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August 29, 2010 – Comments (26)

This frightens me.

http://tiny.cc/iphxu and http://tiny.cc/8i5p0

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#1) On August 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Varchild2008 (85.27) wrote:

I didn't know that:

Albert Pujols is considered White....

or that Martin Luther King jr's  Niece  Aveda King is also White..

Or that Johnathon Huntsman and his family are all White.

Or that Gospel Singer they had is a White Woman....

Or that first medal awarded was to a White Man that spoke about standing near the Reflecting Pond when Martin Luther King Jr. spoke.

Or the Native American that spoke was a White Man...

I mean wow... New York Times nailed it.....  If they say all of these people are White..... Then wow I guess they are all white.

I mean wow....  I am totally convinced by the sheer wisdom that is New York Times.....    I never understood what was going on until reading NYT..... Thank you for sharing this!!!

P.S.

I take it George Soros doesn't scare you? 

Or Moveon.org   that is largely funded by George Soros does not scare you?

Or  Bill Gates &  Warren Buffet ..... They don't scare you?

Doesn't scare you that John Kerry's  Heniz Foundation donates money to Liberal causes???  That family is super rich.

So let me get this straight.....  If you are a LIBERAL LEFTY then it is perfectly ok if RICH PEOPLE help support one of your PACs or Causes or Organizations....

If you are a CONSERVATIVE.....  Well then somehow it is a bad thing if a RICH PERSON funds your organization?

Uhm?     The point of Glenn Beck's rally yesterday was that we need to treat eachother as HUMAN BEINGS.... AS AMERICANS....

We should not besmirch.....insult.....spew HATE..... On someone for his/her wealth.... for his/her religious beliefs or lack of.....for his/her race..... for his/her gender...

So these journalist opinion writers breathlessly counting how many Hispanics... or Blacks... or Whites.... happen to be at a certain rally... and then saying that the rally is completely discredited because it didn't reach some Diversity Thresh-hold says more about the Journalist than it does about the Organization, Rally, or Members that attended.

This rally was open arms for anyone of any race, ethnicity, gender, or religious faith to join....  Anyone....  Instead of AL Sharpton joining... he instead sticks with his own rally..

And if a journalist wants to point out lack of diversity issues why won't they review how few WHITE PEOPLE were at Al Sharpton's rally?   Where is the standard here? 

Or is it that a Black Man/woman is worth that of 2 or 3 White Man/Woman in New York Times's View?  Just curious as to why people constantly value 1 race as so important as to completely discredit anything anyone else does if they do not happen to have enough of the cherished 1 race attending.

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#2) On August 29, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Varchild2008 (85.27) wrote:

One more thing.

It is not the CONSERVATIVE ideological belief system at fault for not having enough of a certain race of Americans attending our rallies.

It is the fault that inner city public schools simply do not teach students anything about the Liberal Ideologically approved lessons that are forced upon students by the Teacher's Union.

If you have school systems teaching HISTORY/ Science / English / and so on as it fits in with the Liberal Ideology then chances are you will have children that predominately grow up believing in liberal ideas... as they as all they know.

Let's see what happens when we get rid of the Teacher's Union and allow individual teachers to share Conservative Viewpoints and to present 1st Hand Historical Documents as part of History Class...

Liberalism does not show 1st hand historical documents... Or if they do they cut it up in tiny pieces... Showing only 1 verse of America the Beautiful....  Or taking out "GOD" out of the Pledge of Allegiance.....

So many Public School Systems eliminate anything that goes against the Liberal Belief system so that there is NO TEACHING of any alternatives....

And then we get besmirched at if we so happen to not have that many inner city Public School Taught Americans?  Cause that is exactly what is going on.... Try counting the SUBURBAN white people at Glenn Beck's rally versus Inner City White People...

You will find this has much to do with nothing....  Not about RACE... Not about WEALTH.... Not about anything other than

SUBURBS  versus  INNER CITIES...  And the need to attract RICH people to fund an organization is almost a universal need no matter what kind of Rally you are putting on.  Especially when it costs nearly $4 million to put together.

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#3) On August 29, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Varchild2008 (85.27) wrote:

P.S.   It is not my fault that HERBERT HOOVER  single handidly abandoned African Americans from the Republican Party through his "Southern Strategy."

Calvin Coolidge attracted many many many African American leaders to the Republican party as he was an outspoken advocate for equal rights, civil rights.  He was widely respected.

Herbert Hoover exercises a Southern Strategy of attracting racist Southern Liberals to vote for him,......turning off African American leaders away from the Republican Party.

