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"What can you say to reassure me, but more importantly my parents, that I will be able to sufficiently support myself after I graduate?" The Epstein dilemna



October 18, 2012 – Comments (20)

Well  Jeremy ~ the fake undecided voter ~  who  after reading  the above article  is really  IMHO another brain-washed  youth ~  by an  skewed  politically  biased educational system.

If  you'd be willing to listen to my advice,  I'd  probably  ask for the candidate you'd  said  you wouldn't vote for in tommorrow's election  for  a  job today.

Going to school  for  4 years  for  exercise ???  what kind  of  B.S.   Bachelors of Science degree is that ?

wow ?  maybe  you should also  take   liberal  arts  as  a  double major. 

So  you're concerned ? 

We asked him if he had other job offers considering how quickly his first one happened.

Epstein paused.

"Other than the one, really, that Mitt Romney offered me 5 minutes into the debate, not really," he said. "You know, I don't want to be viewed as just some person who went on TV in front of 60 million people and asked the two most powerful men for jobs. I asked the question because it's how a lot of people in my position feel - 20 year old students just like me who are actually really nervous about whether or not they will get a job and how they can support themselves."

He spent part of the day revising his resume. The debate experience is going to be the first thing prospective employers read.

"That's probably going to go at the top - actually my entire resume," he said. "I think that instead of including my previous work history, I'm just going to write, 'appeared and asked the first question on 2012 town hall debate.'"

But Epstein isn't expecting to be part of a potential Romney administration. He still considers himself undecided but leans toward one candidate.

"Well, if the election was today, I probably would vote for the president, so I don't know if you would call me undecided," he said. "But it would be a good label to put me under."  


I find people like  Jeremy both  funny  and  sad.

One  candidate  created  real world  jobs ~   created  a real world start up business ~   is experienced  in  what  it takes to get  non public government work going  as well as what it takes to work in government  ~  and  also offerred  you employment ?

The other candidate is the one  the  educational system has  brain-washed  you into favoring. Has  spent and borrowed  away  ~  squandered  your future.   Wouldn't  hire  you  as  he probably doesn't really care for you nor  does  or  did he ever  manage  anything outside of the government sector.  ~  not even  a lemonade stand. ~ 

My advice to you Jeremy  stay in school for the rest of your life and simply borrow and spend other people's money.  Because  the real world  is rough,  it's not fair,  it's ugly,  and it's just waiting to chew  you up and spit you out.   Live  at  home.  At best  your future is bleak ? maybe instead of just partying on the week-ends ?  party on any day ending in y ?

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#1) On October 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM, edwjm (99.90) wrote:

As usual, L0RDZ looks at the world through his extreme ideology, and makes a party-line response.  Jeremy asked a reasonable question that is on the minds of many people like him.  He watched the rest of the debate and answered the questions he was asked afterward honestly.  The harsh criticism he has received from L0RDZ is totally undeserved.  The harsh criticism by L0RDZ of President Obama is likewise totally undeserved. 

Like L0RDZ's other posting here on CAPS, this is nothing more than political posturing and propaganda

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#2) On October 18, 2012 at 12:49 PM, AFMS (< 20) wrote:

He's right though it is sad.  People don't even know what's good for them anymore.  The  "brainwashing" has taken affect on the weak minded and younger generations who no longer believe in the once "American  dream" And these people don't want it, they don't want to work for it, they wan't to be limited and dictated what they can do by the government. The country is headed towards a socialist economic system.  And the blind can't see

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#3) On October 18, 2012 at 12:51 PM, NEMnyWtch (< 20) wrote:

L0RDZ - Brilliant!!!!!  Extremely truthful, and funny.  I love how the staging of this thing was so stacked it was obvious to anyone with half a brain, from the supposed "undecided" voters, to the location, to that ridiculous "watch to see if they like what they hear" heartbeat line at the bottom of the screen.  Wake up America, time to get real.  As in real jobs, a real economy, and real honest about where we are, where we are going, and how we are going to get there.

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#4) On October 18, 2012 at 2:23 PM, drgroup (69.49) wrote:

LordZ... in edwjm's attempt to describe your ideology he has aptley described himself. One claim he can't hang on to is openmindness. It is all genetics; can't be changed...

