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October 30, 2009 – Comments (13) | RELATED TICKERS: ERX , BDD , UDN

 I simply don’t understand recent raise in dollar last week. If there is problem in any economy, its currency drops. We all agree that due to tremendous deficit and other economic problems, dollar should loose value.

 I am investor with heavy long positions and I love drop in dollar values. Isn’t this statement contradictory? Yes it is but that’s how I am making money. Here is my thesis why I love low dollar and how it is beneficial for everyone in US esp. stock market. 

1) Drop in dollar bringing spike in commodity prices (oil, base metals, gold etc)….All the stocks in sectors like basic materials and energy grow with decreasing dollar automatically.

2) Foreign investors still finding US market tremendously cheap. For us, Dow has reached 10,000 but for Europeans it is still at 8000. 40% raise in market has been offset by 25% drop in dollar value. Some rough estimates, you can do exact calculations.

3) Major Dow components l GE, IBM, Wal-Mart, Apple etc. reports increase in earning due favorable exchange rates their losses here in US compensates with more profits outside. Low dollar helps them to increase profits from foreign business

4) Six months back when Indian Rupee and Chinese Yuan were dirt cheap, I was sending my dollars to these countries. Recently I've started booking profits on my forex trades. Converting Rupee and Yuan back to dollars. I am sitting on heaps of dollar cash....what I should with these dollars? Obviously buy commodity and energy stocks at dips. Everyone is doing same.....emerging currencies have appreciated so rapidly in last six months, its risky to keep money outside at this point. Make sense to bring it back.

5) Cheap currency brings tremendous boost to export. Mantra of this decade "Cheap and competitive currency, Better Economy". Business in India and China love cheap Rupee and Yuan respectively. That’s how they've achieved growth in last decade. We find their goods and services cheap and that’s why we buy it. They make more profits we get cheap goods. A win-win situation for both. Think other way....What if dollar is dirt cheap. Immediately we will stop buying from India and China and we will start selling them. In summary, it has potential to bring manufacturing sectors back to US.

6) There is strong correlation between high currency values and immigration patterns. A skilled or professional worker (doctor, software developer, lawyer etc.) from developing country comes to US because they get higher salary when they convert it back to their native currency for exactly same job and same work. Millions of these people unwillingly move to places with high currency values. If dollar comes down to extent that they don’t see marginal benefit in leaving their native country. Conclusion...Low dollar has potential to increase number of jobs for Americans in America.

 In summary, I think over longer period of time we will realize added benefits of low dollar and will use it as weapon for recovery. Any authentic news from White house in this direction??? Please add in your comments.

PS.  I hold positions in ERX, BDD, TGB, ATPG.

13 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On October 30, 2009 at 5:53 PM, goldminingXpert (99.77) wrote:

We all agree that due to tremendous deficit and other economic problems, dollar should loose value.

This is wrong. Our deficit as a % of GDP is much less than the other major countries, our debt picture is not as bad as Britain and far less bad (as in 1/3rd as bad) as Japan's. USD/JPY is going to 200 (i.e. dollar will more than double again Yen) in the next few years. Sure, U$D may keep falling against minor currencies such as Canadian Dollar and Aussie Dollar, but the dollar index is majority based on Euro, Yen, and Euro, and our economy is stronger and less debt-sunk than any of those three.

Plus, you didn't mention the carry trade. The whole world is short dollars (a recent Zerohedge blog post stated that European banks are net short ~$3 TRILLION.) When they start covering, margin call city. You're going to see a volcanic rise in the dollar when all the naked dollar shorts start losing their limbs. This is precisely what happened last year when Lehman died and their was a global short squeeze in dollars. It's happening again. Dollar index will rise at least 10% and probably 15% before resuming any significant downtrend.

Also, "loose" is incorrect, it is lose. I suggest learning more about currencies before making bold incorrect statements -- try opening a demo FOREX account to begin practice-trading currencies. You'll quickly learn that you don't know much about currencies. I've been trading them three years and only recently have I been consistently profitable. Short dollar is a sucker trap of epic proportions at the moment.

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#2) On October 30, 2009 at 5:55 PM, naturalenergy (< 20) wrote:

Negative approach can be useful. Possible risk low credit rating for US!

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#3) On October 30, 2009 at 6:00 PM, portefeuille (99.74) wrote:

2) Foreign investors still finding US market tremendously cheap. For us, Dow has reached 10,000 but for Europeans it is still at 8000. 40% raise in market has been offset by 25% drop in dollar value. Some rough estimates, you can do exact calculations.

