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February 24, 2008 – Comments (31) | RELATED TICKERS: GLD

Deep thoughts by abitarecatania:

I have car insurance, health insurance and life insurance. I have not used any of them in 20 years. I have them in case of a random accident, to protect my wealth / health.

The CIA trainee Osama Bin Laden attacked the US. The US has spent an estimated $6 trillion trying to catch / kill him. 

Would Bin Laden or follower nuke the US if able? Yes, I think they would.  The US is always just a nuclear cricket attack away from a systemic / dollar collapse

If there is a break down or "if the division of labor shrinks or collapses because of a banking failure -- no digital money", I am still young enough to work as a labor: digging ditches, fighting evil (abitare in Army of Darkness), farming, smuggling moonshine like the Dukes of Hazard  (my systemic break down theme song) etc....

In 15 years, I will likely be too old to compete in a labor pool full of younger people with more energy and enthusiasm....

GaryNorth.com, whose website I pay for and read (FYI- Gary North is a Christian Economist) has a list of items “If you live in a safe place, stock up on”:

1. A generator. (expensive, Gasoline, storage, risky & noisy...targets of thieves; maintenance etc.)

2. Water Filters/Purifiers/ Chlorox for purification of water.

3. Portable Toilet and toilet paper.

4. Seasoned Firewood. Firewood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried enough, for burning.

5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY and all!)

6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.

7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.

8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.

9. Honey/Syrups/white & brown sugars

10. Rice - Beans - Wheat - Bread

11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking/ without it food burns, etc.,)

12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (will become suddenly scarce )

13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Fill up any size. Small, many, PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade for drinking.

16. Propane Cylinders and grills (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.

17. Survival Guide Book.

18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)

19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/Formula, Ointments/Aspirin, Vaseline, etc. First Aid items.

20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)

21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)

22. Vitamins

23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous

without this item)

24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.

25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)

26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, hones, and oil)

27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (good for Cooking and Bartering)

28. Gasoline Containers (closed, Plastic & Metal) Store safely remote from living quarters.

29. Heavy plastic Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).

30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels, Plastic Baggies

31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)

32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid)

33. Clothes pins/line/hangers

34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit

35. Tuna Fish (in oil)

36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)

37. First aid kits

38. Batteries (all sizes...buy longest dated expiration Dates)

39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies

40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)

41. Flour, yeast & ....salt. One can't survive without salt.

42. Matches. ("Strike Anywhere"/ Boxed, wooden/ matches will go first. Keep in Baggies.

43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators

44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)

45. Workboots, belts, slickers, Levis & durable shirts, gloves, work shoes

46. Flashlights/lightsticks & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns

47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience;

Historic Times)

48. Garbage cans, wheeled/Plastic . Great for storage of water, and transporting same.

49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, condoms, etc

50. Cookware (light, sturdy, teflon, efficient)

51. Fishing supplies/tools

52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams/ointments.

53. Duct Tape

54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes

55. Candles

56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)

57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags

58. Garden tools & supplies

59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies

60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.

61. Bleach ( plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% Sodium Hypochlorite..Chlorox)

62. Canning supplies, (Jars w/lids)

63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel

64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc

65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats

66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)

67. Books/Board Games/Cards & Dice

68. D-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer

69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & Cockroach magnets

70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)

71. Baby wipes, powder/ oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)

72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.

73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)

74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)

75. Soy sauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soup base

76. Spare reading glasses/binoculars.

77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)

78. "Survival-in-a-Can", C-rations, MRE's

79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens/gloves

80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog

81. Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)/ 4X8' Plywood w/nails/hammer

82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky

83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts

84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)

85. Lumber (any and all types)

86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)

87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's

88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.

89. Lantern Hangers

90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts

91. Teas

92. Coffee

93. Cigarettes

94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)

95. Paraffin wax

96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.

97. Chewing gum/candies

98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)

99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs, mufflers

100. Chickens, Goats/ edible animals, traps

31 Comments – Post Your Own

#1) On February 24, 2008 at 7:32 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

HEY ABA, How are you doing? You forgot to mention what is most close to my heart. Books. How about the army survival guide. Healing with food. 1001 uses for vinager and lemons. Bleach for cleaning mold. The glimmers are out there and it will be hard but we are gaining a very large candle. Remember the title of some  book. As a man thinkest (so shall it be.)  Thoughts and words are very  powerful and yours  have helped me find my way. Thank you. This  to shall pass. As I told my son growing up that all good things must come to an end so we can have more good ones so shall the bad ones. Remember what happens after all of the war is peace.I just hate having to go through this to get to the peace. As my grandmother said every cloud has a silver lining. The silver lining is going to come out soon. Have faith that we can learn from this and thank you again for reminding me of my basic roots. Never a borrower or a lender be. LQ

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#2) On February 24, 2008 at 7:51 PM, abitare (33.80) wrote:

lq,

Good call. Ultimately, there will be peace, but there were +20 million dead after WWII and +20 million dead after Mao. 