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#5) On October 18, 2012 at 3:03 PM, kbtoys99 (< 20) wrote:

Jeremy was taught that the Constitutin is "Organic" and evolves over time. The liberal educational system has brainwashed these kids with a belief system that these politicians can actually "create jobs" and "manage this economy".The problem here is that Americans dont understand that our Constitution was set up as one of "enumerated powers". Until the American sheeple wake up to the fact that BOTH sides of the political spectrum do not have their best interests at heart and that a sound money policy is the ONLY solution, we will continue with this madness.

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#6) On October 18, 2012 at 4:01 PM, edwjm (99.90) wrote:


"aptley" is not in any dictionary I have consulted.  I wonder if you and L0ORDZ are related.  You both have the same hateful attitude.

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#7) On October 18, 2012 at 4:02 PM, JaysRage (79.85) wrote:

This question could have been interpreted in one of two ways, I think.   

1) "Could you please assure me that I will have the job that I'm entitled to when I get done with college?"

2) "What are you going to do to help facilitate an economic environment where businesses are hiring and I can have a realistic shot to compete for a job?"

It sure sounds like #1 to me.    I'd probably lose the election with my answer to it.   I would tell the kid that all I can give him is an business-friendly tax environment where businesses are encouraged to expand and to hire, and it's up to him to acquire skills that are desireable to those employers and to convince them that he's the one they want to help their business grow.  


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#8) On October 18, 2012 at 4:11 PM, AFMS (< 20) wrote:


consulted? that word seems a little out of league when trying to explain yourself searching for that word in a dictionary which is off by a letter.  I hope for your sake you didnt have to "consult" with anyone or thing to figure that out.   Let's not get out of hand here

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#9) On October 18, 2012 at 4:38 PM, L0RDZ (88.15) wrote:


Not to say anything negative  about  as to how slow or how someone just doesn't  get it   I  think  the word  you meant to look up is:


Sometimes words can be confusing, especially when people  don't always mean  what they say or say what they mean, let alone always spell  words  the same way as others ( or maybe just maybe they have a typo or a mis-spelling).

Now that we have that    issue  hopefully resolved ?

The   question from J  according to the transcripts went something like this:

Q    Mr. President, Governor Romney, as a 20-year-old college student, all I hear from professors, neighbors and others is that when I graduate I'll have little chance to get employment.  What can you say to reassure me, but more importantly, my parents, that I will be able to sufficiently support myself after I graduate?

Why is it that  all that he hears  from college professors, neighbors,  and  others  that when  J  graduates he'll have little to no chance to be employed ?

Now for  the responses from both  candidates:

GOVERNOR ROMNEY:  Thank you, Jeremy.  I appreciate your question.  And thank you for being here this evening.  And to all of those from Nassau County here that have come, thank you for your time.  Thank you to Hofstra University and to Candy Crowley for organizing and leading this event.

Thank you, Mr. President, also for being part of this debate.

Your question is one that's being asked by college kids all over this country.  I was in Pennsylvania with someone who had just graduated.  This was in Philadelphia -- and she said I've got my degree, I can't find a job.  I've got three part-time jobs; they’re just barely enough to pay for my food and pay for an apartment.  I can't begin to pay back my student loans.

So what we have to do is two things.  We have to make sure that we make it easier for kids to afford college, and also make sure that when they get out of college there’s a job.  When I was governor of Massachusetts, to get a high school degree you had to pass an exam.  If you graduated in the top quarter of your class, we gave you a John and Abigail Adams scholarship -- four years tuition-free to the college of your choice in Massachusetts that's a public institution.

I want to make sure we keep our Pell Grant program growing. We're also going to have our loan program so that people are able to afford school.  But the key thing is to make sure you can get a job when you get out of school.  And what’s happened over the last four years has been very, very hard for America’s young people.

I want you to be able to get a job.  I know what it takes to get this economy going.  With half of college kids graduating this year without a college -- excuse me -- without a job and without a college-level job, that’s just unacceptable.  And likewise, you got more and more debt on your back.  So more debt and less jobs.  I'm going to change that.  I know what it takes to create good jobs again.  I know what it takes to make sure that you have the kind of opportunity you deserve.

And kids across this country are going to recognize we're bringing back an economy.  It’s not going to be like the last four years.  The middle class has been crushed over the last four years.  And jobs have been too scarce.  I know what it takes to bring them back, and I'm going to do that and make sure when you graduate -- when do you graduate?

Q    2014.