Herbert Hoover's damage to the Republican Party image in the African American Community is one that has gone on for 70+ years and counting.

To reverse this will take another 70 years.  But, eventually something has got to give and African Americans will finally have a wake up call that individualism is not as bad as their public school system has been saying it is.

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#4) On August 29, 2010 at 7:42 PM, xuincherguixe (< 20) wrote:

I think I would be more frightened if not for the fact that it doesn't really matter where the money is coming from. The tea party is scary in any way you look at it. Scary and hilarious.

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#5) On August 29, 2010 at 7:47 PM, RonChapmanJr (94.88) wrote:

For those of you afraid of the Tea Party movement, you potentially have many dark days ahead of you...

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#6) On August 29, 2010 at 7:48 PM, blesto (32.07) wrote:

I'm afraid it's worse than many of you may think. The more division that can be made between Americans, the easier it will be to make us fall together.

United We Stand, Divided We Fall.

Vote. And vote your conscience.

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#7) On August 29, 2010 at 7:52 PM, xuincherguixe (< 20) wrote:

You make it sound like they aren't already.

I wonder if there's a way to short living conditions?

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#8) On August 29, 2010 at 8:09 PM, G8BigBoom (68.30) wrote:

The Tea Party is big in peoples heads. The elections they have won are a very, very small percentage and nothing to fear. More parties is better but either way in a few years they will resemble the green party. "Who?"

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#9) On August 29, 2010 at 8:17 PM, soycapital (< 20) wrote:

For those of you afraid of the Tea Party movement, you potentially have many dark days ahead of you...

Anyone "scared" by the tea party must examine their own sanity. There is nothing here to be upset about folks!

The US govt. in it's present form and size? that is scary!!

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#10) On August 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM, guiron (20.31) wrote:

The Tea Party is the propaganda wing of the Republican Party. Aside from the funding by Murdoch and Koch, it was founded in part by Dick Armey, who claims no responsibility, oddly enough - they all say it's an organic movement and has no leadership. This is convenient, because they can use them to say the most outrageous things- to plant false information in the minds of the voters and to stir up race and class resentment, and at the same time disclaim any knowledge or culpability. Useful idiots, like the Soviets used to say.

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#11) On August 29, 2010 at 9:26 PM, guiron (20.31) wrote:

And, when you think about it, any movement whose origin story involves a reporter who used to be a futures trader on the floor of the CBOE, in the midst of a downturn talking about how we need a revolution. Think about it. The guy had the gall to talk about the "losers" who made bad choices and were paying for it, nevermind the millions of people who got caught up in it by no fault of their own, as if everyone could be a futures trader and become a whiny millionare like Rick Santelli.

Is he really the Paul Revere of the Tea Party? Can't think of a worse choice ...

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#12) On August 29, 2010 at 9:27 PM, guiron (20.31) wrote:

Here's what I meant to post for that first sentence:

And, when you think about it, any movement whose origin story involves a reporter who used to be a futures trader on the floor of the CBOE, in the midst of a downturn talking about how we need a revolution, is a movement that is anything but grassroots or organic.

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#13) On August 29, 2010 at 9:28 PM, soycapital (< 20) wrote:

The Tea Party is the propaganda wing of the Republican Party. Aside from the funding by Murdoch and Koch, it was founded in part by Dick Armey, who claims no responsibility, oddly enough - they all say it's an organic movement and has no leadership. This is convenient, because they can use them to say the most outrageous things- to plant false information in the minds of the voters and to stir up race and class resentment, and at the same time disclaim any knowledge or culpability. Useful idiots, like the Soviets used to say.

Dream on...........if it helps!

So you like the path America is on?

Smell the green sprouts and the roses, they stink! You think big govt. is the answer? Think again brother.

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#14) On August 29, 2010 at 9:58 PM, fmahnke (91.86) wrote:

I donlt get it.  You seem like a smart person, with knowledge of markets the economy etc.  How can any reasonable person not be more afraid by the policies, power-grabbing and demonizing procaticed by the current democratic political coalition,

I am not on the right, but can support republicans for the first time in my life under the philosphy that it really can;t be much worse than our the current path

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#15) On August 29, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Tastylunch (29.29) wrote:

not really surprising to me Frans. I figured the Cato institute guys were likely involved.

There isn't a single America political movement I've seen that gets constant national airtime that doesn't have some shadowy big money behind it running the show. It doesn't matter which political persuasion you look at.

e.g.I'm not sure why people thought Obama would really change much, no one raises that kind of money without owing some really big favors. I don't know the entire list of who bankrolled Obama besides the big banks, but I'm sure he owes a lot of favors to some people his supporters likely don't like.