Hopefully, like my health insurance, the items on the list will not be needed.

:) 

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#3) On February 24, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Bupp (28.40) wrote:

How about a solar water heater bag.  Everyone loves hot showers.

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#4) On February 24, 2008 at 8:20 PM, abitare (33.80) wrote:

good call.

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#5) On February 24, 2008 at 9:30 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Hey aba who is the guy in gov that left because he good more good?

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#6) On February 24, 2008 at 9:33 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Hey aba who is the guy in gov that left because he could do more good with who?

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#7) On February 24, 2008 at 9:45 PM, abitare (33.80) wrote:

David Walker - I posted on him 19 Feb 08 

If you missed our overtime briefing on Friday, David Walker resigned from his position as U.S. comptroller general.

“As comptroller general of the United States,” says David Walker, the federal government’s top accountant, “there are real limitations on what I can do and say in connection with key public policy issues, especially issues that directly relate to GAO’s client -- the Congress.”

Walker left his government post to lead the newly founded Peter G. Peterson Foundation. As the head of the Peterson Foundation, Walker will oversee the billion-dollar endowment of Pete Peterson -- former commerce secretary, the founder of the Blackstone Group and the Concord Coalition and legendary advocate for government fiscal responsibility. Chief among Walker’s duties at the Peterson Foundation will be the funding and advocating of projects that will enhance public awareness of fiscal imbalance, government deficits and nuclear proliferation.

We’re hoping that I.O.U.S.A., in which Walker plays a distinct and prominent role, will be one of those projects. We’ll keep you updated either way. For the full story, check out the “overtime briefing” we sent on Friday.

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#8) On February 24, 2008 at 9:53 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

DIDN'T THE PRECHER SAY THAT IN 1917 IS WHEN THE BANKS WERE FORMED BY CAUSING PANIC AND THEY CAME IN AND SAVED THE DAY? IS THIS GROUP THE ONES WHO ARE FROM ENGLAND Blackstone Group and the Concord Coalition,Peterson Foundation WHO OUTED OUR GUYS JUST LIKE IT WAS DONE WHEN WE STARTED THE FED? IS THIS THE BANKERS USING US AGAIN LIKE IN THE 1900'S THE VERY ONES WHO CAUSED THIS? IS HISTORY REPEATING ITS SELF AND MAKING MONEY ON THE VOLALITY OF THE PUTS AND ARE THE EXCHANGES THEM SELVES INVOLVED?

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#9) On February 24, 2008 at 10:06 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

film, I.O.U.S.A.,
featuring Mr. Walker among other luminaries, premiered at the Sundance Film Festival on January 19, 2008.

Despite the “very difficult” nature of Walker’s decision, he has chosen to leave his post at the GAO to become the president and CEO of the newly founded Peter G. Peterson Foundation. He made the announcement to Congress today.

“While I love both my job as comptroller general and the GAO,” said Walker, “I love my country more. And I believe that leading this foundation represents a unique opportunity and will be good for my country. My new position will provide me with the ability and resources to more aggressively address a range of current and emerging challenges facing our country, including advocating specific policy solutions and courses of action.”

As the head of the Peterson Foundation, Walker will oversee the billion-dollar endowment of Pete Peterson – former Commerce Secretary, the founder of the Blackstone group, The Concord Coalition, and legendary advocate for government fiscal responsibility. Chief among Walker’s duties at the Peterson Foundation will be the funding and advocating of projects that will enhance public awareness of fiscal imbalance, government deficits, and nuclear proliferation.

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#10) On February 24, 2008 at 10:11 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

including advocating specific policy solutions and courses of action.”

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#11) On February 24, 2008 at 10:20 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

AND NOW CASTRO STEPS DOWN WHY NOW???????????????? jUST WHEN THIS MESS HITS THE FAN??  MORE BANKERS AT WORK???????

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#12) On February 25, 2008 at 12:07 AM, abitare (33.80) wrote:

lq, good find. 

On Cuba, Castro is old, passing the control to his brother is not a big change.

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#13) On February 25, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Bupp (28.40) wrote:

I love how crazy you are abitarecatania.  We need people who see conspiracies in everything because even when they are wrong ten times, the one time they are right more than makes up for it.