GOVERNOR ROMNEY:  2014.  When you come out in 2014, I presume I'm going to be president -- I'm going to make sure you get a job.  Thanks, Jeremy.

Q    Thank you.

GOVERNOR ROMNEY:  Yeah, you bet.

THE PRESIDENT:  Jeremy, first of all, your future is bright. And the fact that you’re making an investment in higher education is critical not just to you, but to the entire nation.  Now, the most important thing we can do is to make sure that we are creating jobs in this country, but not just jobs -- good-paying jobs, ones that can support a family.

And what I want to do is build on the 5 million jobs that we’ve created over the last 30 months in the private sector alone.  And there are a bunch of things that we can do to make sure your future is bright.

     Number one:  I want to build manufacturing jobs in this country again.  When Governor Romney said we should let Detroit go bankrupt, I said, we’re going to bet on American workers and the American auto industry, and it’s come surging back.  I want to do that in industries not just in Detroit but all across the country.  And that means we change our tax code so we’re giving incentives to companies that are investing here in the United States and creating jobs here.  It also means we’re helping them and small businesses to export all around the world to new markets.

     Number two:  We’ve got to make sure that we have the best education system in the world.  And the fact that you’re going to college is great, but I want everybody to get a great education. And we’ve worked hard to make sure that student loans are available for folks like you.  But I also want to make sure that community colleges are offering slots for workers to get retrained for the jobs that are there right now, and the jobs of the future.

     Number three:  We’ve got to control our own energy.  Not only oil and natural gas, which we’ve been investing in, but also we’ve got to make sure we’re building the energy sources of the future -- not just thinking about next year, but 10 years from now, 20 years from now.  That's why we invest in solar and wind and biofuels, energy-efficient cars.

We’ve got to reduce our deficit, but we’ve got to do it in a balanced way -- asking the wealthy to pay a little bit more along with cuts so that we can invest in education like yours.  And let’s take the money that we’ve been spending on war over the last decade to rebuild America -- roads, bridges, schools.  We do those things, not only is your future going to be bright, but America’s future is going to be bright as well.

MS. CROWLEY:  Let me ask you for a more immediate answer, beginning with Mr. Romney.  Just quickly, what can you do?  We’re looking at a situation where 40 percent of the unemployed have been unemployed for six months or more.  They don't have the two years that Jeremy has.  What about those long-term unemployed who need a job right now?

GOVERNOR ROMNEY:  Well, what you're seeing in this country is 23 million people struggling to find a job and a lot of them, as you say, Candy, have been out of work for a long, long, long time.  The President’s policies have been exercised over the last four years and they haven’t put Americans back to work.  We have fewer people working today than we had when the President took office.  If the -- the unemployment rate was 7.8 percent when he took office; it’s 7.8 percent now.  But if you calculated that unemployment rate taking back the people who dropped out of the workforce, it would be 10.7 percent.

We have not made the progress we need to make to put people back to work.  That's why I put out a five-point plan that gets America 12 million new jobs in four years and rising take-home pay.  It’s going to help Jeremy get a job when he comes out of school.  It’s going to help people across the country that are unemployed right now.

And one thing that the President said, which I want to make sure that we understand -- he said that I said we should take Detroit bankrupt.  And that's right.  My plan was to have the company go through bankruptcy like 7-Eleven did and Macy's and Continental Airlines, and come out stronger.  And I know he keeps saying, you wanted to take Detroit bankrupt.  Well, the President took Detroit bankrupt.  You took General Motors bankrupt.  You took Chrysler bankrupt.  So when you say that I wanted to take the auto industry bankrupt, you actually did.

And I think it's important to know that was a process that was necessary to get those companies back on their feet so they could start hiring more people.  That was precisely what I recommended and ultimately what happened.

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#10) On October 18, 2012 at 4:43 PM, catoismymotor (< 20) wrote:

What would the dilema look like if it were named Barbarino or Horshack?

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#11) On October 19, 2012 at 4:03 AM, awallejr (52.41) wrote:

As in real jobs, a real economy, and real honest about where we are, where we are going, and how we are going to get there.

Yes we want those minimum wage jobs we lost to China back.  We want to be able to earn $7 an hour so the Romneys can make millions. What a bunch of suckers.

