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Putzin Completes Triple-Reverse in Election Theft

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November 26, 2007 – Comments (12)

Let's see: Put straw man into power position. Make plans to slide into other power position and pull strings from there. Harass, intimidate, and jail opposition. Cut back size of usual international monitoring team. Refuse to grant visas to that team. When that team gives up, tell the conspiracy-loving Russian consituency that the growing illegitimacy of the upcoming elecion is an American plot to make it so.

Hey, seems like a good place to invest money, no?

Sj

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#1) On November 26, 2007 at 1:15 PM, Capsperson wrote:

Unfortunately that scenario provides "stability" !!

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#2) On November 26, 2007 at 1:22 PM, wingedcreat0r (43.34) wrote:

...one-quarter or more of Russian adults say they would definitely or probably vote for Stalin were he alive and running for president, and less than 40 percent say they definitely would not.

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#3) On November 26, 2007 at 2:27 PM, EScroogeJr (< 20) wrote:

Isn't lumpenproletariat's affection for Putin strikingly similar to the sentiment expressed so often on Yahoo message boards by posters falling in love with stocks like HEB and RZ? If the world looks too bleak when you admit to yourself, "my favorite stock or president stinks", people will chose to close their eyes, hold their noses, and defend their favorite stock or president by attacking those nasty bears/liberals who point out the obvious.

See also my last post,

http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/ViewPost.aspx?bpid=23755&t=01005914043115362412 

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#4) On November 26, 2007 at 7:41 PM, kristm (99.73) wrote:

I marked WBD underperform over the weekend... Good timing on my part.

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#5) On November 27, 2007 at 12:07 AM, MakeItSeven (31.96) wrote:

The average Americans tend to think they know more about another country, even more so than the local people.  If you look for Putin in wikipedia, there's some good read, including why Russians like him (Sound like just another age old belief in "It's the economy, stupid" to me).  And it happens to talk about Kasparov too

Here are some excerpt for those who don't want to go that far:

"According to public opinion surveys conducted by Levada Center, Putin's approval rating was 81% in June 2007, and the highest of any leader in the world.[98] His popularity rose from 31% in August 1999 to 80% in November 1999 and since then it has never fallen below 65%.[99] Observers see Putin's high approval ratings as a consequence of higher living standards that improved during his rule and Russia's reassertion of itself on the world scene,

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In 2006 and 2007 Dissenters' Marches were organized by the opposition group Other Russia,[107] led by former chess champion Garry Kasparov and national-bolshevist leader Eduard Limonov. Demonstrations in several Russian cities were met by police action, which included interfering with the travel of the protesters and the arrests of as many as 150 people.[108] After the suppression of these meetings raised concerns at the Russia-EU summit, Other Russia was allowed to have some peaceful meetings.[109] The Dissenters' Marches have received little support among the Russian general public, according to popular polls. [110] The Dissenters' March in Samara held in May 2007 during the Russia-EU summit attracted more journalists providing coverage of the event than actual participants, although the government prevented many of the opposition from reaching Samara."

Sound like the worst of it was to have 150 people thrown in jail.  I remember during the 2004 demonstration in NY, police used nets to round up people, demonstators and passerbys alike, and threw them all in jail, around 500 or so.

As for investment, didn't JP Morgan just upgrade some Russian stocks as undervalued this morning ?

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#6) On November 27, 2007 at 12:50 AM, MakeItSeven (31.96) wrote:

Here's some more stock-related info, as opposed to FUD:

" The value of publicly traded Russian stocks has increased by $1 trillion during Putin's reign. Last week, Bear Stearns Cos. upgraded its Russian stock recommendation, citing reduced political risk and Putin's ``intent to play an important role'' following the March 2, 2008, presidential election."

And here is the rest of it.

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#7) On November 27, 2007 at 10:56 AM, EScroogeJr (< 20) wrote:

MakeItSeven, this is a very naive view of things. You have simply bought into the Wall Street version of "just another China". I have news for you: Russia is not China and Putin is not Deng Xiao Ping. You want a truly relevant analogy? Think of one generalissimo who used to wear shiny boots, smoked "Herzegovina Flor", dabbled economics, especially with regard to mass-scale production beyond the Arctic circle, showed great concern for the output of pig iron, befriended artists, writers, sportsmen and self-taught geneticists, and had a 99.99% approval rating.

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#8) On November 27, 2007 at 12:57 PM, TMFBent (99.80) wrote:

MakeItSeven has apparently confused the power of a free market with the coincidence increasing oil prices.

Russia is, according to every article I read, riddled with graft from the bottom to the top. Bribes are a way of life, and those in high places use the bureacracy to punish anyone who doesn't pay up as demanded. (Hmmm. Your papers don't seem to be in order. Good luck opening your restaurant. Oh, by the way, I'll be willing to pay you 65% of what you paid for the building.)

Want to invest in a region where cheating and thuggery are the norm? Fine, make sure you're getting a very good discount on the company. You buy because the floggers on Wall Street say "things are A-OK!!!" and you're just another sheep lining up for a shearing.

 

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#9) On November 27, 2007 at 2:28 PM, MakeItSeven (31.96) wrote:

I had a friend who said exactly what you said about Russian mafia and stuff 6 months ago when I said VIP was a good buy 1t $15.

Russia now has flat tax, BTW.  The first coutry which adopted flat tax.   Whether the economy is getting by oil price or not, it's does not matter much as long as oil price does not collapse, does it ?  You can say pretty much the same thing about Brazil too, without the commodity price increase, they don't have much to invest in.

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#10) On November 27, 2007 at 4:00 PM, EScroogeJr (< 20) wrote:

I have one hint for you: Russia never seems more stable than in the last year preceding the collapse. Think of 1904, 1913, 1929, 1982 to get a better perspective.

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#11) On November 27, 2007 at 5:06 PM, MakeItSeven (31.96) wrote:

I have no idea what you're talking about EScroogeJr.  I thought we were talking about Russian economy under Putin, not Wall street collapse in 1929.  Check TRF chart from 2001 until now.  Is a 10 times return in 6 years good enough ?

 

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#12) On November 27, 2007 at 6:40 PM, EScroogeJr (< 20) wrote:

1929 refers to the end of NEP.

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