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#14) On February 25, 2008 at 4:34 AM, abitare (33.80) wrote:

rwilso01,

Thanks for the reply. Welcome to CAPS.

I am reminded of Jim Cramer 

My job is not merely to entertain you but to educate you as well 

Any conspiracy I believe in is supported by facts, circumstances or credible evidence. Belief in an Almighty and heaven etc... will be settle at a later date (much, much later date - I hope). 

We need people who see conspiracies in everything because even when they are wrong ten times, the one time they are right more than makes up for it.

If you are refering to me, even a newbie like you can look at my stats: 1444 picks 54% accuracy. I had 4100 points until Helicopter Ben paniced with another intervention 1/23/08. 4100pts had put me in the top 20 out of 45k people in points in just six months. Now go find a municipal bond to underperform Guru, or I will taunt you a second time.

And I am
Whatever you say I am
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am? 

The Way I am 

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#15) On February 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

luminaries and mansons subtitute the words for                  Bankers                    and they fund who?  the world   just  follow the money it allways works. 

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#16) On February 25, 2008 at 9:54 AM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

What was the oil (Energy?)  in 1920 that went where?    now who has it? who has the tallest building?  Dubi???  Follow the money. It is now comming back to amercia in the form of what? Energy? Natural Gas, Wind,  solar,  eletric ,ethnol, and where is the money comming from ? the gov. in subities.
This is what I am thinking and I wonder if I am
wrong. We are just like England now. We have a central bank which is called the
Fed.Which is a private group of banks? Our President is like the Queen. Congress is the CEO'S AND CFO'S. The IRS
and social security is the money taker. "The U.S. Federal Reserve announced
Friday it will have an auction." So that means the Federal Reserve is the Loan
Officer. We the people are the share holders in a 2 tier system where the gov.
gets 2 votes to our 1/2. Yep I got it now. Is this why Charlie Gasperino
can't get any transparency? Where does the sec and the attorney general fit into
all of this?ECH...............The biggest rail road land grab in history and
more money for bankers.The super highway from canada to mexico. Funded by bonds and they are funded by Banks.

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#17) On February 25, 2008 at 9:58 AM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Buy Bonds because they will take off.                                           If you are refering to me, even a newbie like you can look at my stats: 1444 picks 54% accuracy. I had 4100 points until Helicopter Ben paniced with another intervention 1/23/08. 4100pts had put me in the top 20 out of 45k people in points in just six months. Now go find a municipal bond to underperform Guru, or I will taunt you a second time. Paniced  or  very well  planed.?

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#18) On February 25, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Bupp (28.40) wrote:

Abita,

I was not referring to your stock picks but rather that conspiracy theorists, or rather people who disagree with the status quo/common sense are often wrong but when they turn out to be right it is a big deal.

 I mean people were thought to be crazy when they said the world is round.  And people actually are crazy when they talk about Elvis being alive.  But you need the people like that around digging into things and figuring what is legit and what is not otherwise we just follow what we are told like a bunch of lemmings not questioning anything.

 I for one do not feel like jumping off a cliff and landing on a pile of rocks next to the ocean.

Also if we get nuked you need to have a bunch of pet rats because they can be milked and as they are smaller animals they won't absorb the same radiation as cows.  I believe each rat is good for 0.5oz-1oz of milk per day.  So add non-lethal mouse traps to your list.

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#19) On February 25, 2008 at 2:34 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

That is why I am asking questions. My stock picks just help me in a way to see the bigger picture. There is so much I don't understand and very few people talk about it. There is so much information out there and I am just trying to sort it out. That is why I thank you for pointing different points of view and some times I hear or remember different things and my mind makes great leaps in trying to make sence of it all.Weather it is true or not I don't know I am just trying to figure it out to where it makes sence to me. Thank you again.

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#20) On February 25, 2008 at 4:37 PM, camistocks (< 20) wrote:

You forgot to add something: the Bible!

Your list sounds more like a Mad Max survival thing.

But again, the Bible is missing!

I don't remember reading Jesus Christ walking around heavily armed. In fact his main message was: if someone hits you on one cheek, you should offer him the other too.

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#21) On February 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

True and when is the only time he lost his temper? With the money lenders. IE Bankers. Turn the other cheek to me is like saying quell my own anger to strike back. But that is just me and my thoughts.

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#22) On February 25, 2008 at 7:22 PM, abitare (33.80) wrote:

rwilso01,

Thanks for the reply. Welcome to CAPS.

I am reminded of Jim Cramer 

My job is not merely to entertain you but to educate you as well 

Any conspiracy I believe in is supported by facts, circumstances or credible evidence. Belief in an Almighty and heaven etc... will be settle at a later date (much, much later date - I hope). 