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#12) On October 19, 2012 at 1:04 PM, JaysRage (79.85) wrote:

I'd take them back, along with all the tax revenue from the properties and employees and all the tag-along job opportunities that come along with that.   Along with those jobs come all the construction jobs to build the factories and all of the people required to maintain the facility....along with management jobs and engineers and fiance jobs.   

We'd probably lose a handful of jobs in logistics, but we'd offset that with less port congestion issues.    

It takes a dramatic labor cost reduction to offset the logistical costs of manufacturing overseas.    With increased fuel prices and port congestion, the case is better than ever to get back manufacturing that could be here back in the states, paying reasonable wages.....not $7 but probably not $30 either.     

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#13) On October 19, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Turfscape (< 20) wrote:

>>What would the dilema look like if it were named Barbarino or Horshack?<<

This has been the only worthwhile comment in this thread. Thank you Cato!

To L0RDZ...seriously? You're supporting Governor Romney's response to this kid? Governor Romney's response, in a nutshell:

>>"We have to make sure that we make it easier for kids to afford college"
(translation: we need to pour government dollars into the problem)

>> "I want to make sure we keep our Pell Grant program growing"
(translation: more government spending will solve everything)

>>"But the key thing is to make sure you can get a job when you get out of school"
(translation: Because, even though I call myself a 'republican', I truly believe that government creates jobs)

>>"I know what it takes to create good jobs again"
(translation: not, just like the other candidate, I'll just throw out a bunch of platitudes and vague statements without any details or real plan to follow through on my false promises)

>> "When you come out in 2014, I presume I'm going to be president -- I'm going to make sure you get a job."
(translation: I'm going to pretend I can solve the employment issue by tricking everyone into thinking I'll use my milliions of dollars to hire everyone personally...what does it matter? After I'm in office I can break all my promises anyways without any repercussions)

Yup, L0RDZ, you are a wonderful, modern conservative.

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#14) On October 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, L0RDZ (88.15) wrote:

WOW replace your f  with a  D and  mista scape you'll remember how I feel about  your bogus  opinions  and your poor translations,  who are you to come  and comment that all the  comments  are  in your view  unworthwhile ?  who exactly  are  you again ? and wow  at how  you stink  in trying to misrepresent  what Romney said...

Making college or education affordable  means stopping  the free money  and bogus loans  to over-paid over feed so called  institutions of learning.   Spending less money, but getting more bang  for the buck.

Turf,  again wow  when did Romney ever say subject to your interpretation  the bs  you are putting on my blog all the while dissing anyone who commented on it... seriously,   are you gonna say  that  Romney  has never done anything in the private sector so as to enable jobs and an environment that is positive  to  job  creation.

I recall  you being an  Obama  enabler ~  supporter ~ big time cheerleader,  so  your  late comments  are to be expected, but come on really ???  really ?

It was Romney who was  coming out with his own immigration policy  that forced Obama  to finally  do something and  so as to make it look like Romney did not beat Obama to the punch with immigration.

When did Romney say he was going to personally hire everyone ? let alone  that  kid  who's  going to school  for exercise ?  to learn exercise ?  is almost like someone in high school basing his HS Diploma  upon  advanced gym.

 It's  really representative of the education system that now based upon his  deceit  ( that  J kid )  in pretending to say he was  undecided  when in fact he really wasn't...   to  now base his  resume  upon the fact that he asked  the first question in  the  second  presidential debate.  Dellusion  at  best,  unless the job  is  another bs government created  do nothing job where  you simply  read  off  easy questions  to politicians  in  debates.

Otherwise how is that going to contribute to say him getting a job  at  a gym ?  why should we hire you ?  ummm,,,  because I  got on the phone,  because my sister wasn't old enough to vote  and  I was  uniformed  to make a decision as to which candidate  is  better  for me so as to create  an  environment positive to have jobs available for me when I fully enter the work force.

Yeah,,  J...  go  and vote  for Obama...  see how that will work out for you... when your still at  your mom's and dad's  and  you  can't even  find  a job  at minimum wage because  MBA's will be  beating you out for them  under the lets punish sucess  so as to  fuel  more stupid  brain washed kids ~  more over-paid  over taxed special gov-ment classes  of  democrat only  teachers ~  pigs ~  firefighters ~  and the like.

Redistribute redistribute  ~ borrow  ~  borrow ~  spend spend  watch  it  just evaporate away  and all the while play the blame game until  your  out of office and than simply rewrite history.

In the meantime it's really  Bush's fault anyways right.


