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Searching for a new computer and need suggestions.

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January 27, 2014 – Comments (7) | RELATED TICKERS: AAPL , HPQ , LNVGY

It's about time to retire my 2006 Acer TravelMate 6292 purchased brand new in unopened box back in 2007 at NCIX.com . The reason is I tried to comment Mary953's blog on, "What is the best computer out there?". I've spent time in writing a comment and suddenly lost it as I tried to post it. This is not the first incident, there were few times I've spent time writing blogs and I got disappointed when blogs got lost as I've clicked POST MESSAGE or POST YOUR COMMENT. My other issuses is at times I can't post blogs or comments.

I've scaled my solutions to solving these problems to upgrading laptop , buying used laptop, or buying new laptop.

1st route, take it to an manufacturer authorized repairer to upgrade hardware and software.

Hardware and software technology has come a long way that it's not economically sound for me to go to this route, unless my laptop is at most 3 years old to extend use.  

2nd route, there's abundance of 3+ years old used laptops available and not enough of 1 - 2 years old used laptops and shopping for a used laptop is like shopping for a used car. Buying a used laptop is a game of chance if luck is on your side plus some upgrades you may have purchased a slightly used laptop that you will enjoy for many years to come at a great discount or stuck with a lemon that will frustrate you with a lighter purse/wallet

Personally I'll never buy a used laptop for many reasons.

3rd route, the expensive route is shopping for a brand new laptop in a unopened box. Buying a new laptop in the United States is like buying a new car because we're swamped with choices with over 5 origins and over 15 brands. IMHO of quantity vs. quality I'll never make a new laptop purchase from large publicly traded big box chain stores, because they mass order laptops with specific OEM components that are massed assembly produced for their own big box chain to minimize cost and maximize profit. I make my new laptop purchase at NCIX.com , Newegg.com , Tigerdirect.com , quality regional chains or any ma and pa shops that are manufacturer authorized dealer where OEM premium products are distributed directly.

There is no statistics but from word of mouth experience purchasing laptops from non-big-box-chain-stores lasts longer because big-box-chain-stores custom order from manufacturers with specific OEM components, assembly mass produced, high volume inventory laptops to minimize cost and maximize profits therfore affecting quality of laptop. Yes, it's more expensive at non-big-box-chain-stores but the manufacturer exclusive laptops, service, and quality is there. 

BELOW ARE BRANDS LINKED TO UNITED STATES SITES  

CHINA

lenovo

Can't find IBM Thinkpads? Maybe you should buy Lenovo because Lenovo acquired IBM computer division in 2005. Maybe that is why Lenovo uses recognized IBM laptop trademark name Thinkpad. 

KOREA

averatec (defunct)

lg

samsung

JAPAN

panasonic

sony

toshiba

TAIWAN

acer

asus

msi

UNITED STATES

apple

dell

eMacines

eMacines is subsidiary of Acer since 2007

gateway 

Gateway is subsidiary of Acer since 2007, Gateway had a role in the 1997 James Bond film, "Tomorrow Never Dies".

hp

microsoft

7 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On January 27, 2014 at 11:23 AM, ryanalexanderson (< 20) wrote:

How important is it to get a laptop vs. a desktop?

Just saying that if you want real quality, an incredible learning experience, and way more power/screen real estate for the dough, might want to consider building your own desktop. It's an amazing experience, if you don't really know how a computer works. And then you can replace individual parts easily if needed.

Of course, if you're hauling it around all the time or space is limited, the point is moot.

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#2) On January 27, 2014 at 9:07 PM, valunvesthere (< 20) wrote:

ryanalexanderson

No argument about the advantages of desktops.

In our household we have a custom built desktop purchased and assembled at NCIX.com on January 2013. It has various above average components from Asus, Corsair, Samsung, and etc.

My next upgrade after new laptop purchase is multi-monitors setup for household desktop. At presnt I really need a laptop to haul around.

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#3) On January 27, 2014 at 9:16 PM, ryanalexanderson (< 20) wrote:

Ah, so I'm preaching to the converted. 