S&P 500 index in EUR.


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#4) On October 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM, davejh23 (< 20) wrote:

"...I love drop in dollar values. Isn’t this statement contradictory? Yes it is but that’s how I am making money."

Eventually the drop in the dollar will translate into real price inflation.  So, you're not really making money, are you?

"Foreign investors still finding US market tremendously cheap. For us, Dow has reached 10,000 but for Europeans it is still at 8000. 40% raise in market has been offset by 25% drop in dollar value."

What if the dollar continues to fall against the Euro?  The US market will only be attractive to foreign investors if they believe the dollar will rise against their own currency at some point.  If the dollar continues to weaken, they're not getting a real return.  Like you said, a rise in the market is offset by a drop in the value of the dollar.  Based on your belief that the dollar will continue to fall, I wouldn't be buying US stocks. 

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#5) On October 30, 2009 at 6:07 PM, kkotwani (99.07) wrote:

Thanks for spell correction GMX. I know its lose. Btw I am also making profits ...Not by short term trading but medium to long term conversions. I shorted dollars six months back now I am covering some of shorted positions. First read properly, what I've written.

Thanks for suggesting JAG. I am accumulating since it was 5. 

 Not all good from you. Particularly constantly advising to short stocks when Dow was close to 8000. It helped only to reduce my profits.

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#6) On October 30, 2009 at 6:30 PM, kaskoosek (99.68) wrote:

Unwinding of the carry is bearish for the dollar long term.

 

It means that the current movement is only technical.

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#7) On October 30, 2009 at 6:33 PM, kkotwani (99.07) wrote:

davejh23, there is no eminent risk of price inflation due to reduction in growth first. Upto some point drop in dollar will bring back growth and increase in exports. I dont know whats that point....say around 1.75 dollar/euro. I still find dollar expensive at 1.5 dollar/euro. I know its worst low for dollar...and risky to short dollars. Makes more sense to windup all the shorts.

If you are are closely watching economic indiators...you should realize most of recent growth in stock market has been fuelled due to basic materials and energy sectors.

I agree its negative...but these are the sectors which hedge best against inflation risk. In some sense we cannot deny huge money supply has to reflect in dollar lose....If major sectors in a index are increasing other sectors like financials or transportation are tail-towing.

I am trying to say recent stock market has not shooted just due to recovery but more due to dollar drop. I would say 20% due to government efforts and 80% due to dollar devaluation. Fixing fundamental economic and brining jobs back is much long term process. Gain in dollar can bring back S&P to 900 or even worse what portefeuille is showing in S&P euro chart. Based this chart S&P is still between 800 or 750.

 

 

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#8) On October 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM, goldminingXpert (99.77) wrote:

Unwinding of the carry is bearish for the dollar long term.

Ha Ha Ha. Um, no.

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#9) On October 31, 2009 at 3:19 AM, kaskoosek (99.68) wrote:

Yes it is, because there is no fundamental reason behind the dollar getting stronger. BB is still in office, the dollar is going to continue loosing money.

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#10) On October 31, 2009 at 6:27 AM, FreeMarkets (99.76) wrote:

Further weakening of the dollar will increase oil/gas prices.  With an economy based 71% on consumer spending, retailers will be hammered as will most of the rest of the economy.  Yes, exporters will do well, and that might be good for a savvy investor, but not for the huge majority of Americans.

It's time to stop looking at manipulating currency as a way to make a buck and start looking at benefiting the average American.

DISCLOSURE:  I'm currently invested in GOLD, OIL and I'm shorting US Treasury's.  Just because I'm invested to make money on a weak dollar, doesn't mean I like it.  But it is a reality I can't change right now.  END THE FED!

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#11) On October 31, 2009 at 10:27 AM, jesusfreakinco (29.89) wrote:

GMX,

Dollar carry trade just getting started...  You are way wrong on this one IMO.  I think you'll regret this position.

JFC

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#12) On October 31, 2009 at 11:55 AM, portefeuille (99.74) wrote:

just noticed that you mention holding ATPG. that is my favourite "oil&gas stock".

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#13) On October 31, 2009 at 1:37 PM, goldminingXpert (99.77) wrote:

Dollar carry trade just getting started.

Place your bets, I believe you are wrong... it's already been going on since the early part of the decade and it appears to be running out of juice.

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