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#15) On October 21, 2012 at 3:29 PM, awallejr (52.41) wrote:

Yeah,,  J...  go  and vote  for Obama...  see how that will work out for you

Well Bizarro Alstry as for me it has worked out very well so far.  The stock market doubled.  Oh yeah I forget you don't think he deserves any credit. 

Under Romney I know what we are going to get, a double dip recession.  He's pretty much told you if you read between the lines.  He won't reappoint Bernanke, which implies he wants a hawk.  He wants to get into a trade war with China which will happen with his so called "day one" promise of calling them a currency manipulator.  He's going to fire a lot of federal employees.  God knows what he is doing with the tax code, but will hurt the finally improving real estate market. Yup double dip recession.

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#16) On October 21, 2012 at 5:49 PM, L0RDZ (88.15) wrote:

Walleee no one asked you unless  you happen to be that kid J ... from the debate  which  I  highly  doubt  as he seems  to  have more sense than you.

Saying the market double  after it tanked and given all the ridiculous stimulus  and money printing  isn't  saying much  it's kind of like saying  you double your investment but failing to point out that  you originally  lost  90%  in the previous situation.  Besides most things seem  to have already doubled  unless of course you are counting the things that are becoming obsolete  or  are  over priced to begin with  like say  televisions.

Your such a tool  its laughable...  you'd rather serve your own self interests than  see  or  give  someone who's  looking to make real changes  a  chance.

You want to give credit yet overlook  all the negatives ?  credit for what  ?   them keeping the interest rate manipulated ?  soon  it wouldn't surprise me  if  they were to enact a special additional tax on anyone who actually holds dollars,   your  giving  the wrong people credit  for  recovering   when  had  the  business cycles just played itself out we'd be in  much better shape..

So we went from 401 k's  down  to 101 k's  and as you say under Obama's  we've  gone up to  201 k's  wow...   so we spend  close to a trillion in a bogus stimulus  under Obama much like  the 700 billion  tarp  bs...   and   wow  unless you timed the market  or  actually  had money to invest in 2009  and made wise decisions maybe  your money has doubled...  but   look  at  the costs ?

WHats wrong with real estate prices falling  to realistic un-bubble  levels...   I  know plenty  of people  who  have been able to buy several houses  where before they couldn't even afford a single house.

What does Obama want to do ???  borrow more money to give so that local governments  that  cannot  add  non needed over-paid  additional  gov jobs  more of the same...   redistribute an already shrunk pie...   do we really need  more  teachers  when  the current ones  can't  even  cut it,  do we really need more so called police officers  who are going around killing  naked women ???

Or pay for additional  racist teachers to bully students.

Giving Obama  credit  is like awarding  a normal  world class olympian  medals  for entering and winning  the special olympics.

Its just that wrong... given  how badly  he and his brothren  in the congress  fubared things up...

Barney Frank

Chris Dodd

Freddie  and  Fannie

Where is  the  out-rage  over all the money blown towards Freddie and Fannie ???

What about all those in congress and the government who got loans  at  FOA  rates   Friends of  Mozillo ???  Angelo ???

WHy  do you think  Dodd  is not seeking re-election ???

Do you really  think  this is improvement ?  given all  the assets and resources  we  have   squandered ?  for  what ?

So called job  creation  isn't  enough to keep up with whats needed to simply  allow all the new children who are becoming adults  to have jobs.

You scoff  at  seven dollar an hour jobs,  but  in many places in the world  the  wages  are  in pennies  not dollars.

You are so blind  in  your self interests  that you dare not step out  and  see  those who are paying for  the hubris and poor policies that are ruining  real  prosperity  and  recovery.

You speak  of  class war fare  as  if  it  was just a  computer game  with  no real world consequences,  you  presume way too much  and make generalizations  and  ridiculous analogies and  statement of opinions as facts.

I'd  love to see a lot of  Fed employees  re-assigned...   Namely a lot of the top and middle managers  who steal from tax-payers  while providing very little.

Do we really need  people  like  Jessie  Jackson's son who is being investigated  for  wrongly  using money to refurbish  his multi-million dollar home ?  The  one with the drug problems  who I believe also  had a stomach reducing operation to curb  his gluttonous  soul the one with the mood disorder  the one who  was mentioned as trying to buy the senate seat from the former governor...  Junior  is his name and much like his father corruption is his game ~  allegedly.