The Tea party is no different.

I'm not sure what the Tea Party really stands for, but I don't think it as libertarian as most of its' early adopters wish it to be. It seems more neocon-ish/corporatist than  libertarians typically are.A lot of their rhetoric is very vague. Stuff like "take back America", "restore honor" things like that. What does that even mean?

Their angle seems to be more and more purely about business interests instead of social aspects of libertarianism. They seem more "republican" and less "libertarian" everyday. For whatever that's worth

looks like a classic case of co-opt and control to me by the existing power base of the conservative movement.

As long as American politics is "pay to play" as one lobbyist put it to me, the guys who pay the most get to play the most

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#16) On August 30, 2010 at 6:08 AM, NOTvuffett (< 20) wrote:

This is really offensive, and pretty damn stupid.

The wife of a salesman that calls on me organized a tea party rally. Yeah, I guess those "big money guys" found a housewife to do their evil bidding, lol.

It is even more amazing to me that the critics of the tea party movement don't know what it is about but they know that they are against it. 

 

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#17) On August 30, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Gemini846 (60.44) wrote:

There are a lot of Neo Cons that would like Tea Party supporters to think they are libertarians. (Cough. Sara Palin). Look at the voting records.

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#18) On August 30, 2010 at 9:22 AM, catoismymotor (33.56) wrote:

As a Libertarian I love seeing the Tea Party turn against the establishment Republicans. It's like seeing a dad get hit in the nuts with a bat wielded by his rowdy kids. If the parent had been better at his job this would not be happening. But at the end of the day the dad and the kids will still team up against the Democrats come November.

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#19) On August 30, 2010 at 10:38 AM, eldemonio (98.86) wrote:

Varkid,

These are both Op-Ed pieces.

Tasty,

You're right.

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#20) On August 30, 2010 at 3:30 PM, rofgile (99.30) wrote:

I think the Tea party is great - it weakens the conservative movement by splitting the republican party.  Further, it puts the craziest, least informed, and most easy to discredit spokesmen at the fore-front (Glenn Becks, Michelle Bachman).  

So, what it does is raise up candidates who will lose in general elections, drives away independent votes (who like moderates). And splits up the republicans.  Win-win-win (for a liberal).

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Seriously though, it seems like the idea that the Tea party is financed by billionaires rather than starting "from the people" threatens the self-image of some of its members...

 -Rof 

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#21) On August 30, 2010 at 4:23 PM, leohaas (33.21) wrote:

Interesting. But what does this have to do with investing?

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#22) On September 01, 2010 at 6:40 PM, moerequity (< 20) wrote:

 You have missed out on what the tea party is and that it has already influenced the democratic primaries.

 What do all of you glenn beck bashers and the 8/28 rally have against Faith, Hope and Charity. God bless to all of you.

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#23) On September 01, 2010 at 6:51 PM, sevenofseven (< 20) wrote:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the several tea party rallies that have been held up here in northern Michigan have been bankrolled by billionaires & corporate america.  The tea party movement is not a "Political Party".  It is a group of people who want to return the Country back to its' Constitutional roots, which I agree will be next to impossible, but worth a try.

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#24) On September 03, 2010 at 12:34 PM, lemoneater (79.19) wrote:

@ #23 I agree with you. You might find this link interesting http://www.constantconservative.com/2009/health-care-tea-party-sioux-falls-report. I don't think big money made an appearence at this particular meeting. I trust the writer because I know him personally.

fransgeraedts, what interests me most about this blog is how a European cares to look into American politics. Even though we don't agree, I still feel flattered. I'm proud of the variety of political beliefs we have. (You mentioned in another blog how you plan to come to the U.S. to study and wondered where to live.)

As a rule, the Southern and Western U.S will be politically more conservative and more in favor of smaller government. I hope you will have the opportunity to travel--not just to see some gorgeous scenery, but also to meet some people your friends back home won't believe you've met.) I see the tea party movement as a natural result of some Americans feeling underepresented. Many are tired of politics being a spectator sport and are wanting to participate more actively.

 

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#25) On September 05, 2010 at 4:27 AM, fransgeraedts (99.92) wrote:

Dear Lemoneater,

 

the US is "the leader of the West". There is deep truth in that. That means among other things that the quality of american politics has a great impact on the development of the world as a whole.

Many (groups of) people are underrepresented by the american political system. A move in the direction of a voting system that would allow more then two parties would help.

fransgeraedts

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