We need people who see conspiracies in everything because even when they are wrong ten times, the one time they are right more than makes up for it.

If you are refering to me, even a newbie like you can look at my stats: 1444 picks 54% accuracy. I had 4100 points until Helicopter Ben paniced with another intervention 1/23/08. 4100pts had put me in the top 20 out of 45k people in points in just six months. Now go find a municipal bond to underperform Guru, or I will taunt you a second time.

And I am
Whatever you say I am
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am? 

The Way I am 

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#23) On February 25, 2008 at 8:34 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Nader just steped in as an independent and the talk on the street is if they can't find any private companies to take over the sub prime then maybe the fed needs to take over like they did during the depression. Then low and behold the pressure is off for awhile because mbi and ambc found funding and they are on probation and the rating can change at any time. Hum........following the money.

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#24) On February 25, 2008 at 11:04 PM, abitare (33.80) wrote:

camistock,

67. Books, (a Bible is a book) :)

In Exodus 15:3, the Bible tells us the Lord is a man of war.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"The LORD is a warrior; The LORD is His name.

King James Bible
The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name

In Numbers 31, the Lord tells Moses to kill all the Midianites, sparing only the virgins.

In Deuteronomy 13:6-16, the Lord instructs Israel to kill anyone who worships a different god or who worships the Lord differently.

In Mark 7:9, Jesus is critical of the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as prescribed by Old Testament law.

lq, 

I like Nader in a lot of ways. He is defianately no worse then some of the other suspects.

 

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#25) On February 25, 2008 at 11:19 PM, abitare (33.80) wrote:

rwilso01,

Funny, very funny...for you, in Togo and Asia rat is whats for dinner. 

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#26) On February 26, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Bupp (28.40) wrote:

I actually grabbed that tip off of a documentary on how to survive nuclear holocaust.  They were seriously recommending milking rats.

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#27) On February 26, 2008 at 3:07 PM, bridgeboy0 (30.85) wrote:

"4100pts had put me in the top 20 out of 45k people in points in just six months."

I'm just curious, what was your highest player rating?

Bridgeboy

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#28) On February 26, 2008 at 6:30 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Really on nader?  Look back in history and what election (I forget) but it is much like today and look who got back in the early 1900-1930. by sending in a 3rd party and now (rumers) are Rromney might come back in. Hummmm.............and after the news on the super highway came out.Bush Uninterested In Transportation Funding Hike -Governors
Nasdaq Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:00 PM PST
WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- President George W. Bush told the nation's state governors Monday he's not interested in spending more on highways and bridges to boost the economy, governors attending the meeting said. Hum................. I still trying to follow the money. Your right but who chosed the books?  Who claims to be the rock. But that is just another ball of wax.

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#29) On February 26, 2008 at 11:05 PM, abitare (33.80) wrote:

rw,

FYI - I read a book about an Austrailian in a Thai prision, they had cock roach farms in order to get protien for their diet. They would feed the roaches rice, then mash the roachs to make a protien paste.

bb,

I broke 99%, top three hundred and 1400 points around my first month. I did not realize you had to wait for 5 points in CAPS to count as accuracy. I destroyed my accuracy over trading outside of 5pts. I have been trying to bring up the accuracy at the expense of my points lately. I like pointssss..... accuracy is easy. Plenty of Fools underperforming Ultra shorts or muni bonds in order to climb accuracy. I like points more.    

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#30) On February 26, 2008 at 11:11 PM, abitare (33.80) wrote:

lq,

Nader is honest. Which moves him ahead of the other three. I like Ron Paul. I will write RP in even if he does not get the nomination.

Government spending is the problem. More government spending is not going to help. The US is way overextended. I am affraid it will end in a crisis. Eventually, the dollar may loose it's status as a reserve currency and things will change here in the US significantly. 

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#31) On February 27, 2008 at 7:36 PM, lquadland10 (< 20) wrote:

Yes I agree completly. Did you know that is you adjusted for inflation Min, wage should be 31.00 an hour? Now a new contender.

The New Deal's digital version is at http://unity2008.org/Book.html - I will not take your's or my time to speak of things that are not fair or just. The book addresses how to fix this. 

One can read the book which costs nothing for the digital version, and be able to set expections for the leadership of our nation, or just seek entertainment from talking heads on TV and then complain!                                                                         I think that our central bank and gov. are doing this to get the supperhighway through. Tank the eccomony and we will have to give up ourcountry to survive.Just likein the 1900 in my humble opion/.Look at Mexico and the buildingboom going on and the realestate wales are from our country?in my humble opion. What do you think?

                          

 

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