The one  from Barrack's  old  stomping grounds ~ chicago...

The one seeking re-election despite not being at work and not doing his job  all the while  being investigated  and having criminal probing  into his affairs.

On Monday, The Wall Street Journal reported that federal investigators are conducting a criminal probe over allegations that he used campaign donations to decorate his house.

Despite his mounting troubles, most political analysts believe Jackson is a safe bet to win reelection next month in his highly Democratic district.

“For nearly 18 years I have served the people of the second district,” he continues in the robocall. “I am anxious to return to work on your behalf, but at this time it is against medical advice, and while I will always give my all to my constituents, I ask for your continued patience as I work to get my health back.”,0,6290446.story

Earlier this month, Rep. Jackson was seen out drinking for two consecutive nights at a tavern near his Washington home in the DuPont Circle area.

Rev. Jackson, when asked whether the drinking interfered with his son’s recovery, said he had no comment. He also declined to elaborate on what ails his son, whose condition has been described variously as bipolar disorder and bipolar depression.


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#17) On October 22, 2012 at 2:25 AM, awallejr (52.41) wrote:

Tool of who Bizarro Alstry?  I didn't pick any sides until Romney came out with his tax deduction plan.  In all honesty Romney probably would be better for me taxwise but I don't care about that.

We've been down this road elsewhere.  I give and gave kudos to Bernanke for keeping this country out of depression despite all the efforts by the Norquist machine.  I give credit to Obama for keeping taxes low during the early recovery.  I give him further credit for supporting Bernanke, who, despite all the lack of any fiscal aid, has done his darndest to keep this country from going into a depression.

Last I looked this is a stock investing site.  So forgive me if I don't say "yay we doubled" since the crash from, drumroll please, the BUSH era.

And what's with the Jesse Jackson rampage?  That is a total nonsequitur.

Go root for a guy whose real motive is to simply add another notch to his belt.  A guy who really doesn't give a rat's arse about most people.

And as for Ryan?  Biden told you he believes in his faith but won't impose it on anyone else.  Ryan told you he believes in his faith and he WILL impose it on others.

I don't forget end of 2008 early 2009.  We were on the BRINK.  This Country was about to crash worse than what happened during the great Depression.  It didn't happen.  And I don't credit the Republicans for that.


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#18) On October 22, 2012 at 2:34 AM, awallejr (52.41) wrote:

Oh, and P.S., the movie WALL-E so owned.

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#19) On October 22, 2012 at 2:01 PM, L0RDZ (88.15) wrote:

A wall

It's kind of like saying or giving  yourself credit  for  creating 5 million jobs  yet  fail  to mention,  perhaps overlooking the fact  that you also had  5 million jobs lost  equaling a big  fat zero....  children can you count to zero ? 

It's kind of like saying  you were originally not  for  Obama,  when all along  deep down in your soul...  like  Jay's Rage  told  you succinctly:

You are indeed a fan, the biggest cheerleader  for him...  so get out your pom poms,  put on that pretty  out-fit,  put on some blush,  some eye liner,  and  some black lip-stick.  And  give us a  cheer...





who do we appreciate..

Nobama.... Nobama...

Gimme  a  No

Gimme a  B

Gimme a A

Gimme a M

Gimme a O  opps  I mean  a  A

whats that spell ???

Dunno never needed to learn readin n riting...  gov-ment gonna take care of me...

Give me a big fat house,  no money needed,  we just need to redistribute and get them to pay for it.


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#20) On October 23, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Turfscape (< 20) wrote:

>>I recall  you being an  Obama  enabler ~  supporter ~ big time cheerleader,  so  your  late comments  are to be expected, but come on really ???  really ?<<

Yup. Like I said, you are a true modern conservative...still believing that Romney is different from Obama, and therefore deserving of your vote. I mean, after all, he has an (R) next to his name instead of a (D). That's highly important and totally different!

Oh, wait. My mistake. Both candidates want to spend beyond income levels. Both candidates believe that the Government knows better than the citizens, and should therefore be in charge of decisions over personal lives. Both candidates believe that imperialism is the path to peace. Both candidates believe that some fictional god gives them the right to rule over my life. But...somehow, through Republican magic I guess, the outcome will be different under Romney than Obama?

Go sell your fantasy somewhere else. The crazy shelves in this forum have already been fully stocked.

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