behind the who's and the what's on this one.  For those who don't, just suffice it to say that the players are all rather polarizing figures.)

Why bring this up here?  Because, as I said, there's a lot of original work produced here on CAPS.  It may be flawed thinking to some, but you can't argue that the Defenders of the [Bull/Bear] Faith put a lot of sweat equity into their arguments.

The Question

My question to all you bloggers, readers, and commenters out there:  Have you  seen any examples of the information on CAPS spreading out into the wider world?

This isn't about calling someone on plagiarism; it's about seeing if there are patterns out there, where something said or reported or predicted on CAPS gets into that vast swamp we call the Public Consciousness.

Remember, this isn't to toot anyone's horn, or tweak anyone's nose, either.  I've written about a few things over time that either became a bigger news item later or suddenly was the focus of a couple of cable news cycles.  For me, I just took it as a small confirmation that I could occasionally predict which way the monkey would jump.

And if someone did lift one of my ideas, I'm more than happy to supply it.  I don't get paid to blog (*hint-hint*), so I must be doing it for some reason other than to hear my own voice.  So the whole "who wrote what when" controversy is a little academic to me...but then, academics seem to get really bent out of shape over these things...

So, have at it, CAPsters--ever find something you wrote or read or heard eerily familiar?  Would it even bother you if it did happen?

11 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On May 18, 2009 at 11:22 PM, checklist34 (98.74) wrote:

I tend to assume when I see my own original ideas somewhere else that the other person just had the same idea, not that I'm influencing all of cyberspace.  I take the humble view is what I'm saying.

But I occasionally rail at the hyper-bears with commentary along these lines:

"I don't understand you guys, you hyper bears, you folks that seem to WANT things to go down.  You WANT the market to crash, presumably so you can make a buck or gets a points in the CAPs game. 

But you're cheering for the harm of your fellow men, of your country, you're cheering for a longer recession, you're hoping people suffer.  Because be it stocks or bonds or a house, basically all Americans are long something.  And thats just bad kharma.

At least being long / a bull when you win everybody wins so there's somebody to have a beer with"


And in th elast few weeks i've seen commentaries like that on blogs and in various threads and posts several places. 

I doubt I started it, but you never know. 

Wouldn't it be awesome to just one time start someting big?

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#2) On May 18, 2009 at 11:42 PM, awallejr (39.57) wrote:

LOL, love your question.  I will be honest, yes sometimes I feel that way, especially when I hear others repeat what I might have recently blogged.  I suspect, tho, that in the end it is just coincidence. 

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#3) On May 18, 2009 at 11:59 PM, DarkToast (32.27) wrote:

Sometimes the TMF people quote from the blogs in their newsletters. In that fashion, some of what we blog about gets spread further and wider than one might think.

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#4) On May 19, 2009 at 9:03 PM, angusthermopylae (37.72) wrote:

UPDATE:  ...and then, this happens today.  Hilarious!

Just goes to show, ideas are more infectious than the Swine Flu!

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#5) On May 19, 2009 at 11:18 PM, awallejr (39.57) wrote:

Yeah well I wrote this in russiangambit's blog:

And Jim Cramer open's his show today with my same take.  I think he reads all my blogs.

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#6) On May 19, 2009 at 11:37 PM, angusthermopylae (37.72) wrote:

Hmmm...Cramer (generally despised in Fooldom) repeats one of your comments....

Should you celebrate?  Or should you drown your sorrows?  Tough choice...

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#7) On May 20, 2009 at 7:05 AM, AllStarPortfolio (22.87) wrote:


And Jim Cramer open's his show today with my same take.  I think he reads all my blogs.

Good stuff ! Congrats!

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#8) On May 26, 2009 at 3:44 PM, jmt587 (99.54) wrote:

Hey Angus, in your March 17 blog you said "I'll talk to you in about a week (or two) to let you know how it works out."  Have you looked back on your decision?  Are you still all cash?  How about an update and some insight into whether you think, in hindsight, it was the right move, or the wrong move for the right reason(s), etc.?

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#9) On June 05, 2009 at 8:49 AM, angusthermopylae (37.72) wrote:


Glad you called me on it--I've been meaning to write that,but I've been too busy and ashamed <---foreshadowing, if you're a literary type.

I'll write that up soon.  I've got the tracking for it all, and it is surely a tale of woe.

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#10) On June 05, 2009 at 8:54 AM, h2ound08 (< 20) wrote:

a few weeks back a blog by alstry got mentioned (though not by name) in the new york times (i think it was the times).  they did mention TMF explicitly though, which is pretty cool too.

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#11) On June 05, 2009 at 10:59 AM, jmt587 (99.54) wrote:

Cool, I look forward to it.  Most everything you write is witty and insightful, I can't wait to read what you think about your mindset then, how you'd approach similar situations in the future, etc.  As well as what you've done since, if anything.

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