Just building one myself at the moment, so it's top of mind. Fascinated by all the cooling options, and monitors just keep getting bigger and awesomer. I've found that once you go with two monitors, you can never go back!

No advice on laptops, though, I'm afraid. Best of luck! 

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#4) On January 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Mary953 (78.91) wrote:

Hi Mary,

 I recently bought an ASUS laptop last spring.  I highly recommend this for the quality / cost.  I haven't had any issues after 1 year of use.  

 I recommend getting 8 gigs of memory.  Get an i7 processor (quad).  It would be nice if you got an HD resolution screen, but not essential.  I recommend getting a 14" rather than 15" screen, it makes the laptop far lighter and more portable.  I recommend getting a 1 TB hard drive.  It is hard to get all of these together and a good price.  You should look on Newegg and order from them - much cheaper than other sources.  I notice their prices do change from week to week with sales.  

Some examples I consider good: 

  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231378

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231378

I think you should expect to spend between $400-750 for a good Windows laptop that will stay useful for 5 years.  Below that price, you will get an i3 or i5 processor or less memory - and find you laptop is too slow within 2 years.  Just my two cents.

 Do you have a Staples, Office Depot nearby?  If you do, try going to those places with your list of characteristics above and try some of their laptops.  You might not like keyboards on some or screen size on others.  When we shopped we tried several this way.  I was interested in the Lenovo Yoga, but at the time I found the 13.3" screen too small and flimsy feeling.  Plus the hard drive is relatively small for holding much data.  

 -Rof 

 This is the comment I got from Rofgile.  I would go for more memory because I would be looking for something that I could use for years and doubt that 8 could do it for me, but Rof's comments seemed to be on target for what you are seeking.  I will keep an eye on your comments as well as those on my computer post.  Good Luck!

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#5) On January 29, 2014 at 9:53 PM, valunvesthere (< 20) wrote:

ryanalexanderson

From what I was told when we were customizing our household desktop at NCIX.com last year.

For desktop cooling systems it all depends on location, liquid cooling plus carefully placed electronic fans (vaccuuming cool air in and blowing hot air out of the desktop tower) is good investment if the user is located in consistant desert temperatures. Users can get away with only carefully placed electronic fans (vaccuuming cool air in and blowing hot air out of the desktop tower) if the location is consistantly cold or cool.

Thanks for commenting

Mary953

1) l'm looking into your suggested laptop specifications.

I recommend getting 8 gigs of memory. Get an i7 processor (quad). It would be nice if you got an HD resolution screen, but not essential. I recommend getting a 14" rather than 15" screen, it makes the laptop far lighter and more portable. I recommend getting a 1 TB hard drive. It is hard to get all of these together and a good price. You should look on Newegg and order from them - much cheaper than other sources. I notice their prices do change from week to week with sales.

2) ASUS R500A-FS71-CB has reasonable to good specifications at a good price. I'm leary that it's refurbished, not that it's not good it's just what kind of refurbishing?

3) Yes, I live by Staples, Office Depot, and whole slew of other publicly traded big box chain retailers.

There is no statistics but from word of mouth experience purchasing laptops from non-big-box-chain-stores lasts longer because big-box-chain-stores custom order from manufacturers with specific OEM components, assembly mass produced, high volume inventory laptops to minimize cost and maximize profits therfore affecting quality of laptop. Yes, it's more expensive at non-big-box-chain-stores but the manufacturer exclusive laptops, service, and quality is there.

Thanks for commenting

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#6) On February 02, 2014 at 10:55 PM, ryanalexanderson (< 20) wrote:

Thanks for the tip. 

My main goal is to build the quietest computer possible, so I am thinking of liquid cooling. But I will probably try a cheap fan system first. Thanks again for the advice, and good luck to us both! 

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#7) On February 03, 2014 at 12:49 AM, jiltin (29.74) wrote:

Put your old computer either at craigslist or ebay and get a new laptop. 

Desktops are outdated, and history.

I would recommend either Lenova or dell with i7 processor (quad). 

BTW, I am hand core IT development side and my needs are high performance and heavy usage.  My personal preference is with dell.

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